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Two Twenty Twos in chart.

Post by Twenty-Two » Tue Oct 23, 2007 4:30 am

Hey, what's going on. I need to know if I have to reduce the number 22 if it shows up as a personality number, or do I let it stay.

And if I do, is there any significance in having two 22's in your core chart because I have one as my life path; and the other as my Personality.

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Post by Sorrow » Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:52 am

Welcome to the club, dude, its all up to you, you can choose to live on high vibration of 22, or lower vibration of 4.
The first one is much more difficult, but in the end will bring greater rewards, turning dreams in to reality, unlimited potential, but again its up to you, I wish you luck.

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Post by Twenty-Two » Sat Oct 27, 2007 10:50 pm

Actually I have three 22's but I didn't count my 'Rational Thought' Number.


Thanks though, this will be a challenge I'm guessing.

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Post by drrnwynbchnbrgr » Thu Dec 06, 2007 4:02 am

the 22 is a power master number know as the master builder

The 22 is the most powerful of all numbers. It is often called the Master Builder. The 22 can turn the most ambitious of dreams into reality. It is potentially the most successful of all numbers. It has many of the inspirational insights of the 11, combined with the practicality and methodical nature of the 4. It is unlimited, yet disciplined. It sees the archetype, and brings it down to earth in some material form. It has big ideas, great plans, idealism, leadership, and enormous self-confidence. If not practical, the 22s waste their potential. Like the 11, the 22 can easily shrink from its own ambition, causing difficult interior pressures. Both the 11 and the 22 experience the pressure-cooker effect very strongly, particularly at an early age. It must work toward the realization of goals that are larger than personal ambition. The 22 serves the world in a practical way.

best of wishes stay focused my friend  a thought to end on try the power of affirmation  and for the positive vision of the four use the following

i find my greatest joy in working intelligently and willingly
i can be depended upon to persevere
until the job is done.
my efforts create order out of chaos,
both for myself and others

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22's

Post by moonlitestonight » Sun Dec 09, 2007 11:17 pm

I wouldn't reduce them.  You got some good info above on the #22.  I have found with 22/4 that the test is between reality and action (4) versus illusion, passivity and supersensitivity (2).  So finding the balance there is the key.  4's are rigid and can use the #2 which has definite people skills, tact, diplomacy, etc.  And 2's can use the 4 to give them direction and decisive power.  Hope this helps.   MLT

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Post by winamp » Tue Dec 11, 2007 2:39 pm

Hi, my dob is 1982/02/09. So my life path number is 22.
I just wanted to know have you ever counted number of 22s in a year.

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22's in year

Post by moonlitestonight » Tue Dec 11, 2007 8:38 pm

No, I have never done that.  It is interesting that you say you are a 22/4.  I count differently in all my numbers i.e.
1+9+8+2+2+9= 31/4!!!!!   That is what you would have been had I done your chart!!!  I have always counted like this.  Best of luck.   MLT

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Post by drrnwynbchnbrgr » Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:20 am

i like to add some favor to this post  the 1982-02-09  first of all i would write it out as day month year   2 /9/1982   or 2/9/2  reducing each number to its lowest terms first .in this way we also can see the period cycles coming in to play which will effect the life path as well .  and when you add 2+9+2 you then come up with a totally different double digit  13/4 being a karmic debt .all three will give you the number four .but thats were it stops and knowing that a karmic debt could be present can shed great insight into what is needed to make this four a positive out come

Those with the 13 Karmic Debt will work very hard to accomplish any task. Obstacles stand in their way, and must be overcome time and again. One may often feel burdened and frustrated by the seeming futility of one's efforts there may be a desire to surrender to the difficulties and simply give up on the goal, believing it was impossible to attain in the first place. Some with the 13 Karmic Debt fall to laziness and negativity. But efforts are not futile, and success is well within reach. One simply must work hard, and persevere in order to reach the goal. Many highly successful people in all walks of life, including business, art, and athletics, have a 13 Karmic Debt.

The key to succeeding wit the 13 is focus. Very often, people with the 13 Karmic Debt do not concentrate or direct their energies in one specific direction, or on a single task, but scatter their energies over many projects and jobs, none of which amount to very much. A temptation wit the 13 is to take shortcuts for quick success. Too often, that easy success doesn't come, causing regret and the desire to give up. The result is a poor self-image, and the belief that one is incapable of amounting to very much.

In order to focus, you must maintain order in your life. Order is essential to success. You must maintain a schedule, keep appointments, and follow through. Keep your environment neat and under control, and never procrastinate. If you sustain a steady and consistent effort, you will realize much reward.

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13/4

Post by moonlitestonight » Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:40 am

It is interesting how we all add and like you said it still adds up to 4 but with different numerical influences.  Thanks for the info on the 13/4 and its karmic debt.    MLT

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Post by winamp » Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:54 pm

1982+2+9=1993 . . .   1+9+9+3=22

I thought this is the way to add.

Which 1 is correct?

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Post by winamp » Thu Dec 13, 2007 1:18 pm

Is Richard Webster wrong?
I read that way to add dob from his book.

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Post by drrnwynbchnbrgr » Thu Dec 13, 2007 2:12 pm

winamp i use the charting method  shown on the web site decoz.com .i also have the software  ..in calculating the life path you have the option of which method to use . as shown in early post , all give you the same end result and that being the four  .but remember within that date of birth  month day year there lies cycles  similar to gears in a watch or a grandfather clock  all working together  also within that date you have the four challenge and pinnacle numbers and the three period cycles  .as stated early I always use the month day year method and i reduce each separate first  than add them together  example 11 /02 1963  the 11 is a master number so you dont reduce the11 ...so  11+2 than you reduce the year 1+9+6+3 =19/1 giving you 11+2+1  14/5 life path   i than also have been given my period cycles in doing  it in this method . i also chose this method because the day of birth is in the center and it has more bearing on you then the other two numbers .such as in a cell  the center being the strongest  or as with the human body the core strength comes from the stomach . numerology is a self help tool designed to help us see our true selves .
within lies the answers. from within the energy goes out, learn to control and change that energy ,than we can apply the law of attraction .

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Adding

Post by moonlitestonight » Thu Dec 13, 2007 5:16 pm

Some people add each digit like I do 1+9+8+2+2+9= 31/4; others add year, month, day = 2 (1982) + 2+9 = 13/4 and others add     1982
               2
               9
=      1993=  22/4

They all come out to 4.  I choose to continue adding the way I do as it felt right to me and in the zillion numerology books I have all three kinds of adding are used.  So I stuck with adding each separate digit.  I don't believe either are wrong or right, I just finally settled on the one way of adding.      MLT

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Post by winamp » Sat Dec 15, 2007 4:44 am

Thanks. I think i should keep my way. :)
I tried the decoz software before. There also were options to choose those way.

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Post by Sorrow » Wed Dec 19, 2007 1:55 pm

I have done research on a subject, because I' m 22 too.
The best on the world like decoz and gorman, calculate this way: you reduce day, month, year seperately, then you sum them up, adding all numbers together is wrong because it does reduce master numbers and is shouldnt.

So 2 9 1982 becomes 2 9 2 = 13/4 life path with karmic debt, most successful people have it

"Life Path 13
Your main purpose is to learn to express your emotions and creativity to reach your goals one
step at a time, as you follow your unique path. Your unique combination of creativity and your
need to express yourself allow you to build a foundation of stability. Creatively you may face
sensitive issues of self worth and ego.
Do not let the words of others bother you, and learn to be powerful through silence and your
action toward others. You will create a harmony that resonates through your being as you persist
in expressing your highest creativite abilities.
You will learn to establish the stability you require as you grow and mature. Eventually you come
to realize that your steady efforts result in more ground gained toward your goals then short
periods of intense energy.
Your highly creative skills will not let you down as your confident and expressive personality
exposes the successful and secure desire that you learn to make your own. You are good at
working on each step until you are finished.

Assets
In your most positive you have created a family and financial base from which to live your life.
Others respect you and you have learned to balance your analytical mind with the intuition of your
spiritual self.
You are known for completing every task and your honesty and stability provide excellent
examples to those around you. Their encouragement and security serve you throughout this
lifetime.
Talents
Your varied skills of creativity, expression and intelligence make you a valuable asset in many
fields: from real estate to engineering, physician to archeologist. Any type of work that provides
you with a chance to communicate and support others, such as coaching or teaching are also
good choices. You may have to learn the lesson of patience but eventually you will achieve your
goals.

Following the 13 Path
You are stable and secure in your actions and emotions. You may have mastered a sport or
artistic skill that has taught you the benefits of constant and consistent practice to move you
toward your goals. As you mature you find that your home and career provide you with just the
foundation you need to continue pursuing your creative abilities.
You are certain in your direction and this brings respect and compliments from others. Your
emotions are in balance with your thinking too; yet you do not let your abilities make you
"different" from others in any way that might alienate them. The respect, courage and strength
you have built are foundations for your intuitive and creative abilities as you express yourself in
perfect awareness throughout your life.

Famous 13 Life Path Birthdays
13, Sunday, January 3, 1926, George Martin
13, Sunday, January 5, 1969, Marilyn Manson
13, Sunday, January 6, 1878, Carl Sandburg
13, Saturday, January 7, 1922, Jean-Pierre Rampal
13, Monday, January 8, 1912, José Ferrer
13, Tuesday, January 11, 1972, Amanda Peet
13, Wednesday, January 12, 1944, Joe Frazier
13, Tuesday, January 12, 1926, Ray Price
13, Friday, January 13, 1961, Julia Louis-Dreyfus
13, Wednesday, January 13, 1943, Richard Moll
13, Tuesday, January 13, 1925, Gwen Verdon
13, Tuesday, January 14, 1969, Jason Bateman
13, Sunday, January 14, 1906, William Bendix
13, Thursday, January 23, 1969, Brendan Shanahan
13, Monday, January 23, 1933, Chita Rivera
13, Wednesday, January 24, 1968, Mary Lou Retton
13, Friday, January 24, 1941, Neil Diamond
13, Friday, January 24, 1941, Aaron Neville
13, Sunday, January 25, 1931, Dean Jones
13, Thursday, January 29, 1981, Jonny Lang
13, Friday, January 29, 1954, Oprah Winfrey
13, Monday, January 29, 1945, Tom Selleck
13, Tuesday, January 29, 1918, John Forsythe
13, Friday, February 2, 1962, Michael T. Weiss
13, Wednesday, February 2, 1944, Graham Nash
13, Sunday, February 3, 1907, James Michener
13, Sunday, February 4, 1906, Clyde W. Tombaugh
13, Thursday, February 5, 1914, William Burroughs
13, Tuesday, February 6, 1940, Tom Brokaw
13, Friday, February 6, 1931, Rip Torn
13, Friday, February 6, 1931, Mamie Van Doren
13, Thursday, February 6, 1913, Mary Leakey
13, Wednesday, February 6, 1895, Babe Ruth
13, Friday, February 8, 1974, Seth Green
13, Saturday, February 8, 1902, Lyle Talbot
13, Wednesday, February 9, 1955, Charles Shaughnessy
13, Thursday, February 9, 1928, Roger Mudd
13, Monday, February 9, 1874, Amy Lowell
13, Monday, February 12, 1934, Bill Russell
13, Friday, February 13, 1942, Peter Tork
13, Monday, February 13, 1933, Kim Novak
13, Sunday, February 14, 1932, Vic Morrow
13, Sunday, February 15, 1976, Brandon Boyd
13, Wednesday, February 15, 1967, Jane Child
13, Sunday, February 15, 1931, Claire Bloom
13, Monday, February 16, 1903, Edgar Bergen
13, Sunday, February 17, 1974, Jerry O’Connell
13, Sunday, February 17, 1974, Bryan White
13, Tuesday, February 18, 1964, Matt Dillon
13, Wednesday, February 21, 1979, Jennifer Love Hewitt
13, Sunday, February 21, 1943, David Geffen
13, Saturday, February 21, 1925, Sam Peckinpah
13, Thursday, February 26, 1920, Tony Randall
13, Monday, February 27, 1928, Ariel Sharon
13, Wednesday, March 1, 1944, Roger Daltrey
13, Friday, March 1, 1935, Robert Conrad
13, Monday, March 1, 1926, Pete Rozelle
13, Thursday, March 1, 1917, Dinah Shore
13, Sunday, March 2, 1952, Laraine Newman
13, Friday, March 4, 1932, Miriam Makeba
13, Wednesday, March 5, 1958, Andy Gibb
13, Sunday, March 5, 1922, James Noble
13, Thursday, March 6, 1930, Lorin Maazel
13, Sunday, March 7, 1875, Maurice Ravel
13, Friday, March 9, 1945, Robin Trower
13, Monday, March 9, 1936, Mickey Gilley
13, Saturday, March 9, 1918, Mickey Spillane
13, Monday, March 13, 1950, William H. Macy
13, Friday, March 15, 1912, Samuel "Lightnin’" Hopkins
13, Saturday, March 17, 1973, Caroline Corr
13, Tuesday, March 17, 1964, Rob Lowe
13, Thursday, March 17, 1955, Gary Sinise
13, Monday, March 17, 1919, Nat "King" Cole
13, Monday, March 18, 1963, Vanessa Williams
13, Wednesday, March 18, 1936, F.W. deKlerk
13, Friday, March 18, 1927, George Plimpton
13, Saturday, March 18, 1837, Grover Cleveland
13, Tuesday, March 19, 1935, Phyllis Newman
13, Monday, March 21, 1960, Ayrton Senna da Silva
13, Tuesday, March 23, 1976, Keri Russell
13, Monday, March 24, 1930, Steve McQueen
13, Thursday, March 25, 1965, Sarah Jessica Parker
13, Tuesday, March 25, 1947, Elton John
13, Thursday, March 25, 1920, Howard Cosell
13, Thursday, March 26, 1874, Robert Frost
13, Wednesday, March 27, 1963, Quentin Tarantino
13, Wednesday, March 27, 1963, Xuxa
13, Tuesday, March 28, 1944, Ken Howard
13, Tuesday, March 28, 1899, August Anheuser Busch, Jr.
13, Thursday, April 3, 1986, Amanda Bynes
13, Friday, April 3, 1959, David Hyde Pierce
13, Thursday, April 4, 1895, Arthur Murray
13, Tuesday, April 5, 1921, Gale Storm
13, Sunday, April 6, 1947, John Ratzenberger
13, Saturday, April 6, 1929, Andre Previn
13, Friday, April 6, 1866, Butch Cassidy
13, Tuesday, April 7, 1964, Russell Crowe
13, Saturday, April 7, 1928, James Garner
13, Monday, April 8, 1963, Julian Lennon
13, Monday, April 8, 1918, Betty Ford
13, Sunday, April 10, 1988, Haley Joel Osment
13, Thursday, April 10, 1952, Steven Seagal
13, Wednesday, April 12, 1950, David Cassidy
13, Thursday, April 12, 1923, Ann Miller
13, Tuesday, April 13, 1976, Jonathan Brandis
13, Thursday, April 15, 1452, Leonardo da Vinci
13, Saturday, April 16, 1955, Ellen Barkin
13, Wednesday, April 16, 1919, Merce Cunningham
13, Wednesday, April 17, 1918, William Holden
13, Thursday, April 19, 1979, Kate Hudson
13, Sunday, April 19, 1970, Luis Miguel Basteri
13, Sunday, April 19, 1925, Hugh O’Brian
13, Sunday, April 20, 1924, Nina Foch
13, Thursday, April 21, 1932, Elaine May
13, Saturday, April 25, 1964, Hank Azaria
13, Thursday, April 25, 1946, Talia Shire
13, Friday, April 26, 1963, Jet Li
13, Thursday, May 1, 1924, Terry Southern
13, Friday, May 6, 1955, Tom Bergeron
13, Tuesday, May 6, 1856, Sigmund Freud
13, Tuesday, May 6, 1856, Robert E. Peary
13, Wednesday, May 10, 1978, Kenan Thompson
13, Tuesday, May 10, 1960, Paul "Bono" Hewson
13, Thursday, May 10, 1888, Max Steiner
13, Friday, May 14, 1965, Jose Da Silveira
13, Saturday, May 15, 1937, Madeleine Albright
13, Saturday, May 15, 1937, Trini Lopez
13, Saturday, May 16, 1801, William Seward
13, Wednesday, May 20, 1959, Bronson Pinchot
13, Saturday, May 21, 1904, Fats Waller
13, Thursday, May 23, 1974, Jewel
13, Sunday, May 23, 1920, Helen O’Connell
13, Tuesday, May 24, 1955, Rosanne Cash
13, Saturday, May 25, 1963, Mike Myers
13, Monday, May 25, 1936, Tom T. Hall
13, Wednesday, May 25, 1927, Robert Ludlum
13, Saturday, May 25, 1918, Claude Akins
13, Monday, May 28, 1888, Jim Thorpe
13, Saturday, May 31, 1930, Clint Eastwood
13, Thursday, June 2, 1904, Johnny Weissmuller
13, Tuesday, June 5, 1928, Tony Richardson
13, Friday, June 14, 1946, Donald Trump
13, Saturday, June 15, 1963, Helen Hunt
13, Tuesday, June 15, 1954, Jim Belushi
13, Friday, June 19, 1896, Wallis Simpson
13, Tuesday, June 20, 1967, Nicole Kidman
13, Monday, June 20, 1949, Lionel Richie
13, Saturday, June 20, 1931, Martin Landau
13, Tuesday, June 21, 1921, Jane Russell
13, Sunday, June 28, 1491, Henry VIII, King of England
13, Saturday, July 1, 1967, Pamela Anderson
13, Wednesday, July 1, 1931, Leslie Caron
13, Wednesday, July 4, 1883, Rube Goldberg
13, Thursday, July 5, 1810, P.T. Barnum
13, Saturday, July 13, 1946, Cheech Marin
13, Friday, July 13, 1928, Bob Crane
13, Thursday, July 14, 1927, John Chancellor
13, Sunday, July 14, 1918, Ingmar Bergman
13, Wednesday, July 19, 1922, George McGovern
13, Wednesday, July 21, 1920, Isaac Stern
13, Friday, July 21, 1911, Marshall McLuhan
13, Sunday, July 23, 1972, Marlon Wayans
13, Thursday, July 23, 1936, Don Drysdale
13, Tuesday, July 23, 1918, Harold "Pee Wee" Reese
13, Sunday, July 28, 1940, Phil Proctor
13, Monday, July 30, 1956, Delta Burke
13, Wednesday, July 30, 1947, Arnold Schwarzenegger
13, Friday, July 31, 1964, Jim Corr
13, Thursday, July 31, 1919, Curt Gowdy
13, Sunday, August 2, 1992, Hallie Eisenberg
13, Friday, August 2, 1974, Jeremy Castle
13, Saturday, August 4, 1900, Elizabeth, The Queen Mother
13, Saturday, August 4, 1792, Percy Bysshe Shelley
13, Friday, August 19, 1921, Gene Roddenberry
13, Thursday, August 28, 1930, Ben Gazzara
13, Monday, August 30, 1982, Andy Roddick
13, Thursday, August 30, 1973, Lisa Ling
13, Thursday, August 31, 1972, Chris Tucker
13, Friday, August 31, 1945, Van Morrison
13, Friday, August 31, 1945, Itzhak Perlman
13, Saturday, August 31, 1918, Alan Jay Lerner
13, Wednesday, September 1, 1875, Edgar Rice Burroughs
13, Wednesday, September 2, 1964, Keanu Reeves
13, Tuesday, September 10, 1974, Ryan Phillippe
13, Tuesday, September 10, 1929, Arnold Palmer
13, Sunday, September 12, 1954, Peter Scolari
13, Thursday, September 20, 1928, Dr. Joyce Brothers
13, Thursday, September 21, 1972, Liam Gallagher
13, Thursday, September 21, 1972, David Silveria
13, Wednesday, September 30, 1981, Dominique Moceanu
13, Sunday, October 3, 1971, Kevin Richardson
13, Thursday, October 4, 1979, Rachael Leigh Cook
13, Friday, October 5, 1951, Karen Allen
13, Thursday, October 6, 1887, Le Corbusier
13, Wednesday, October 7, 1931, Bishop Desmond Tutu
13, Friday, October 11, 1918, Jerome Robbins
13, Saturday, October 12, 1935, Luciano Pavarotti
13, Saturday, October 13, 1934, Nana Mouskouri
13, Tuesday, October 13, 1925, Lenny Bruce
13, Tuesday, October 13, 1925, Margaret Thatcher
13, Thursday, October 15, 1959, Sarah Ferguson
13, Thursday, October 15, 1959, Emeril Lagasse
13, Thursday, October 16, 1958, Tim Robbins
13, Friday, October 17, 1930, Jimmy Breslin
13, Monday, October 17, 1921, Tom Poston
13, Thursday, October 18, 1956, Martina Navratilova
13, Saturday, October 18, 1947, Laura Nyro
13, Tuesday, October 18, 1938, Dawn Wells
13, Sunday, October 21, 1917, Dizzy Gillespie
13, Friday, October 23, 1942, Michael Crichton
13, Friday, October 25, 1940, Bobby Knight
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13, Tuesday, October 31, 1961, Larry Mullen, Jr.
13, Sunday, November 1, 1981, LaTavia Roberson
13, Wednesday, November 1, 1972, Jenny McCarthy
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13, Friday, December 1, 1944, John Densmore
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13, Saturday, December 3, 1960, Julianne Moore
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