Am I 11 or 2??

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Am I 11 or 2??

Post by Autumn Rose » Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:11 am

Is it 9+5+1+9+8+6 or 9+5+6 or 9+5(=14=5)+6??

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Post by enumero123 » Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:18 pm

your date of date is as follows sept 5 1986 .  9+5+1+9+8+6 or 9/5/6  depending on how you add the following numbers can be included    39/11  20/2  when assessing your life path number  all of the following energy vibrations such be taken into consideration 39 ,20 ,11,2  


39 It likes functional art. It is often in acting and dancing. It has difficulty with rejection and separation.  

20 It is overly sensitive, intuitive, and vulnerable to criticism. It has emotional problems. It can show weakness and cowardice in the face of challenges.

11  Highly intuitive, even psychic, this Master number is a channel between the sub-conscious and the conscious mind. Highly charged. Can be neurotic.

Master numbers because they possess more potential than other numbers. They are highly charged, difficult to handle, and require time, maturity, and great effort to integrate into one's personality.

The 11 is the most intuitive of all numbers. It represents illumination; a channel to the subconscious; insight without rational thought; and sensitivity, nervous energy, shyness, and impracticality. It is a dreamer. The 11 has all the aspects of the 2, enhanced and charged with charisma, leadership, and inspiration. It is a number with inborn duality, which creates dynamism, inner conflict, and other catalyses with its mere presence. It is a number that, when not focused on some goal beyond itself, can be turned inward to create fears and phobias. The 11 walks the edge between greatness and self-destruction. Its potential for growth, stability, and personal power lies in its acceptance of intuitive understanding, and of spiritual truths. For the 11, such peace is not found so much in logic, but in faith. It is the psychic's number.

and of course the 2


the following is reference two the 2 life path

The key word in your nature is peacemaker. You have the soul of an artist. You are extremely sensitive, perceptive, and a bit shy. These qualities are both your strengths and weaknesses, for while you possess enormous sensitivity to your feelings and those of others, that same sensitivity can cause you to hold back and repress your considerable talents. Sensitivity and perceptiveness are among your many fine qualities.

Because you intuitively know what people want, or feel, you can be extremely diplomatic and tactful. You are also patient and cooperative. You work well with groups and somehow find a way of creating harmony among diverse opinions.

You enjoy music and poetry and require a harmonious environment.

You have an eye for beauty and a fine sense of balance and rhythm. You have healing capabilities, especially in such fields as massage, acupuncture, physical therapy, and counseling.

However, your sensitivity can also be your downfall. Your extremely delicate ego bruises easily and can make too much of someone else's thoughtless remarks or criticisms. Because you get hurt easily, you may tend to withhold your own thoughts and contributions to the matter at hand. This can cause you considerable resentment and anger.

Too often, you run from confrontation to avoid a battle.

When you employ your considerable inner strength, you will discover your enormous power and abilities to direct difficult situations toward your own goals. It is the awareness of your inner strength that will give you the courage to use your own personal power when it is needed. You are a sensitive and passionate lover, your perceptiveness makes you aware of your partner's needs and desires, which you are able to fulfill with almost magical delicacy.

However, when you feel you have been mistreated or jilted, you can react with devastating power, sometimes using personal criticisms vindictively. Your awareness, diplomatic skills, and organizational talents give you the ability to bring off difficult tasks. You willingly step out of the limelight to facilitate the success of your endeavor. In truth, you are often the power behind the throne. However, you do not always receive the credit you deserve for the fine work you've done, or your role is underestimated and your accomplishments overlooked. Rather than brood over your losses, you need to confront those who would make less of your contributions and stand up for your accomplishments. You need security and comfort, quiet settings, and the company of loved ones. You are a perfectionist when it comes to your home and work environment. You have excellent taste which is obvious in your private surroundings. You are a fine companion and possess a good sense of humor. Friends seek you out for your calming and peaceful company. You are a safe haven to other sensitive people, who recognize your compassion and understanding. When you have found your niche in life, you have all the talents and intelligence for great success. Seek out work that allows your sensitive nature to flourish - be the glue that binds others together.

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Post by enumero123 » Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:19 pm

your date of date is as follows sept 5 1986 .  date of birth sorry  lol

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Post by Autumn Rose » Fri Jun 18, 2010 8:33 pm

Thank you very much for your response. So you are supposed to look at all of the possible outcomes for the final number? There is no correct or incorrect way to determine what your life path is? And the first result you got, 39, I think it is supposed to be 38. Do you know what 38 means? Thank you again for your help!

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Post by enumero123 » Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:53 pm

yes you are right it is 38  sorry

38 It is more realistic.then the 11  It is very intuitive, but will not easily admit that. It often earns in the sale of art or antiques. It has phobias.  

there is no correct or incorrect way to determine what your life path is?

depending on the system you follow  one is known as a fadic system of adding   9+5+1+9+8+6=  38/11/2   the other claims that the date of birth sept /5 /1986 are three different numbers so the year must first be reduced to a 6 .   and yes all three numbers can add insight into the meaning of the vibrations ....

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Post by enumero123 » Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:06 pm

i would read you as a 20/2 ..... 9 /5/6  9+5+6 =20  which reduces to 2   i would see you as having a 2 life path  


20 It is overly  sensitive, intuitive, and vulnerable to criticism. It has emotional problems. It can show weakness and cowardice in the face of challenges.


the key word in your nature is peacemaker. You have the soul of an artist. You are extremely sensitive, perceptive, and a bit shy. These qualities are both your strengths and weaknesses, for while you possess enormous sensitivity to your feelings and those of others, that same sensitivity can cause you to hold back and repress your considerable talents. Sensitivity and perceptiveness are among your many fine qualities.

Because you intuitively know what people want, or feel, you can be extremely diplomatic and tactful. You are also patient and cooperative. You work well with groups and somehow find a way of creating harmony among diverse opinions.

You enjoy music and poetry and require a harmonious environment.

You have an eye for beauty and a fine sense of balance and rhythm. You have healing capabilities, especially in such fields as massage, acupuncture, physical therapy, and counseling.

However, your sensitivity can also be your downfall. Your extremely delicate ego bruises easily and can make too much of someone else's thoughtless remarks or criticisms. Because you get hurt easily, you may tend to withhold your own thoughts and contributions to the matter at hand. This can cause you considerable resentment and anger.

Too often, you run from confrontation to avoid a battle.

When you employ your considerable inner strength, you will discover your enormous power and abilities to direct difficult situations toward your own goals. It is the awareness of your inner strength that will give you the courage to use your own personal power when it is needed. You are a sensitive and passionate lover, your perceptiveness makes you aware of your partner's needs and desires, which you are able to fulfill with almost magical delicacy.

However, when you feel you have been mistreated or jilted, you can react with devastating power, sometimes using personal criticisms vindictively. Your awareness, diplomatic skills, and organizational talents give you the ability to bring off difficult tasks. You willingly step out of the limelight to facilitate the success of your endeavor. In truth, you are often the power behind the throne. However, you do not always receive the credit you deserve for the fine work you've done, or your role is underestimated and your accomplishments overlooked. Rather than brood over your losses, you need to confront those who would make less of your contributions and stand up for your accomplishments. You need security and comfort, quiet settings, and the company of loved ones. You are a perfectionist when it comes to your home and work environment. You have excellent taste which is obvious in your private surroundings. You are a fine companion and possess a good sense of humor. Friends seek you out for your calming and peaceful company. You are a safe haven to other sensitive people, who recognize your compassion and understanding. When you have found your niche in life, you have all the talents and intelligence for great success. Seek out work that allows your sensitive nature to flourish - be the glue that binds others together.

but remember your life path   just as it suggest is about the journey ,and its the path that will bring you the best results , your name gives deeper insight into personalities

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Post by enumero123 » Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:37 pm

some numerologist only refer to single digit numbers 1-9

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Post by saikikudh » Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:17 pm

wow cool

i'm an 11 and some of the things you wrote about the 11 reflects on me.
but
also some of the things in the 2

i'm an artistic person, at least i want to go in that direction with my career.

i'm from 23/3/1983

so how do i calculate it

23+3+1+9+8+3 = 29 = 11 right ? or 2
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Post by enumero123 » Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:21 pm

3/23/1983   3+2+3+1+9+8+3 = 29/11   or reduce day/month /year    3/5/3  3+5+3=11 or 1983+23+3=2009 2+9=11

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Post by enumero123 » Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:35 pm

in your case regardless of how you calculate  your date of birth  11 does appear    many times this is not the case   in my case 11/02/1963  1+1+2+1+9+6+3 =23 or
11/2/1  11+2+1=14/5  one method gives me a 23 the other 14/5 karmic debt number  which would have been missed using the first method  the presence  of the 14/5 is important and indicates  a warning  which the 23/5 does not show  ...

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Post by saikikudh » Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:46 pm

wow cool

lots of 11 in my case. is that good or bad.

and what is the karmic debt you were talking about in the previous post?
and how can i calculate mine, and what is the meaning of the karmic debt.

i have to read another post maybe in this forum to find about karmic debt
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Post by enumero123 » Thu Jul 15, 2010 1:00 pm

numbers are vibrations , these vibrations can be either good or bad   all depends on how use  and deal with them ... the 11 being master level energy can be hard to deal with .

   11  Highly intuitive, even psychic, this Master number is a channel between the sub-conscious and the conscious mind. Highly charged. Can be neurotic.

The 11 is the most intuitive of all numbers. It represents illumination; a channel to the subconscious; insight without rational thought; and sensitivity, nervous energy, shyness, and impracticality. It is a dreamer. The 11 has all the aspects of the 2, enhanced and charged with charisma, leadership, and inspiration. It is a number with inborn duality, which creates dynamism, inner conflict, and other catalyses with its mere presence. It is a number that, when not focused on some goal beyond itself, can be turned inward to create fears and phobias. The 11 walks the edge between greatness and self-destruction. Its potential for growth, stability, and personal power lies in its acceptance of intuitive understanding, and of spiritual truths. For the 11, such peace is not found so much in logic, but in faith. It is the psychic's number.

as for as karmic debt numbers  13, 14 16 19  doing a full chart can show were these numbers might show up .....

13:    Hard work and slow progress, this Karmic Debt number is difficult but rewarding when enough effort is applied. Grounded and down-to-earth. Reliable, trustworthy, but sometimes rigid and lacking a sense of humor.

Those with the 13 Karmic Debt will work very hard to accomplish any task. Obstacles stand in their way, and must be overcome time and again. One may often feel burdened and frustrated by the seeming futility of one's efforts there may be a desire to surrender to the difficulties and simply give up on the goal, believing it was impossible to attain in the first place. Some with the 13 Karmic Debt fall to laziness and negativity. But efforts are not futile, and success is well within reach. One simply must work hard, and persevere in order to reach the goal. Many highly successful people in all walks of life, including business, art, and athletics, have a 13 Karmic Debt.

The key to succeeding wit the 13 is focus. Very often, people with the 13 Karmic Debt do not concentrate or direct their energies in one specific direction, or on a single task, but scatter their energies over many projects and jobs, none of which amount to very much. A temptation wit the 13 is to take shortcuts for quick success. Too often, that easy success doesn't come, causing regret and the desire to give up. The result is a poor self-image, and the belief that one is incapable of amounting to very much.

In order to focus, you must maintain order in your life. Order is essential to success. You must maintain a schedule, keep appointments, and follow through. Keep your environment neat and under control, and never procrastinate. If you sustain a steady and consistent effort, you will realize much reward.


14: A wild streak. Need for change and adventure can destroy carefully planned progress. Lack of focus and commitment. This Karmic Debt number can get you in trouble. Guard against self-indulgence.

The 14 Karmic Debt arises from previous lifetimes during which human freedom has been abused. Those with a 14 Karmic Debt are forced to adapt to ever-changing circumstances and unexpected occurrences. There is an acute danger of falling victim to abuse of drugs, alcohol, and overindulgence in sensual pleasures, such as food and sex. You must put the reins on yourself. Modesty in all affairs is crucial to overcoming this Karmic Debt.

Also important is the need to maintain order in life, and to establish one's own emotional stability. you must also be willing to adapt to the unexpected occurrences of life, all the while maintaining your focus on your goals and dreams. Flexibility and adaptability are at the very core of this struggle.
Orderliness in one's immediate environment is crucial to maintaining clarity and focus. Mental and emotional stability must be attained in order to avoid being thrown about by the changing fortunes in the external environment.

But the key to the 14 Karmic Debt is commitment. Life will resemble a roller coaster ride, but it will always travel in the right direction if one's heart is set on what is true and good. Set yourself a high goal, maintain order wherever possible in your life, avoid excessive sensory indulgence, and maintain faith. Above all, do not give up on your dreams and goals.
Those with the 14 Karmic Debt will experience life to the fullest, and as long as they maintain a high dream, they will achieve success and great spiritual development.


16 Difficult, especially during the early part of life. Great potential for spiritual  growth and self-knowledge. This Karmic Debt numbers reflects "The Fallen Tower" in Tarot. Can be self-destructive.

The 16 Karmic Debt - wherever it shows up on the chart - means destruction of the old and birth of the new. The 16 is about the fall of the ego, and all that it has built for itself. It is a watershed, a cleansing. All that has been constructed, and all that serves to separate the person from the source of life is destroyed. Through the 16, reunion with the great spirit is accomplished.
This can be a painful process, because it usually comes after much ego inflation. This results in a struggle between the ego and the divine will. Life presents challenges to your grand plans, which can be resented and struggled against. It is a lost battle, and you will likely feel humbled in the face of the collapse that follows. This humility is the key to later success, however, because you will learn to follow the intimations of a higher reality. In the destruction of the old, a spiritual rebirth takes place with an entirely new awareness. This rebirth affects every area of your life. It is a life much the better for the fall.

Those with the 16 Karmic Debt must be careful of egotism. Very often, those with the 16 use their highly intuitive and refined intellect to look down upon others, and view the rest of the world as inferior. This causes acute alienation and loneliness. In addition, it invites retribution, for the egotist is humbled more harshly than any other.
When the 16 is in one of the core numbers, this process of destruction and rebirth is a continual cycle that actually serves to bring you into higher consciousness and closer union with the source of life.

The 16 Karmic Debt can be a path of progress and great spiritual growth if it is looked at properly. One develops great faith by placing one's life in the hands of God. Through such faith, gratitude and peace are firmly established.

19 Strong and individualistic. Self-reliant and confident, this Karmic Debt number can bring loneliness and alienation. Leadership. Sometimes bullish.
The person with the 19 Karmic Debt will learn independence and the proper use of power. You will be forced to stand up for yourself, and often be left to stand alone. Difficulties will be faced and overcome through personal struggle.

One of the central lessons for people with the 19 Karmic Debt is that you stubbornly resist help. Much of your independence is self-imposed; you simply don't want to listen to others, or to accept the help or advice of others.
The 19 Karmic Debt can become a self imposed prison if you do not open up to the reality of interdependence, and the mutual need for love.

The most important lesson for the 19 Karmic Debt is: While you seek to stand on your own feet, you are still a human being, deeply connected with others and in need of the support, assistance, and human understanding that all people need. Those with the 19 Karmic Debt will learn the hard way that "no man is an island," and that we are, indeed, "all bits of the main!"

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Post by Autumn Rose » Fri Jul 16, 2010 11:02 pm

The only thing I disagree with about the 2 is how it says that I am overly sensitive, vulnerable to criticism, and my ego bruises easily. Not to sound too cocky or anything, but there is no way my ego could be bruised, and I am such a far more critical person than anyone could ever be of me. They aren't telling me anything I don't already know and if they are I don't take it personally. I listen to them and if I think they are right I fix it. But everything else was right on point. I think my eye for beauty comes FROM my critical eye. I am a hairstylist and I am very ocd about my haircuts.

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Post by enumero123 » Sun Jul 18, 2010 8:39 pm

there are many numbers that make up our charts but i would like to focus on the two for a moment


image : diplomat- cooperation
desire : peace- partnership-balance

pattern : gestation -duality

positive expression key words:  feminine balance diplomatic adaptable rhythmic gentle harmonious receptive aware of details considerate sensitive friendly companionship
tactful peacemaker kind thoughtful psychic ability considerate cooperative reflective....

negative expression key words : dependent self pity too emotional too sensitive meddling arbitrary careless strident extremist dishonest overlooks detail creates divisiveness
resentful unforgiving

denial expression key words: insensitive/rude overly concerned about detail faultfinding vacillating

as a symbol of duality -the universe of opposites in which we live -the 2 stands alongside the 1 , offering a perspective of balance to 1s narrow point of view .the 2 individual is able to see both sides of the equation through a fine discernment of details. often beyond conscious awareness .

the 2s highly emotional nature can often grasp the subtleties of human interaction where the intellect alone is lost . this therefore the 2 is able to bridge the chasm of misunderstanding and become a peacemaker . indeed ,the 2 desires peace and harmony in all relationships and can be in danger of self denial or meddling in order to bring about about this desired condition .

a 2 energy .in a positive mode .is perfect partner and companion ,soothing the way with a desire for mutual cooperation .the 2 adapts easily to situations where a more rigid or focused vibration is unable to go  ..

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Post by enumero123 » Sun Jul 18, 2010 8:46 pm

"The only thing I disagree with about the 2 is how it says that I am overly sensitive, vulnerable to criticism, and my ego bruises easily. Not to sound too cocky or anything, but there is no way my ego could be bruised, and I am such a far more critical person than anyone could ever be of me. They aren't telling me anything I don't already know and if they are I don't take it personally. I listen to them and if I think they are right I fix it. But everything else was right on point. I think my eye for beauty comes FROM my critical eye. I am a hairstylist and I am very ocd about my haircuts."    

im sorry but the possibility is likely if your were offended hurt and a negative energy vibration was present  the opposite of peace  is war

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