Lesson 19: The wish fulfilling Tree.

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Lesson 19: The wish fulfilling Tree.

Post by vivekvshetty » Sun Dec 27, 2009 7:25 am

KalpaDrooma Yoga..
Learners following the Vedic Astrology section of this forum regularly will remember a yoga quoted by Respected Govardhan ji in the topic - Sign for liars. There he quoted a yoga from Sarvaarth Chintaamani (this is a highly regarded Classic of Jyotish).
It (the yoga given) was derived from the Yoga given by Mahaarishi Paraashara in BPHS.
He called it the Kalpadrooma yoga.
Kalpa means Creation or even a wish (it is actually visualization) and Drooma means a tree. This is the wish fulfilling tree Kalpavriksha spoken of in the scriptures. It is said that it grants all wishes made to it by a person standing in its shade.

Let us understand the mechanics of the yoga first.
Take the Lagna lord (Say planet A)
The lord of the Raashi in which the Lagnesha(a) is placed (say planet B)
The lord of the Raashi in which Paakesha (B) is placed (say planet C).
The Lord of the Raashi in Navaamsha in which (C) is placed. (Say planet D)

All the four Grahas (A, B, C, D) should be placed in kendras or Trikonas and/or should be strong by virtue of placement in own sign, Moolatrikona sign or Uccha in the Raashi (D-1) chart.

Result of the Yoga:
A Native born with Kalpadrooma Yoga is like a mighty king. It gives merciful nature and makes one pious, but still strong and undefeated. All the wishes of the native are granted by the Kalpavriksha.

Uses:
This is a very important Yoga. In this yoga the Mahaarishi has given us a clue to an easy method of reading a chart and finding the strenght and weakness of any Bhaava if the rules given herein are applied intelligently.

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An Example.

Post by vivekvshetty » Sun Jan 03, 2010 6:41 am

See the chart of a child given in the Panchaanga Lesson.
Details of the same is:
Date:          February 3, 2006
Time:          18:55:55
Time Zone:  5:30:00 (East of GMT)
Place:         72 E 51' 00", 19 N 02' 00"
                Mumbai, India

Here the Lagna lord is Chandra and is placed in a trikona (9th Bhaava) hence 'A' is good.
The lord of the sign of Lagnesha is Guru (Paakesha) and it is placed in Tula, a kendra and hence 'B' is also good.
The depositor of the Paakesha is Shukra (Paaka Paakesha) and is placed in the sixth Bhaava in Maranakaaraka. This is Bad, hence 'C' is bad.
This Paakapaakesha is placed in Tula in Navaamsha and Shukra, Lord of Tula again placed in the sixth bhaava in the raashi (D-1) chart. this 'D' again is not good.

So we have two positives and two negatives.

So the kalpadrooma doesnt exists in this chart.

Remember that there is an exchange of Guru and Shukra. this can alter the results.

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Post by gaonkarswapnil » Sun Jan 03, 2010 7:17 am

Dear Vivek ji

Here is now my understanding for example chart 1 mentioned in applying lesson

Lagnesha shani place in 3rd 'A' Bad

Lord of pakesha  Guru placed in 6th 'B' bad

Lord of pakesha Budha placed in 7th 'C' Good

Lord of pakapakesha is soma placed in 8th 'D' bad

So the kalpadrooma doesnt exists in this chart as only 'C' is good

Example chart 2

Lagnesha placed in Kendra 'A' Good

Lord of pakesha Guru placed in kendra 'B' Good

Lord of pakapakesha rashi is guru again so ''C' Good

In navamsa Guru is placed in makra and lord shani is placed in trikona in rashi chart 'D'  Good

So 2nd chart has kalpadrooma yoga

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Post by gaonkarswapnil » Wed Jan 06, 2010 3:03 pm

Dear Vivek ji

Sorry i am writing here as it is off the topic

Since it is known placement of lagna lord in particular rashi is said to be paka lagna and lord rulling that rashi is pakesha now this paakesha placed in particular rashi then its lord is said to be paakapaakesha

so we know paka falling in particular bhhava is native applying his intelligece

Then how to understand this paakesha placement and paaka paakesha placement

I mean that if this are conditions for kaalpadrooma yoga then there must be some thing special about the paakesha and paakapaakesha

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Post by vivekvshetty » Thu Jan 07, 2010 4:54 pm

Namaskaar Swapnil ji,
Great question. In fact this is the next level of the yoga. Actually one cant help but marvel at the knowledge of the Ancient Rishis and the way the had the ability to put very important rules in one terse yoga.
The Bhaavesha is the intelligence of the Bhaava.
The Paakesha is the health (like Surya).
The PaakaPaakesha is the sustainer (like Chandra) and the Paakapaakaamshesha is the luck factor, Also the blessing factor.

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gaonkarswapnil wrote:Dear Vivek ji

Sorry i am writing here as it is off the topic

Since it is known placement of lagna lord in particular rashi is said to be paka lagna and lord rulling that rashi is pakesha now this paakesha placed in particular rashi then its lord is said to be paakapaakesha

so we know paka falling in particular bhhava is native applying his intelligece

Then how to understand this paakesha placement and paaka paakesha placement

I mean that if this are conditions for kaalpadrooma yoga then there must be some thing special about the paakesha and paakapaakesha

Regards

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Post by mysbcrs » Fri Jan 08, 2010 4:08 pm

Namaskaar Vivekji,
The Bhaavesha is the intelligence of the Bhaava.
The Paakesha is the health (like Surya).
The PaakaPaakesha is the sustainer (like Chandra) and the Paakapaakaamshesha is the luck factor, Also the blessing factor.
Is the following application of the above to relationships correct?

Afflicted 7th lord - Not discerning in relationship matters, may get into relationships that a well balanced person may not.

Afflicted Paakesha of 7th lord - Relationship will not be robust/steady (independent of whether 7th lord is afflicted or not)

Afflicted paakapakesha of 7th - Native will have enough resources (material, psychological...) to support relationships (even if it is a foolish relationship and even through times when it is not robust)

Afflicted Paakapaakaamshesha of 7th - May not be happy with the outcome, independent of the other three. i.e, a native whose Paakapaakaamshesha is well placed may be happier with his relationships than one who has his Paakapaakaamshesha afflcited even if the other three are unafflicted.

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Post by vivekvshetty » Sun Jan 10, 2010 9:32 am

The Graha A will show the Intelligence of the native wrt the particular Bhaava under consideration. The kendras and Konas are the Vishnu Sthaanas and the Laxmi Sthaanas and hence shows the intelligence working to make the native fortunate in the area represented by the Bhaava. Wisdom is the key here.
In the chart no 2, taking the focus to be the seventh bhaava, we see the Graha A is Guru and it is placed in the 10th (A kendra Sthaana) and is in its own house also. This shows that the intelligence or the wisdom wrt marriage and married life is congruent to the well being of the native.

The Graha B is show the health of the matter connected to the particular bhaava. It is the Paakapaakesha and this shows the wisdom working in matters of health and self preservation.
In the Chart 2 we see the Paakapaakesha to be Guru himself and this is also a pointer to the fact that the spouse of the native will enjoy good health.

The Graha C shows the social security wrt the Bhaava in consideration.
In the chart we see that the planet Guru is also the planet C and its placement shows good and positive indications.

The Graha D is the fortune planet wrt the Bhaava in consideration and rules the fortune of that bhaava. this is very important. Luck is a very important factor in everything.
In the chart under consideration we see that the fortune graha is Shani and it is placed in its moolatrikona and also a trikona. Hence we can be sure that the native is lucky in Marriage. Ninth bhaava Shani is not considered good, but since the native is always visiting so many temples almost everyday, this tends to keep the negative effect of Shani in the Ninth under check.

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Post by vivekvshetty » Sun Jan 10, 2010 9:39 am

Namaskaar CRS ji,
our comment below.
mysbcrs wrote:Namaskaar Vivekji,
The Bhaavesha is the intelligence of the Bhaava.
The Paakesha is the health (like Surya).
The PaakaPaakesha is the sustainer (like Chandra) and the Paakapaakaamshesha is the luck factor, Also the blessing factor.
Is the following application of the above to relationships correct?

Afflicted 7th lord - Not discerning in relationship matters, may get into relationships that a well balanced person may not.
Yes this is possible.

Afflicted Paakesha of 7th lord - Relationship will not be robust/steady (independent of whether 7th lord is afflicted or not)
Yes, We may say it will not be a healthy relationship.
Afflicted paakapakesha of 7th - Native will have enough resources (material, psychological...) to support relationships (even if it is a foolish relationship and even through times when it is not robust)
we think you have mistyped here. social support may be lacking and we know how important this is for marriage.
Afflicted Paakapaakaamshesha of 7th - May not be happy with the outcome, independent of the other three. i.e, a native whose Paakapaakaamshesha is well placed may be happier with his relationships than one who has his Paakapaakaamshesha afflcited even if the other three are unafflicted.
This is important no doubt but, the previous three have their own role to play. The Amshesha is not the deciding factor. all the four will give you a better and truer picture.
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Post by mysbcrs » Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:56 am

Dhanyavaad Vivekji.

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Post by mysbcrs » Sun May 02, 2010 6:08 am

Namaskaar Vivekji,

I have read that many yogas are valid both from lagna as well as chandra lagna. Is Kalpadrooma also so?

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Post by vivekvshetty » Thu May 06, 2010 7:48 pm

Namaskaar CRS ji,
Both are different veiwpoints and this has to be kept in the mind always.
Kemadrooma is seen more from Chandra.
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mysbcrs wrote:Namaskaar Vivekji,

I have read that many yogas are valid both from lagna as well as chandra lagna. Is Kalpadrooma also so?

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Post by mysbcrs » Fri May 07, 2010 8:37 am

Namaskaar Vivekji,
Kemadrooma is seen more from Chandra.
Not sure whether it is s typo or you misunderstood my question. I wanted to know whether kalpadrooma (wish fulfilling tree) is valid from both lagna and chandra lagna.

From the example we worked upon, it is evident that the principle can be applied to any Bhaava. But when we apply to the bhaava where Chandra is placed do we look at as a secondary lagna in addition to the bhaava it signifies from lagna?

Thanks in advance.
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Post by vivekvshetty » Sat May 08, 2010 7:48 pm

Namaskaar CRS ji,
No we did not misunderstand.
Your query was, Should or can we use Kalpa drooma Principles to houses from the Chandra Lagna.
Our answers were.
Lagna and Chandra Lagna are two different (should we say very different) view points.
Lagna is from the veiw point of the individual (the ME and MINE).
Chandra Lagna is the from the view point of the Society of which s/he is a part.
Chandra Lagna is seen in the chart to know the support or otherwise a Native gets from her/his society.How far would Kalpadrooma be applicable to this view point, is something debatable.
Classical Jyotish text speak specifically of Kemadrooma (I would like to call it a barren tree) Yoga to be seen from Chandra.

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mysbcrs wrote:Namaskaar Vivekji,
Kemadrooma is seen more from Chandra.
Not sure whether it is s typo or you misunderstood my question. I wanted to know whether kalpadrooma (wish fulfilling tree) is valid from both lagna and chandra lagna.

From the example we worked upon, it is evident that the principle can be applied to any Bhaava. But when we apply to the bhaava where Chandra is placed do we look at as a secondary lagna in addition to the bhaava it signifies from lagna?

Thanks in advance.
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Post by mysbcrs » Sun May 09, 2010 5:30 am

Dhanyavaad Vivekji.

Sorry to go back. But got another doubt on method for applying kalpa drooma yoga. Hope you don't mind.

My understanding is that the classics talk of the yoga from the perspective of lagna only, but knowing that the Rishis have always been cryptic, we have broad based the interpretation to cover other Bhaavas.

While applying it to other bhaavas do we evaluate the placement of Bhaavesha, Paakesha, Paakpaakesha and Nvamshesha of paakapaakesha from the lagna or the bhaava?

For e.g, while applying the principle to 4th house, if 4th lord is in 9th, then it is in trine to lagna but dusthana to 4th. How should we take it for kalpadrooma?

Also do we apply different yardstick to assess how well Bhaavesh, Pakkesh, Paakapaakesh and Navamshesh of Paakapaakesh are placed depending on whether they are benefics/malefics?

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Post by vivekvshetty » Tue May 11, 2010 7:23 pm

Namaskaar CRS ji,
What is your opinion?

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mysbcrs wrote:Dhanyavaad Vivekji.

Sorry to go back. But got another doubt on method for applying kalpa drooma yoga. Hope you don't mind.

My understanding is that the classics talk of the yoga from the perspective of lagna only, but knowing that the Rishis have always been cryptic, we have broad based the interpretation to cover other Bhaavas.

While applying it to other bhaavas do we evaluate the placement of Bhaavesha, Paakesha, Paakpaakesha and Nvamshesha of paakapaakesha from the lagna or the bhaava?

For e.g, while applying the principle to 4th house, if 4th lord is in 9th, then it is in trine to lagna but dusthana to 4th. How should we take it for kalpadrooma?

Also do we apply different yardstick to assess how well Bhaavesh, Pakkesh, Paakapaakesh and Navamshesh of Paakapaakesh are placed depending on whether they are benefics/malefics?

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