Lesson 12: Panchaanga.

[gaonkarswapnil]

Dear Vivek ji

I understood the 1st and 2nd point 3rd is yet to be covered

As far i have understood this means that the interaction of sun moon is dependant on married life aspect (Little confused here)

And thiti lord placement for example if it is in labha bhava then this means spouse will have complain about gains of native in general

Regards

Swapnil

[vivekvshetty]

Namaskaar Raman ji,
will post an detailed answer to this soon. We know this is important.
RishiRahul and vivek.

Gandaanta Dosha.
Gandaanta means an evil junction.

Gandaanta is the junction of the Water (Jala Raashi) and fire (Agni Raashis).
The two Tatvas – Water and Fire are inimical to each other and hence births during this period suffer from a Tatva Dosha.
This not only applies to Chandra but also to Lagna if it so placed.

There are three such junctions.
The Junction of Karka and Simha. The last Pada of Aashlesha and first pada of Makhaa.

The junction of Vrischika and Dhanu. The last Pada of Jyestha and the first pada of Moola.

The Junction of Meena and Mesha . The Last Pada of Revati and the first Pada of Ashwini.

Dear Vivek ji,
Some how i have got stuck to this topic.I am still not able to digest or shud i say grasp it fully.I am finding some more or crucial information about this dosha missing...dont know what but i feel something more about this topic need to understood to understand this dosha...

Some people also call this Gand Moola Dosha..Y only moola Nakshatra is considered to give name to this dosha..

My understanding says since mula is last part of most inmical junction of raashis i.e. scorio and  Saggi. thus its considered for naming purpose but i dont find this strong enough reason for naming...

i will reply to your previously asked questions in somtime..

Please guide..
Regards,
Raman

[vivekvshetty]

The Three Sandhis which suffer from gandaantar Dosha are like an Abyss. It can be crossed over by Jumping like a Lion (Simha) or Like a horse (Dhanus and also Ashwini Nakshatra). Very often this is dangerous as there is a danger of a fall. Only the Strong survive.

The Gandaanta of Jyestha and moola are given special treatment by Jyotish classics. Maharishi Paraashara has three chapters detailing the results of such birth and also the remedial measures to be done in case of such birth.

Some more effects are given below:
Jyestha-Moola Gandaanta and the Lagan is a Chara (moveable) raashi then the residence of moola is said to be in Swarga Loka. If the Lagna is in Sthira (fixed) raashi then the residence is said to be  paataala (Hell) and for Lagna in Dwisvabhaava (common/ mutable) the residence is said to be in Mrityu loka. Birth when Moola resides in Mriyu loka is said to be the one most evil. The  dosha for the other two are middling.
Another method if birth falls in this gandaanta is:
Multiply the Nakshatra number by three. Add the result to number of birth tithi (counting from the Shukla Pratipada. To the sum of these add the number of the weekday (Sunday = 1, monday = 2 ......). The final number that is got by doing all the addition is to be divided by 8. The remainder shows some very specific results.
if the remainder is :
1) Moola gandaanta
result ascribed is Samoola vinaasha i.e. complete destruction.

2) Stanva Gandaanta
Dhana Naasha - destruction of wealth.

3)Twaccha gandaanta
Maatri Vinaasha - Destruction or problem to Mother.

4)Sakhaa Gandaantar
Aatma Shakti Vinaasha - Destruction of physical poweress and mental strength.

5)Patra gandaanta
maatula Naasha - destruction of maternal relations, actually destruction is too strong a word specially in these politically correct times, so trouble would be the right word. So the effect is read as trouble to Maternal relative/s.

6)Pushpa Gandaanta
Bhraatri Vinaasha
trouble to co borns.

7)Fhala Gandaanta
Pitri vinaasha - trouble to father.

8)Sheshna Gandaanta
Sarva vinaasha - all round troubles.
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Also some Authorities say that for a female birth in Day time and a male birth in night time cancels the dosha. Some say that the bad effects of the dosha are only marginally reduced and it is not completely cancelled.  

RishiRahul and vivek

[vivekvshetty]

Namaskaar Swapnil ji,
Tithi is Jala Tatva and hence shows emotions. The fifth house is also a Jala Bhaava and hence we should see the Tithi lord w.r.t the fifth Bhaava.
We can also see w.r.t the seventh bhaava but here it helps us in judging the longevity of Marriage.

in the example you have given, the Tithi lord in the 11th bhaava will fall in the 7th from fifth. Thus the basic complain will be of not treating the spouse as an equal partner.

RishiRahul and vivek.  

Dear Vivek ji

I understood the 1st and 2nd point 3rd is yet to be covered

As far i have understood this means that the interaction of sun moon is dependant on married life aspect (Little confused here)

And thiti lord placement for example if it is in labha bhava then this means spouse will have complain about gains of native in general

Regards

Swapnil

[gaonkarswapnil]

Dear vivek ji

As you have explained about thiti, would like to know the another step of meaning of percentage lefet for nakshatra it may may be same calculation as for thiti i think but do kindly enlighten us abt that as like the thiti is use to determine the natives incarnation and the the lord placement use to determinr the complian the spose will have

Now the question is for nakshatra from my side and will ask other things later on

Regards

swapnil

[vivekvshetty]

Namaskaar Swapnil ji,
First we want you to read the previous post of ours again and perhaps again. There is a very important line in it.
As for the Nakshatra anga of Panchaanga firstly there are so many advanced things which have not been touched now. Remember it is Vaayu Tatwa and prana is related to Vaayu and hence to Aayu.
This also hints at a important remedial measure to protect Praana. Remember who is called Vaayu putra?
The lord of the Chandra Nakshatra is important and its placement should be seen from the first bhaava because this is a Vaayu Tatva Bhaava. this has great bearing on longevity and also survival of anew born. This is the reason why Gandantar Dosha is said to curtail or cause trouble to Life of a child born during the time.
The conjunction of the two Gurus are a blessing ensuring either a strong intervention (some may call it divine intervention) or timely help of very good medical aid.
RishiRahul and vivek.

Dear vivek ji

As you have explained about thiti, would like to know the another step of meaning of percentage lefet for nakshatra it may may be same calculation as for thiti i think but do kindly enlighten us abt that as like the thiti is use to determine the natives incarnation and the the lord placement use to determinr the complian the spose will have

Now the question is for nakshatra from my side and will ask other things later on

Regards

swapnil

[Raman Deep Singh]

The Three Sandhis which suffer from gandaantar Dosha are like an Abyss. It can be crossed over by Jumping like a Lion (Simha) or Like a horse (Dhanus and also Ashwini Nakshatra). Very often this is dangerous as there is a danger of a fall. Only the Strong survive.

The Gandaanta of Jyestha and moola are given special treatment by Jyotish classics. Maharishi Paraashara has three chapters detailing the results of such birth and also the remedial measures to be done in case of such birth.

Some more effects are given below:
Jyestha-Moola Gandaanta and the Lagan is a Chara (moveable) raashi then the residence of moola is said to be in Swarga Loka. If the Lagna is in Sthira (fixed) raashi then the residence is said to be  paataala (Hell) and for Lagna in Dwisvabhaava (common/ mutable) the residence is said to be in Mrityu loka. Birth when Moola resides in Mriyu loka is said to be the one most evil. The  dosha for the other two are middling.
Another method if birth falls in this gandaanta is:
Multiply the Nakshatra number by three. Add the result to number of birth tithi (counting from the Shukla Pratipada. To the sum of these add the number of the weekday (Sunday = 1, monday = 2 ......). The final number that is got by doing all the addition is to be divided by 8. The remainder shows some very specific results.
if the remainder is :
1) Moola gandaanta
result ascribed is Samoola vinaasha i.e. complete destruction.

2) Stanva Gandaanta
Dhana Naasha - destruction of wealth.

3)Twaccha gandaanta
Maatri Vinaasha - Destruction or problem to Mother.

4)Sakhaa Gandaantar
Aatma Shakti Vinaasha - Destruction of physical poweress and mental strength.

5)Patra gandaanta
maatula Naasha - destruction of maternal relations, actually destruction is too strong a word specially in these politically correct times, so trouble would be the right word. So the effect is read as trouble to Maternal relative/s.

6)Pushpa Gandaanta
Bhraatri Vinaasha
trouble to co borns.

7)Fhala Gandaanta
Pitri vinaasha - trouble to father.

8)Sheshna Gandaanta
Sarva vinaasha - all round troubles.
-------
Also some Authorities say that for a female birth in Day time and a male birth in night time cancels the dosha. Some say that the bad effects of the dosha are only marginally reduced and it is not completely cancelled.  

Dear Vivek ji and Rishirahul ji,
got few queries.....
first of alll which weekday we suppose to add..

Second what about other gandanta dosha formed by karka and simha, meena and aries...

You did not tell what effect they give....
And again same question how is this destruction mentioned by you is different from destruction given by other conjunctin or malefic aspect and so on....How gandanta destruction is DIFFERENT????

Coz this same destruction can be cozed by other things also....

Regards,
Raman

[Raman Deep Singh]

Namaskaar Raman ji,
These junctions come under the Dosha (flaw) criteria because of three reasons.
First it is the Junction of two Elements very inimical to each other. If these two elements (Tatva) come together one will come out a winner. The Tatva philosophy is one of the six systems of Philosophy of Satya Sanaatana understanding and is known as the Sankhya Shaastra. It is beyond the purview of this course and hence the learner has to do some self study on this.
Second it is the junction of the ending of a Nakshatra cycle and the beginning of a new one -  The Sandhii of the natural Navataara chakra.
These are the Junctions of the three Vyaahrithis or the three worlds, BHU, BHUVA AND SWAHA.
Thirdly (this applies only for Jyestha/moola Sandhi) this is the start of another Zodiac (a hidden one) in the reverse. In addition to the enemity between the lords (Devatas) of the Nakshatras involved.
The specific results are for you to look up in the classics.
If you or anyone is unable to do so please inform us and we will give our understanding and share some knowledge we acquired from our teachers.
Raman ji, very deep secrets are hidden in this.

RishiRahul and vivek

Dear Vivek ji and Rishirahul ji,
I could not get you this point about HIDDEN ZODIAC...... and that also in reverse manner....

So do you mean we hav got 13 raashis .. including one which is hidden between scoprpio and saggi......
Kindly explain..

Regards,
Raman

[vivekvshetty]

The Three Sandhis which suffer from gandaantar Dosha are like an Abyss. It can be crossed over by Jumping like a Lion (Simha) or Like a horse (Dhanus and also Ashwini Nakshatra). Very often this is dangerous as there is a danger of a fall. Only the Strong survive.

The Gandaanta of Jyestha and moola are given special treatment by Jyotish classics. Maharishi Paraashara has three chapters detailing the results of such birth and also the remedial measures to be done in case of such birth.

Some more effects are given below:
Jyestha-Moola Gandaanta and the Lagan is a Chara (moveable) raashi then the residence of moola is said to be in Swarga Loka. If the Lagna is in Sthira (fixed) raashi then the residence is said to be  paataala (Hell) and for Lagna in Dwisvabhaava (common/ mutable) the residence is said to be in Mrityu loka. Birth when Moola resides in Mriyu loka is said to be the one most evil. The  dosha for the other two are middling.
Another method if birth falls in this gandaanta is:
Multiply the Nakshatra number by three. Add the result to number of birth tithi (counting from the Shukla Pratipada. To the sum of these add the number of the weekday (Sunday = 1, monday = 2 ......). The final number that is got by doing all the addition is to be divided by 8. The remainder shows some very specific results.
if the remainder is :
1) Moola gandaanta
result ascribed is Samoola vinaasha i.e. complete destruction.

2) Stanva Gandaanta
Dhana Naasha - destruction of wealth.

3)Twaccha gandaanta
Maatri Vinaasha - Destruction or problem to Mother.

4)Sakhaa Gandaantar
Aatma Shakti Vinaasha - Destruction of physical poweress and mental strength.

5)Patra gandaanta
maatula Naasha - destruction of maternal relations, actually destruction is too strong a word specially in these politically correct times, so trouble would be the right word. So the effect is read as trouble to Maternal relative/s.

6)Pushpa Gandaanta
Bhraatri Vinaasha
trouble to co borns.

7)Fhala Gandaanta
Pitri vinaasha - trouble to father.

8)Sheshna Gandaanta
Sarva vinaasha - all round troubles.
-------
Also some Authorities say that for a female birth in Day time and a male birth in night time cancels the dosha. Some say that the bad effects of the dosha are only marginally reduced and it is not completely cancelled.  

Dear Vivek ji and Rishirahul ji,
got few queries.....
first of alll which weekday we suppose to add..

Second what about other gandanta dosha formed by karka and simha, meena and aries...

You did not tell what effect they give....
And again same question how is this destruction mentioned by you is different from destruction given by other conjunctin or malefic aspect and so on....How gandanta destruction is DIFFERENT????

Coz this same destruction can be cozed by other things also....

Regards,
Raman

Namaskaar Raman ji,
The weekday taken should be the weekday of birth.
Let us give an example to understand it much better.
Data: Birth data is witheld.
Other details are:

Natal Chart of a Female-


Lunar Yr-Mo:   Rudhirodgaari - Pushya
Tithi:         Krishna Dwadasi (Bu) (54.40% left)
Vedic Weekday: Sunday (Sy)
Nakshatra:     Moola (Ke) (82.86% left)
Yoga:          Vyaghata (Sk) (46.77% left)
Karana:        Kaulava (Ma) (8.79% left)
Hora Lord:     Chandra (5 min sign: Makar)
Mahakala Hora: Sani (5 min sign: Meen)
Kaala Lord:    Guru (Mahakala: Guru)

Sunrise:       6:17:08
Sunset:        17:22:11
Janma Ghatis:  8.6195

Ayanamsa:      23-38-04.81
Sidereal Time: 18:37:55

Chandra is placed in Moola first charan (or as they say in South India - first Pada)
Hence the Horoscope suffers from gandaantar Dosha and it is moola Gandaantar.
Calculations:
moola is the 19th Nakshatra multiplying this by 3 gives us 57 add the Tithi which is K12 and from Shukla 1 it is 27. this gives us 84 add 1 for Sunday and we get 85.
Dividing by 8 the quotient is 10 and the remainder is 5.
Looking up the result for the number we find:
5)Patra gandaanta
maatula Naasha - destruction of maternal relations, actually destruction is too strong a word specially in these politically correct times, so trouble would be the right word. So the effect is read as trouble to Maternal relative/s.
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The other two Gandaantas are not said to be so negative and the results are for you to look up in the Classics.

Coming to the third question. The cause is different the effect may be not.
Here we are looking at the cause and there may be other combos in the Kundali giving the same or similar effects.

RishiRahul and vivek.

[vivekvshetty]

Namaskaar Raman ji,
These junctions come under the Dosha (flaw) criteria because of three reasons.
First it is the Junction of two Elements very inimical to each other. If these two elements (Tatva) come together one will come out a winner. The Tatva philosophy is one of the six systems of Philosophy of Satya Sanaatana understanding and is known as the Sankhya Shaastra. It is beyond the purview of this course and hence the learner has to do some self study on this.
Second it is the junction of the ending of a Nakshatra cycle and the beginning of a new one -  The Sandhii of the natural Navataara chakra.
These are the Junctions of the three Vyaahrithis or the three worlds, BHU, BHUVA AND SWAHA.
Thirdly (this applies only for Jyestha/moola Sandhi) this is the start of another Zodiac (a hidden one) in the reverse. In addition to the enemity between the lords (Devatas) of the Nakshatras involved.
The specific results are for you to look up in the classics.
If you or anyone is unable to do so please inform us and we will give our understanding and share some knowledge we acquired from our teachers.
Raman ji, very deep secrets are hidden in this.

RishiRahul and vivek

Dear Vivek ji and Rishirahul ji,
I could not get you this point about HIDDEN ZODIAC...... and that also in reverse manner....

So do you mean we hav got 13 raashis .. including one which is hidden between scoprpio and saggi......
Kindly explain..

Regards,
Raman

Namaskaar Raman ji,
13th sign! Naa!
That is some modern concept and here we are talking of something deeper and much more advanced. Exercise the white cells and you will get it.
Let us give you a lead.
Starting from Vrischika count in the reverse and see the lordships of the Raashis remain unaffected except the Luminaries exchange places. We do not propose to go into this much and the line was slipped just to pique the interest of the learners and also to see how carefully the lessons are being read.
We cannot help ourselves in giving you one more lead. Ganesh and Kartikeya.
RishiRahul and vivek.

[Raman Deep Singh]

We cannot help ourselves in giving you one more lead

I know this about you atleast by now

Will get back to you soon.

Regards,
Raman

[cecelia_1711]

A happy Makara Sankranti to all fellow learners.

Sankranti means the change if Raashi by Surya. On a Sankranti day Surya moves from one Raashi to the next. Any horoscope having Surya placed in the first Degree (0 degree to 1 degree) of a Raashi has Sankranti Dosha.
This is a Dosha (Affliction) on Surya as it is said to be weak on that day.
Natives born on this day are said to suffer the effects of this Dosha.
For such natives the Vaaresh becomes very Negative and the Bhaava/s owned by him (the Vaaresh) are said to suffer due to Anger of the Vaaresh.

There are remedies given by Paraashara to overcome this affliction.

If anybody has horoscopes of people known to them having this dosha please share it with us so that we may learn from it.

RishiRahul and vivek.

Hi vivek,
you will be able to find sankranti dosha in this chart.
date:17 nov. 1982
time: 8:20 am
place: ahmedabad.

above is detail of my chart. I have been pondering for many months now abt this dosha in my chart. can u through some light on that. I have one more question: Since the sun is between 0 and 1 degree in ascendant and venus is close to sun (in sankranti), will the venus still be combusted by sankranti sun?
apart from this, any other light on the topic and sun's presence in ascendant is well come.

Thank you.

-nshah

[vivekvshetty]

Hi vivek,
you will be able to find sankranti dosha in this chart.
date:17 nov. 1982
time: 8:20 am
place: ahmedabad.

above is detail of my chart. I have been pondering for many months now abt this dosha in my chart. can u through some light on that. I have one more question: Since the sun is between 0 and 1 degree in ascendant and venus is close to sun (in sankranti), will the venus still be combusted by sankranti sun?
apart from this, any other light on the topic and sun's presence in ascendant is well come.

Thank you.

-nshah

Namaskaar Shah ji,
You have to be a registered member for this vedic Astrology learning forum to post here.
Secondly this being a learning forum, personal readings are not encouraged. if your query is from a genuine desire to learn then first join this course, read all the lessons, answer all the questions asked in each of them. Only then we can get to answer this query.
Remember, one factor in isolation cannot throw much light on the intricacies of life and Jyotish.
RishiRahul and vivek

[deepakosho]

The weekday of the lord of any Bhaava is the best day for activity relating to the Bhaava.
This is used to choose the best Vaara for initiating any activity.

RishiRahul and vivek

But what if the bhavesh is badly disposed in the chart?

For e.g.) lets say the 7th bhava is either taurus or libra and venus is in 6th, 8th or 12th bhava? Would you still recommend marriage on friday?

Om Tat Sat,
Deepak

[deepakosho]

Vishtthi karana is also called Bhadra and is considered inauspicious. Birth during Bhadra is said to cause a flaw (dosha).

Chandra placed in Kark, Simha, Kumbha or meena and Vishtthi Karana coinciding is not good.
Bhadra falling in the first half of a Tithi at night is auspicious.

RishiRahul and vivek.

Rishi ji, vivek ji,

Does bphs give a remedy for this?

If a person is born in night time in sukla poornima and if moon is in Kark, Simha, Kumbha or meena - does this qualify for dhosa?

Om Tat Sat,
Deepak