I know we touched on this recently but has anyone researched the 1978 Golden Dawn Tarot by Robert Wang? What about the Hermetic tarot by Godfrey Dowson?
Shouldn't these decks be the ones we work with when we discuss the Tree of Life or the Hebrew meanings?
If some of the planets were not known by the ancient atronomers was their system wrong and was The Tarot designed to use all the planets as we now know them?
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Hi Cassie.
I have not studied the Golden Dawn at all, or the decks you are naming. My knowledge of the Golden Dawn, comes via our Mr. Crowley, and I have my opinions about him.
However, the broad spectrum indicates to Gnosticism from which most religious orders were born. Hermetisism, also born in Alexandria which was the "Mekka" of Judaism, Islam, and early Christianity.
Waite was a member, so also Crowley, these two people influenced Tarot, fortunately be Waite, being more "level-headed".
As I understand, the Hermetic order of the Golden Dawn, is an orginisation that stemmed from Hermetisism, they do not describe, and can not attract being the leaders of Hermetisism, at all.
It is most interesting that you posted this topic, as you said, we are working through the Hebrew Aleph-Beth. Doing so, we need input from alternative "thinking", but more an experience to enlighten our knowledge about the Tarot, in all areas of our daily living.
Something which was really an eye-opener, was that the Bible is said "Can't be translated" and has been misinterpreted, even in the Hebrew language, thus the warning from the scholars of the Qaballa.
I think we need to look at the planets as how the Angels were accorded by Zoroaster and Dionyssus. This I need to research, and would be able to give you an answer as how each of the Choirs were allocated, the Kings, Princes and Principalities. I did a doc on the 72 quenences and 36 faces of the decanates, of which was associated to the seven planets. I changed computers, so give me a while to look for it.
Blessed be.
I have not studied the Golden Dawn at all, or the decks you are naming. My knowledge of the Golden Dawn, comes via our Mr. Crowley, and I have my opinions about him.
However, the broad spectrum indicates to Gnosticism from which most religious orders were born. Hermetisism, also born in Alexandria which was the "Mekka" of Judaism, Islam, and early Christianity.
Waite was a member, so also Crowley, these two people influenced Tarot, fortunately be Waite, being more "level-headed".
As I understand, the Hermetic order of the Golden Dawn, is an orginisation that stemmed from Hermetisism, they do not describe, and can not attract being the leaders of Hermetisism, at all.
It is most interesting that you posted this topic, as you said, we are working through the Hebrew Aleph-Beth. Doing so, we need input from alternative "thinking", but more an experience to enlighten our knowledge about the Tarot, in all areas of our daily living.
Something which was really an eye-opener, was that the Bible is said "Can't be translated" and has been misinterpreted, even in the Hebrew language, thus the warning from the scholars of the Qaballa.
I think we need to look at the planets as how the Angels were accorded by Zoroaster and Dionyssus. This I need to research, and would be able to give you an answer as how each of the Choirs were allocated, the Kings, Princes and Principalities. I did a doc on the 72 quenences and 36 faces of the decanates, of which was associated to the seven planets. I changed computers, so give me a while to look for it.
Blessed be.
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Hi Cassie,
My introduction to the Kaballah, this is where it started and I referred to the Golden Dawn in particular.
This is the link:
https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AZyu ... hocg&hl=en
Here we see the paths, the Sephiro and tree of life. I'm still looking for the angelic attributions.
Blessed be.
My introduction to the Kaballah, this is where it started and I referred to the Golden Dawn in particular.
This is the link:
https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AZyu ... hocg&hl=en
Here we see the paths, the Sephiro and tree of life. I'm still looking for the angelic attributions.
Blessed be.
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Hi Guys.
There is no other way in which I can structure the text below, but to QUOTE THE AUTHOR.
"The Energy-Code of the Hebrew Alphabet:
An Introduction to
The Language of Structure and Energy
Hypertext Hebrew Alphabet
Resume and Conclusion
Once again let us state that it is impossible to speak of the unknown in our common tongue (including Hebrew), without changing it arbitrarily into recognisable images. This artificial device is at the bottom of all "proofs of the existence of God." It is inevitable that our tongues desecrate all that they discuss, because they have their being only in the measurable, in images, appraisements, comparisons. If they were not like this (by virtue of their nature) they would be useless for our modus vivendi, which cannot operate without having an accurate language at its disposal. We know that the decay of these instruments brings social disorders in its train. It is less easy to understand that these disorders also originate from the introduction of profane language into religious matters. (Hebrew, which uses only the initials of the Autiot as an alphabet - B for Bayt, etc. - is as profane as other tongues.) In assembling clearly defined words, in surrounding, explicitly stating and isolating the subject under discussion, our languages proceed by methodical exclusion: a subject is defined and clearly indicated by the elimination of everything extraneous to it. This is evident from the fact that thinking dependent on these languages always acts by comparisons.
The language of The Sepher Yetsira is anything but this. It treats objects - water, fire, human bodies, planets, the zodiac - only in terms of their situation and of their role within an infinitely multiple, hierarchical, systemisation of the one energising life force. The equations indicating these objects consequently designate, on all planes, all the structures which exist, or could exist, in the innumerable, known or unknown, conjugations of this hierarchical system, from the most material to the most rarefied, from the least to the highest state of consciousness. It is an all-inclusive language which has no equivalent in ours. It propounds a deeply religious mode of thought, in as much as it offers the cabalist the opportunity to find, on all existent levels, the secret bond which ties everything ontologically to the mysterious equation of the Unfathomable.
As everything that this language speaks about is a state of energy, and as energy is movement, nothing is a "thing" offering itself to spirit. On the contrary, spirit must pursue it through the metamorphoses of its groupings. But what happens to this language when its elements are themselves representative of differently structured conditions of this movement?
Instead of consisting of letters having no significance of their own (as are the letters of our alphabets) the language of the Qabala fully expresses itself in the whole Autiot, for the Autiot are projections of the vital movement that is both within and without Man who is the subject of Genesis and of The Sepher Yetsira.
Therefore, this sacred language is not an ordinary instrument capable of pointing something out, but incapable of conveying its meaning. (The words "music" and "colour" and, a fortiori, "God" and "Eternity" do not make music heard, colours visible, etc.) This language is a moving projection of what it is dealing with. It can be compared to a perfect documentary film which shows us an unknown world "as if we were there," but there is more to it than that: we are there. It is not "as if." We are in this projection, we are this projection; this documentary is our own situation, our own role, what we are and what we could be in the hierarchy of structures. But there is one further step in the adventure offered to us by this language, the possibility of effecting, producing new combinations with the Autiot. The cabalist who is steeped in contemplation of the Autiot and who becomes, in projecting their movement into himself, both this movement and the creator of new spheres, inevitably loses his sangfroid if his spirit is not completely free of religious myths (for then he feels he is a prophet), or of all will for power (for then he imagines he is a magician). If one is interested in these questions it is important to "play the game," without giving up one's critical faculties, because after all (or in spite of all), the Qabala is a matter of common sense.
Carlo Suares : The Sepher Yetsira, Shambhala, 1976
Hyper/Language
The letters of the Hebrew alphabet are the projections of twenty-two biologically structured energies, or generalized formative archetypes. These archetypes are semantically-accurate signs or representations that project and embody their own meanings -- Cosmic Energy is described in both subjective and objective terms as consciousness. The Book of Genesis is written in this language.
The Map is not the Territory
We may not notice that our embeddedness in natural languages that describe and are rooted in sensous, material reality hinders us from considering the possibility of a language that isn't, and the qualities such a language might possess.
Natural human languages are constructed from words and rules (Pinker, 1999). The words arearbitrary and sense-based (their roots are in things) while the rules for their combination are neurologically programmed and similar in the deep-structure of all languages.
Human language is:
• sensuously and materially based
• rooted in particular things
• semantically arbitrary
• descriptive
• linear
We know that there are other kinds of language -- music, mathematics, programming -- for instance, that deal with realities every bit as "real" as the languages of human speech. These languages are projective, rather than descriptive, because they allow the (re)construction of the reality they refer to by the person playing or reading the score or equations.
The Map is the Territory
With this background, we can consider the language of structure and energy as presented in Carlo Suares' Revived Qabala, particularly in The Cipher of Genesis (Shambhala, 1970, Weiser 1992, La Bible Restituee, Mont-Blanc, 1967). This language is based on the inner, structural meanings of the letters of Hebrew alphabet -- in which it is hidden -- and exhibits these qualities:
• non-sensuously and non-materially based
• roots in generalized abstractions
• semantically correct
• projective
• recursive/hologrammatic
Colloquial language is constructed from letters that have no intrinsic spellings or meanings. The words are arbitrary in relation to the things that they signify, and the letters are arbitrary to the words that they form "church" or "house" tell us nothing about how the letters relate to the meanings of the words, or why these two words indicate different kinds of dwellings. The roots of things are in consensual experience of material reality.
Instead, in The Cipher of Genesis, we are confronted with a language which is constructed from letters which have spellings and intrinsic meanings. These meanings in turn relate in a structural way to the words that they form, which are defined by the particular combinations and interactions of the structural energies of their components and subcomponents.
Here, we find a language which is formed out of itself and refers to itself, a language of abstraction dealing with the most generalized concepts of form and interaction of basic energies across the entire range of material and psychological structuration.
Rather than being arbitrary in its referents as are all human natural languages, the language of structure and energy is semantically accurate or correct. This means that the component letters (which are themselves constructed from other component letters) which form a word desribe and project the meaning of the word. For example:
Adam
The code is recursive and hologrammatic. Each letter of Hebrew, unlike in most languages, is spelled with component, specifying, letters. This means that many letters, when analyzed in their full expansions, have complex substructures, often composed of an infinite series. In addition, the whole may be reflected in a single equation, such as the neglected integral sign Et.
Finally, this is a projective, or operational, language. It is meant to be experienced, rather than understood, and to transform the consciousness of the psyche capable of receiving it.
The Autiot of the Hebrew Alphabet
Suares de-codes each letter of the Hebrew alphabet as an abstract energetic structure, or formative archetype. Because each letter is itself composed of other archetypes, its meaning is determined by its components, just as the meaning of the words are determined by the letters and the verses by the words in a way that is both recursive and hologrammatic.
These are precisely the qualities that distinguish Suares' energy-code from other metaphysical numerologies, from Plato on down. As we shall see, once we are within the realm of thought, we can begin to create abstract qualities. We can call these qualities one, two, three, or unity, duality, relationship, or essence, existence, perfection, but none of these words will tell us anything about the quality itself, except in terms of other analogies.
In contrast, Aleph, Bayt, Ghimmel are composed (at only the first level of expansion) of Aleph-Lammed-Phay, Bayt-Yod-Tav, Ghimmel-Mem-Lammed. Each subcomponent letter contributes its structural energy to the equation or specification for the letter itself. It should be clear that changing the meaning of one term affects the whole interrelated symbolic matrix.
Considered as an alphabet, this "downward" matrix has an "upward" counterpart as each letter occupies a place in the natural matrix of three rows of nine letter/numbers, 1-9, 10-90 and 100-900, completed by the final (sofit) forms of five of the twenty-two to make twenty-seven.
The three rows are seen as the logical expansion of one living energy through nine formative states. The nine columns are projections of the same basic formative state through three levels of being: archetypal, existential and cosmic: outside of, inside of and beyond space-time.
We now have the outline of a self-referential, abstract, symbolic language which describes and projects states of energy and consciousness which traverse the range of structuration in space-time, but have their origin and goal beyond it.
With all this in mind, we can consider the first "sign" of the Hebrew alphabet and the abstract energy-code. It should be obvious by now that our analogizing descriptions in a colloquial language can never approach the ontological precision of the actual code. This is all the more true of Aleph, the necessary first symbol of an energy that is totally beyond our thought and conception.
The Alphabet of Creation
Aleph, archetype of infinite, timeless, life-death, and the germ of life inside all containers. Aleph is the simplest and most basic representation of the Divine, because it represents what is completely beyond human thought.
Having recognized the limitations of thought and its function as container for energy, we already have a preconception of the second sign, Bayt, the archetype of separation, containment, duality and thought.
With these two signs, Aleph and Bayt, the contained and the container, we have the beginnings of an ontological alphabet dealing with archetypal structures of being. The rest of the letters are logical developments and part of an interrelated whole.
Given a contained and a container, the third sign is logically the relationship between the two, and we have the movement of energy or functional connection which is Ghimmel, organic movement.
Given an inside, an outside and movement between them, there is only one meaning the fourth sign can carry: the stopping and binding of that movement in Dallet, archetype of resistance.
The fifth sign in our structural-energy alphabet may not seem so obvious unless we remember that this language is about biologically-structured energies in different states of organization. Impulse-containment-movement-response leads to the necessity for an agency to optimally organize, manage and transmit the primary energies/information of the universe. This agency is Life, Hay.
In the simplest terms, to demonstrate the ontologic of the first nine letter/numbers, life reproduces itself to create an adaptive possibility drawn from a pool of unstructured potentials out of which the cell can concentrate energy and build structures capable of replication.
The first nine letters represent a generalized expression of the development of structuralizing energy on an archetypal level. Their expression on an existential level, or their projections into actuality, similarly unfolds a basic expansion of structuring energies, this time starting with Aleph's opposite, Yod, existence, through the achieved structuration of Tsadde, projection of the archeyptal Tayt. On this level, structural equations often reverse their meanings from the archetypal: Dallet-Mem (4.40) = resistance-yielding, Waw- Sammekh (6.60) = male-female.
The last nine repeat the theme, but this time starting from Qof, the union of Aleph and Yod, and proceeding through Tsadde final and representing states of cosmic energy and transcendence.
We now have a matrix of abstract energies or formative structures, a three-level expansion of nine basic structural states, the first two levels generated by the opposition of Aleph and Yod, life/death and existence, and the third by their reconciliation.
The One Dual Energy
With a basic understanding of the structural semantics of the energy-code, which designate energies both within and beyond space-time, we can consider another basic quality of the language of structure and energy:
• Describes states in a two-way flow of energy
We are accustomed not only to materially-derived, sematically-arbitrary languages, but also to philosophical or religious viewpoints which are based on a one-way process of manifestation, starting either with big-bang scientific evolutionary materialism or God creating the Universe, and it may be difficult to consider a viewpoint that is constructed on neither premise.
The most basic illustration of this point is the word for sign or letter (of the alphabet) in Hebrew:
We note again that the signifier is the signified in this language. The equation for letter, according to the energy-code, is a linking (Waw) of consciousness (Aleph) with its object (Tav) across all levels of structuration. Energy flows from Aleph to Tav and returns from Tav to Aleph. This dual flow of energy creates inner (conscious) and outer (material) structures through the agency of the signs of creation:Autiot-Yassod.
Suares demonstrates, through his readings of Qabalistic texts and the analysis of their energy equations, that every major primary text -- Genesis, Song of Songs, Sepher Yetsira -- is saturated with descriptions and themes of energy in dual states and flows, as the existence of the container and the life of the contained are simultaneously specified in every context, from Bere-shyt to Heaven-Earth to Man-Woman to Adam-Eve to Cain-Able to Jacob-Esau to Moses-Aaron to Jesus-Judas to Autiot-Yassod to Nativot- Phayliot to Sepherot-Belimah to the timeless Immanence and His Beloved. All these equations can be newly understood in their interior, structural-energetic meanings and depths.
Beginning with Bereshyt.
See: Hebrew Alphabet and Jean Houston's introduction in Powers of Genesis. See Chief Fela Sowande's coverage of the same material.
The twenty-two graphs which are used as letters in the Hebrew alphabet are twenty-two proper names originally used to designate different states or structures of the one cosmic energy, which is essence and semblance, of all that is. Even though they correspond to numbers, symbols and ideas, those twenty two vastly exceed all the most exhaustive sets of classes: they cannot be distributed among things because they factually are that which they designate.
The Cipher of Genesis, Carlo Suares, Samuel Weiser, 1970
The decoding of Genesis and of any other cabalistic text is therefore not a mere matter of transposing from A-B-C to Aleph-Bayt-Ghimel, but a process of penetrating an unknown world by means of a manner of thinking which has to be experienced by the very use of the language which must be learned in order to understand it. However paradoxical and perhaps difficult this may appear, it stands to reason that were the Revelation a matter of ordinary words, it would be an obvious fact prone to superficial observation.
The Cipher of Genesis, Carlo Suares, Samuel Weiser, 1970"
Moving on with this subject is as I have said before, a step-by-step process, if we want to understand the structure, we need to conform to the foundations thereof.
Within and part of the Cypher of Genesis, we have the Cube of Space and all it's influences, variations and Zodiac, etc. Here is where we find the first reference to the Golden Dawn, as a projection of their Cube of Space.
I think it may be beneficial for us to get this lot under the belt and then move on?
Blessed be.
There is no other way in which I can structure the text below, but to QUOTE THE AUTHOR.
"The Energy-Code of the Hebrew Alphabet:
An Introduction to
The Language of Structure and Energy
Hypertext Hebrew Alphabet
Resume and Conclusion
Once again let us state that it is impossible to speak of the unknown in our common tongue (including Hebrew), without changing it arbitrarily into recognisable images. This artificial device is at the bottom of all "proofs of the existence of God." It is inevitable that our tongues desecrate all that they discuss, because they have their being only in the measurable, in images, appraisements, comparisons. If they were not like this (by virtue of their nature) they would be useless for our modus vivendi, which cannot operate without having an accurate language at its disposal. We know that the decay of these instruments brings social disorders in its train. It is less easy to understand that these disorders also originate from the introduction of profane language into religious matters. (Hebrew, which uses only the initials of the Autiot as an alphabet - B for Bayt, etc. - is as profane as other tongues.) In assembling clearly defined words, in surrounding, explicitly stating and isolating the subject under discussion, our languages proceed by methodical exclusion: a subject is defined and clearly indicated by the elimination of everything extraneous to it. This is evident from the fact that thinking dependent on these languages always acts by comparisons.
The language of The Sepher Yetsira is anything but this. It treats objects - water, fire, human bodies, planets, the zodiac - only in terms of their situation and of their role within an infinitely multiple, hierarchical, systemisation of the one energising life force. The equations indicating these objects consequently designate, on all planes, all the structures which exist, or could exist, in the innumerable, known or unknown, conjugations of this hierarchical system, from the most material to the most rarefied, from the least to the highest state of consciousness. It is an all-inclusive language which has no equivalent in ours. It propounds a deeply religious mode of thought, in as much as it offers the cabalist the opportunity to find, on all existent levels, the secret bond which ties everything ontologically to the mysterious equation of the Unfathomable.
As everything that this language speaks about is a state of energy, and as energy is movement, nothing is a "thing" offering itself to spirit. On the contrary, spirit must pursue it through the metamorphoses of its groupings. But what happens to this language when its elements are themselves representative of differently structured conditions of this movement?
Instead of consisting of letters having no significance of their own (as are the letters of our alphabets) the language of the Qabala fully expresses itself in the whole Autiot, for the Autiot are projections of the vital movement that is both within and without Man who is the subject of Genesis and of The Sepher Yetsira.
Therefore, this sacred language is not an ordinary instrument capable of pointing something out, but incapable of conveying its meaning. (The words "music" and "colour" and, a fortiori, "God" and "Eternity" do not make music heard, colours visible, etc.) This language is a moving projection of what it is dealing with. It can be compared to a perfect documentary film which shows us an unknown world "as if we were there," but there is more to it than that: we are there. It is not "as if." We are in this projection, we are this projection; this documentary is our own situation, our own role, what we are and what we could be in the hierarchy of structures. But there is one further step in the adventure offered to us by this language, the possibility of effecting, producing new combinations with the Autiot. The cabalist who is steeped in contemplation of the Autiot and who becomes, in projecting their movement into himself, both this movement and the creator of new spheres, inevitably loses his sangfroid if his spirit is not completely free of religious myths (for then he feels he is a prophet), or of all will for power (for then he imagines he is a magician). If one is interested in these questions it is important to "play the game," without giving up one's critical faculties, because after all (or in spite of all), the Qabala is a matter of common sense.
Carlo Suares : The Sepher Yetsira, Shambhala, 1976
Hyper/Language
The letters of the Hebrew alphabet are the projections of twenty-two biologically structured energies, or generalized formative archetypes. These archetypes are semantically-accurate signs or representations that project and embody their own meanings -- Cosmic Energy is described in both subjective and objective terms as consciousness. The Book of Genesis is written in this language.
The Map is not the Territory
We may not notice that our embeddedness in natural languages that describe and are rooted in sensous, material reality hinders us from considering the possibility of a language that isn't, and the qualities such a language might possess.
Natural human languages are constructed from words and rules (Pinker, 1999). The words arearbitrary and sense-based (their roots are in things) while the rules for their combination are neurologically programmed and similar in the deep-structure of all languages.
Human language is:
• sensuously and materially based
• rooted in particular things
• semantically arbitrary
• descriptive
• linear
We know that there are other kinds of language -- music, mathematics, programming -- for instance, that deal with realities every bit as "real" as the languages of human speech. These languages are projective, rather than descriptive, because they allow the (re)construction of the reality they refer to by the person playing or reading the score or equations.
The Map is the Territory
With this background, we can consider the language of structure and energy as presented in Carlo Suares' Revived Qabala, particularly in The Cipher of Genesis (Shambhala, 1970, Weiser 1992, La Bible Restituee, Mont-Blanc, 1967). This language is based on the inner, structural meanings of the letters of Hebrew alphabet -- in which it is hidden -- and exhibits these qualities:
• non-sensuously and non-materially based
• roots in generalized abstractions
• semantically correct
• projective
• recursive/hologrammatic
Colloquial language is constructed from letters that have no intrinsic spellings or meanings. The words are arbitrary in relation to the things that they signify, and the letters are arbitrary to the words that they form "church" or "house" tell us nothing about how the letters relate to the meanings of the words, or why these two words indicate different kinds of dwellings. The roots of things are in consensual experience of material reality.
Instead, in The Cipher of Genesis, we are confronted with a language which is constructed from letters which have spellings and intrinsic meanings. These meanings in turn relate in a structural way to the words that they form, which are defined by the particular combinations and interactions of the structural energies of their components and subcomponents.
Here, we find a language which is formed out of itself and refers to itself, a language of abstraction dealing with the most generalized concepts of form and interaction of basic energies across the entire range of material and psychological structuration.
Rather than being arbitrary in its referents as are all human natural languages, the language of structure and energy is semantically accurate or correct. This means that the component letters (which are themselves constructed from other component letters) which form a word desribe and project the meaning of the word. For example:
Adam
The code is recursive and hologrammatic. Each letter of Hebrew, unlike in most languages, is spelled with component, specifying, letters. This means that many letters, when analyzed in their full expansions, have complex substructures, often composed of an infinite series. In addition, the whole may be reflected in a single equation, such as the neglected integral sign Et.
Finally, this is a projective, or operational, language. It is meant to be experienced, rather than understood, and to transform the consciousness of the psyche capable of receiving it.
The Autiot of the Hebrew Alphabet
Suares de-codes each letter of the Hebrew alphabet as an abstract energetic structure, or formative archetype. Because each letter is itself composed of other archetypes, its meaning is determined by its components, just as the meaning of the words are determined by the letters and the verses by the words in a way that is both recursive and hologrammatic.
These are precisely the qualities that distinguish Suares' energy-code from other metaphysical numerologies, from Plato on down. As we shall see, once we are within the realm of thought, we can begin to create abstract qualities. We can call these qualities one, two, three, or unity, duality, relationship, or essence, existence, perfection, but none of these words will tell us anything about the quality itself, except in terms of other analogies.
In contrast, Aleph, Bayt, Ghimmel are composed (at only the first level of expansion) of Aleph-Lammed-Phay, Bayt-Yod-Tav, Ghimmel-Mem-Lammed. Each subcomponent letter contributes its structural energy to the equation or specification for the letter itself. It should be clear that changing the meaning of one term affects the whole interrelated symbolic matrix.
Considered as an alphabet, this "downward" matrix has an "upward" counterpart as each letter occupies a place in the natural matrix of three rows of nine letter/numbers, 1-9, 10-90 and 100-900, completed by the final (sofit) forms of five of the twenty-two to make twenty-seven.
The three rows are seen as the logical expansion of one living energy through nine formative states. The nine columns are projections of the same basic formative state through three levels of being: archetypal, existential and cosmic: outside of, inside of and beyond space-time.
We now have the outline of a self-referential, abstract, symbolic language which describes and projects states of energy and consciousness which traverse the range of structuration in space-time, but have their origin and goal beyond it.
With all this in mind, we can consider the first "sign" of the Hebrew alphabet and the abstract energy-code. It should be obvious by now that our analogizing descriptions in a colloquial language can never approach the ontological precision of the actual code. This is all the more true of Aleph, the necessary first symbol of an energy that is totally beyond our thought and conception.
The Alphabet of Creation
Aleph, archetype of infinite, timeless, life-death, and the germ of life inside all containers. Aleph is the simplest and most basic representation of the Divine, because it represents what is completely beyond human thought.
Having recognized the limitations of thought and its function as container for energy, we already have a preconception of the second sign, Bayt, the archetype of separation, containment, duality and thought.
With these two signs, Aleph and Bayt, the contained and the container, we have the beginnings of an ontological alphabet dealing with archetypal structures of being. The rest of the letters are logical developments and part of an interrelated whole.
Given a contained and a container, the third sign is logically the relationship between the two, and we have the movement of energy or functional connection which is Ghimmel, organic movement.
Given an inside, an outside and movement between them, there is only one meaning the fourth sign can carry: the stopping and binding of that movement in Dallet, archetype of resistance.
The fifth sign in our structural-energy alphabet may not seem so obvious unless we remember that this language is about biologically-structured energies in different states of organization. Impulse-containment-movement-response leads to the necessity for an agency to optimally organize, manage and transmit the primary energies/information of the universe. This agency is Life, Hay.
In the simplest terms, to demonstrate the ontologic of the first nine letter/numbers, life reproduces itself to create an adaptive possibility drawn from a pool of unstructured potentials out of which the cell can concentrate energy and build structures capable of replication.
The first nine letters represent a generalized expression of the development of structuralizing energy on an archetypal level. Their expression on an existential level, or their projections into actuality, similarly unfolds a basic expansion of structuring energies, this time starting with Aleph's opposite, Yod, existence, through the achieved structuration of Tsadde, projection of the archeyptal Tayt. On this level, structural equations often reverse their meanings from the archetypal: Dallet-Mem (4.40) = resistance-yielding, Waw- Sammekh (6.60) = male-female.
The last nine repeat the theme, but this time starting from Qof, the union of Aleph and Yod, and proceeding through Tsadde final and representing states of cosmic energy and transcendence.
We now have a matrix of abstract energies or formative structures, a three-level expansion of nine basic structural states, the first two levels generated by the opposition of Aleph and Yod, life/death and existence, and the third by their reconciliation.
The One Dual Energy
With a basic understanding of the structural semantics of the energy-code, which designate energies both within and beyond space-time, we can consider another basic quality of the language of structure and energy:
• Describes states in a two-way flow of energy
We are accustomed not only to materially-derived, sematically-arbitrary languages, but also to philosophical or religious viewpoints which are based on a one-way process of manifestation, starting either with big-bang scientific evolutionary materialism or God creating the Universe, and it may be difficult to consider a viewpoint that is constructed on neither premise.
The most basic illustration of this point is the word for sign or letter (of the alphabet) in Hebrew:
We note again that the signifier is the signified in this language. The equation for letter, according to the energy-code, is a linking (Waw) of consciousness (Aleph) with its object (Tav) across all levels of structuration. Energy flows from Aleph to Tav and returns from Tav to Aleph. This dual flow of energy creates inner (conscious) and outer (material) structures through the agency of the signs of creation:Autiot-Yassod.
Suares demonstrates, through his readings of Qabalistic texts and the analysis of their energy equations, that every major primary text -- Genesis, Song of Songs, Sepher Yetsira -- is saturated with descriptions and themes of energy in dual states and flows, as the existence of the container and the life of the contained are simultaneously specified in every context, from Bere-shyt to Heaven-Earth to Man-Woman to Adam-Eve to Cain-Able to Jacob-Esau to Moses-Aaron to Jesus-Judas to Autiot-Yassod to Nativot- Phayliot to Sepherot-Belimah to the timeless Immanence and His Beloved. All these equations can be newly understood in their interior, structural-energetic meanings and depths.
Beginning with Bereshyt.
See: Hebrew Alphabet and Jean Houston's introduction in Powers of Genesis. See Chief Fela Sowande's coverage of the same material.
The twenty-two graphs which are used as letters in the Hebrew alphabet are twenty-two proper names originally used to designate different states or structures of the one cosmic energy, which is essence and semblance, of all that is. Even though they correspond to numbers, symbols and ideas, those twenty two vastly exceed all the most exhaustive sets of classes: they cannot be distributed among things because they factually are that which they designate.
The Cipher of Genesis, Carlo Suares, Samuel Weiser, 1970
The decoding of Genesis and of any other cabalistic text is therefore not a mere matter of transposing from A-B-C to Aleph-Bayt-Ghimel, but a process of penetrating an unknown world by means of a manner of thinking which has to be experienced by the very use of the language which must be learned in order to understand it. However paradoxical and perhaps difficult this may appear, it stands to reason that were the Revelation a matter of ordinary words, it would be an obvious fact prone to superficial observation.
The Cipher of Genesis, Carlo Suares, Samuel Weiser, 1970"
Moving on with this subject is as I have said before, a step-by-step process, if we want to understand the structure, we need to conform to the foundations thereof.
Within and part of the Cypher of Genesis, we have the Cube of Space and all it's influences, variations and Zodiac, etc. Here is where we find the first reference to the Golden Dawn, as a projection of their Cube of Space.
I think it may be beneficial for us to get this lot under the belt and then move on?
Blessed be.
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Oh Paye you miss the point? The Golden Dawn influenced Waite and Crowley so much that they then went on to create the modern decks, the rest is irrelevant if one wanted to go back to the roots, you quote masses of information that misses the point too? Who cares about the bible and genesis we are talking Tarot.
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Hi Cassie,
No, we aren't talking Bible and Genesis "per say". But the Hebrew alphabet that is described in Genisis as Autoit and Archetypes. These are under consideration, and we find the link to the Aleph-Bet here. Then we need to understand the 22 points, levels of energy, zodiac. How it fits and where it goes, into the future. It's easy to get lost, yes, but wasier to have a road map, showing the future from a pure perspective.
Agree Crowley and Waite did the decks, not really crowley, he just designed his model of Tarot.
I also have the Cube of Space according the Golden Dawn, it is in and part of the complete Cipher of Genesis, The Hebrew alphabet and how it is quoted or misinterpreted.
The only thing I can't do yet, is speak, read or understand the language, that is a real pity!
Blessed be
No, we aren't talking Bible and Genesis "per say". But the Hebrew alphabet that is described in Genisis as Autoit and Archetypes. These are under consideration, and we find the link to the Aleph-Bet here. Then we need to understand the 22 points, levels of energy, zodiac. How it fits and where it goes, into the future. It's easy to get lost, yes, but wasier to have a road map, showing the future from a pure perspective.
Agree Crowley and Waite did the decks, not really crowley, he just designed his model of Tarot.
I also have the Cube of Space according the Golden Dawn, it is in and part of the complete Cipher of Genesis, The Hebrew alphabet and how it is quoted or misinterpreted.
The only thing I can't do yet, is speak, read or understand the language, that is a real pity!
Blessed be
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Hi Cassie.
Let me put this in this way. I always Tarotise everything and anything around me. To me it is a way of life, rather than a superficial ignorance of how things may work, might be or can happen. This is my personal postulation and has nothing to do with anyone or what their beliefs are.
Now, let us have a look at this entire string, as of when you posted it. Very simple, you posted an Aleph, then the only way would be for your Aleph to move into Beth! Your thought or perception, being an Aleph----unstructured energy! It can go in any direction to be contained in Beth.
In this sense, we see that your Aleph put everybody on notice, it placed your thought in their minds and then from that, they start Bething on your Aleph-Beth.
This is pure Kaballah and the route of "Unstructured energy". The Bible is only byt one Clerical "Holy book", as we comprehend it. Yet, Genesis should be seen as a Book removed from the Bible altoghether, as this is the only Biblical book written in pure Hebrew.
The Sepher Yetsirah, is a Book far more important than which is alloted, due respect. All of this is pure Kaballah.
Now, when you want to talk Golden Dawn! You truly have to start at the root of their teachings which is Kaballah based.
To be frank with you, if a person do not understand the direction of their unstructured energies as accorded by the Kaballah, they are slightly lost, as it is a roadmap to succes and attainment. We find the "22 points" in Genesis, which the Occultists have attracted to the Tarot!!!! It is absolutely not the other way round.
Let me give you this: Again a Quoted paragraph from the Book of Cain (II):
An important postulate of the Yetsira is: Aleph with everything and everything with Aleph: Bayt with everything and everything with Bayt (or Vayt). Aleph being the timeless, unthinkable, eternal, or explosive Energy (or whichever word we wish to use for what evades all mental concepts) and Bayt (or Vayt) being any container in whatever form, shape vibration, undulation, ray, etc. . . that postulate means -- if I can use an obsolete. inadequate. but convienient set of words -- that everything that is, in whatever realm, is both "spirit" and "matter", or that there is no explosive Energy without compressive Energy, and reciprocally no structural drive without the opposite disintegrating drive. Thus everything that is, is considered by the Yetsira in terms of two co-ordinates, Aleph and Bayt. Where Bayt prevails powerfully, as in a piece of iron, Aleph is hopelessly in bondage; it cannot be active; in the biosphere Aleph operates; in the exalted mental emanation of a man made perfect, Aleph operates through time and space by means of so subtle mediums that they evade perception. So both Aleph and Bayt exist in different ranges from the inert to the very active. If by any chance one could have in oneself and be made of Aleph alive and Bayt alive, one would be in touch and commune with Aleph wherever it is and with the Bayts, whatever they are, therefore with everything that is.
In the above qouted text, we find a very interesting approach.
Where does "The Secret" come from? What are the possibillities of this roadmap! Who knows if it is not based on the 22 points?
This equasion exist from the concept of: "From eternity in the past, to eternity into the future" "One Universal Energy"--permeating all and everything. Evolution, in the sense that what adapts will survive, the weak will go into extinction, or more clearly: "The eater and the eaten."
I do not want to limit my thoughts around this to be purely Tarot, my Universe is far greater than this. Those who do not want to understand the Kaballah, or who are not interested to study it comprehensively, are not in the outskirts or ignored, far from that.
Studiyng the Quaballah is my own personal choice, and I would hate to pin everybody to do it! To try and limit our studies to "The Golden Dawn or Hermetisicm", would be folly.
The Sepher Yetsira and Kaballah comes from pre-Gnostic thinking. Hermitisism is a way of thought, born from Gnostisism. I want you to look at my spelling accorded to Hermitisism. My interpritation of this way of thingking, is that of an old man, with outdated ideals. We see that in Arcanum 9, being "The Hermit". Thus, this person thinks on all his thoughts and do not really have a constructive way to proceed into 10, being Yod and Attainment, although he is the last card in the Archetypal, it is difficult for that person to bring his thinking to a fruitfull disposition in 10, being Yod, without, considering the Life-Death principle as being a totalitarian way of indicating the Two-fold breath, or "Jacob's Ladder".
In this sense, to want to describe something out -of-text, is impossible. That is why, when trying to understand the Kaballah, you need to understand how the "Universal Energy" is obviated and distributed in our way of thinking, acting and reacting to certain circumstance.
In essence, we need to see life in a different spectrum, than to pigeonhole ourselves into a certian----"WHO ARE YOU"
If you can attribute yourself to be who you are? What are you in reality? "A NAME", SO, "WHO ARE YOU?"
Cassie, by no means am I wanting to change any person's perception, but when we want to explore the unknown, we need to open our minds to any possibility, be it the Major Arcanum, 22 Halls, 22 points, Hermitisism, Gnosticism, whatever! We are all but mere students!
I suppose I have plenty incorrect words or spelling mistakes, please don't take notice of that.
Blessed be.
Let me put this in this way. I always Tarotise everything and anything around me. To me it is a way of life, rather than a superficial ignorance of how things may work, might be or can happen. This is my personal postulation and has nothing to do with anyone or what their beliefs are.
Now, let us have a look at this entire string, as of when you posted it. Very simple, you posted an Aleph, then the only way would be for your Aleph to move into Beth! Your thought or perception, being an Aleph----unstructured energy! It can go in any direction to be contained in Beth.
In this sense, we see that your Aleph put everybody on notice, it placed your thought in their minds and then from that, they start Bething on your Aleph-Beth.
This is pure Kaballah and the route of "Unstructured energy". The Bible is only byt one Clerical "Holy book", as we comprehend it. Yet, Genesis should be seen as a Book removed from the Bible altoghether, as this is the only Biblical book written in pure Hebrew.
The Sepher Yetsirah, is a Book far more important than which is alloted, due respect. All of this is pure Kaballah.
Now, when you want to talk Golden Dawn! You truly have to start at the root of their teachings which is Kaballah based.
To be frank with you, if a person do not understand the direction of their unstructured energies as accorded by the Kaballah, they are slightly lost, as it is a roadmap to succes and attainment. We find the "22 points" in Genesis, which the Occultists have attracted to the Tarot!!!! It is absolutely not the other way round.
Let me give you this: Again a Quoted paragraph from the Book of Cain (II):
An important postulate of the Yetsira is: Aleph with everything and everything with Aleph: Bayt with everything and everything with Bayt (or Vayt). Aleph being the timeless, unthinkable, eternal, or explosive Energy (or whichever word we wish to use for what evades all mental concepts) and Bayt (or Vayt) being any container in whatever form, shape vibration, undulation, ray, etc. . . that postulate means -- if I can use an obsolete. inadequate. but convienient set of words -- that everything that is, in whatever realm, is both "spirit" and "matter", or that there is no explosive Energy without compressive Energy, and reciprocally no structural drive without the opposite disintegrating drive. Thus everything that is, is considered by the Yetsira in terms of two co-ordinates, Aleph and Bayt. Where Bayt prevails powerfully, as in a piece of iron, Aleph is hopelessly in bondage; it cannot be active; in the biosphere Aleph operates; in the exalted mental emanation of a man made perfect, Aleph operates through time and space by means of so subtle mediums that they evade perception. So both Aleph and Bayt exist in different ranges from the inert to the very active. If by any chance one could have in oneself and be made of Aleph alive and Bayt alive, one would be in touch and commune with Aleph wherever it is and with the Bayts, whatever they are, therefore with everything that is.
In the above qouted text, we find a very interesting approach.
Where does "The Secret" come from? What are the possibillities of this roadmap! Who knows if it is not based on the 22 points?
This equasion exist from the concept of: "From eternity in the past, to eternity into the future" "One Universal Energy"--permeating all and everything. Evolution, in the sense that what adapts will survive, the weak will go into extinction, or more clearly: "The eater and the eaten."
I do not want to limit my thoughts around this to be purely Tarot, my Universe is far greater than this. Those who do not want to understand the Kaballah, or who are not interested to study it comprehensively, are not in the outskirts or ignored, far from that.
Studiyng the Quaballah is my own personal choice, and I would hate to pin everybody to do it! To try and limit our studies to "The Golden Dawn or Hermetisicm", would be folly.
The Sepher Yetsira and Kaballah comes from pre-Gnostic thinking. Hermitisism is a way of thought, born from Gnostisism. I want you to look at my spelling accorded to Hermitisism. My interpritation of this way of thingking, is that of an old man, with outdated ideals. We see that in Arcanum 9, being "The Hermit". Thus, this person thinks on all his thoughts and do not really have a constructive way to proceed into 10, being Yod and Attainment, although he is the last card in the Archetypal, it is difficult for that person to bring his thinking to a fruitfull disposition in 10, being Yod, without, considering the Life-Death principle as being a totalitarian way of indicating the Two-fold breath, or "Jacob's Ladder".
In this sense, to want to describe something out -of-text, is impossible. That is why, when trying to understand the Kaballah, you need to understand how the "Universal Energy" is obviated and distributed in our way of thinking, acting and reacting to certain circumstance.
In essence, we need to see life in a different spectrum, than to pigeonhole ourselves into a certian----"WHO ARE YOU"
If you can attribute yourself to be who you are? What are you in reality? "A NAME", SO, "WHO ARE YOU?"
Cassie, by no means am I wanting to change any person's perception, but when we want to explore the unknown, we need to open our minds to any possibility, be it the Major Arcanum, 22 Halls, 22 points, Hermitisism, Gnosticism, whatever! We are all but mere students!
I suppose I have plenty incorrect words or spelling mistakes, please don't take notice of that.
Blessed be.
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I do not believe in the Kaballah, but if you are studying it then how can you possibly use the Rider Waite and not one of the true Kaballah based decks? Seems strange to me, you keep trying to find, study and then discuss the symbolism of the RWS but it is there clearly in these other decks?Studiyng the Quaballah is my own personal choice, and I would hate to pin everybody to do it! To try and limit our studies to "The Golden Dawn or Hermetisicm", would be folly.
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Hi Cassie.
Waite was a Master Mason. If you know all the symbolism and teachings, you will see and understand more about the RW deck.
I want to point out to you, that more than few Kings, Princes, Presidents, Prime Ministers, in fact premiers of Countries, especially in the West, also Isreal, has certain qualifications they need to have, of which, being a Mason may be one!, in order to become the Leader of that Country.
In regard to this, you may want to research "the X-Factor", it's roots, influence and importance. This specifically also in the development of Hermitisism and the Golden Dawn.
I have a short article about it, but the topic is rather extensive. Furthermore, there are things, which can not be discussed at all.
Cas, at this stage i'm truly only a student with the Kaballah, I just don't want to take on too much at once. Using another deck that RW, will be impossible. I have physical limitations, and I just don't think it being productive for me at this stage to diverse into another deck.
Blessed Be.
Waite was a Master Mason. If you know all the symbolism and teachings, you will see and understand more about the RW deck.
I want to point out to you, that more than few Kings, Princes, Presidents, Prime Ministers, in fact premiers of Countries, especially in the West, also Isreal, has certain qualifications they need to have, of which, being a Mason may be one!, in order to become the Leader of that Country.
In regard to this, you may want to research "the X-Factor", it's roots, influence and importance. This specifically also in the development of Hermitisism and the Golden Dawn.
I have a short article about it, but the topic is rather extensive. Furthermore, there are things, which can not be discussed at all.
Cas, at this stage i'm truly only a student with the Kaballah, I just don't want to take on too much at once. Using another deck that RW, will be impossible. I have physical limitations, and I just don't think it being productive for me at this stage to diverse into another deck.
Blessed Be.
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Hi Guys, and VOILA--SUCCESS!!! 
Have a look at the Golden Dawn's Hexagram, and one of a Kabbalist-based fraternity!
Here is the link;
http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B5y ... y=CLSpnJQF
Blessed be.
Have a look at the Golden Dawn's Hexagram, and one of a Kabbalist-based fraternity!
Here is the link;
http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B5y ... y=CLSpnJQF
Blessed be.
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