Is sin relative or absolute?

[dattaswami]

Is sin relative or absolute?

When a good soul suffers due to the behavior of you, you are getting the sin. Therefore, sin is absolute in its fundamental sense.


At the Lotus Feet of His Holiness Sri Dattaswami

Anil Antony

[xmasbb]

I don't have the answer to that. I don't even know if "sin" is a dirty word. We all make mistakes. We all learn and grow from them whether we realize it at the time or not. We're all beautifully and uniquely imperfect. As an artist and photographer I think it is our very "flaws" that make us so fascinating.

[brittdun]

I believe sin is relative. I believe it's all relative to the situation surrounding your world at the time at which the sin occured.

[Omjit_23]

Can you first tell me what is SIN?
Does it exist?
I see around and I see only so-called sinners are having a full-fledged happy life. and the poor soul suffers.
So doesn't it sound like Grapes are sour.

[Rhutobello]

When a stone can't fly and neither can a human...then a human must be a stone in its fundamental sense.

Just like this is a dumb statement so is the original.
There are so many different factors to take into account.

[Omjit_23]

Can you please be elaborate on this point rhutobello.

[Omjit_23]

by diferent circumstances what do u actually mean?
If one person kills chicken for his food it is not a sin.
And when a poor person steals then he is  a sinner.
Why is this discrimination?
So, you mean that people at authority have alicense to do anything?

[Rhutobello]

Can you please be elaborate on this point rhutobello.

Well...it's a simple equation...used by a play of Ludvig Holberg around year 1800. He reproved many of the scholar on that time who delivered easy solutions or believed they was better then most.

In short.....you take some equalities from different objects and then make a conclusion without see the whole thing.

A stone can't fly
A human can't fly
Since both can't fly they must be equal...so a human is a stone...or a stone is a human.

The same is done by our Author of this thread.

He don't take science truth.....but belief truth
Then he say that if A = B then all must be C

He don't take into account anything else and that's why I call for my stone theory

[Omjit_23]

So whats the relation between a sinner and  ur stone theory?
Stone is a stone.
And don't we all commit sins everyday?
May be a tiny sin but still its the sin if you think it that way.
And what is a "SIN" by the way?
Its all in the perception I guess.
I like to eat fish, but a vegetarian will say wow u committed a sin by killing the fish.
But is it really a sin?

[Vishwas]

It is all in the eye of the beholder.

But truly I beleive, u do know what the sins are Omjit, & as long as a person doesn't do it, I don't see anything wrong in them.

[Vishwas]

For everyone's ease I have posted the Seven Sins here, they are:

1 Lust.
2 Gluttony.
3 Greed/Avarice.
4 Sloth/Laziness.
5 Wrath/Anger.
6 Envy/Jealousy.
7 Pride.

[Rhutobello]

So whats the relation between a sinner and  ur stone theory?
Stone is a stone.
And don't we all commit sins everyday?
May be a tiny sin but still its the sin if you think it that way.
And what is a "SIN" by the way?
Its all in the perception I guess.
I like to eat fish, but a vegetarian will say wow u committed a sin by killing the fish.
But is it really a sin?

Look at his statement:

When a good soul suffers due to the behavior of you, you are getting the sin. Therefore, sin is absolute in its fundamental sense.

He takes one thing we all can agree on and then make a conclusion that has room for a lot of discussion.....just like the stone theory

We can agree that doing sin against a good person makes you a sinner.

But are you a sinner if you kill a terrorist who will kill other.
You do a sin against the terrorist...but a good deed against other, so this show that a sin is not absolute in its fundamental sense.

This you can do with all sin, and it show that there are many colors in the nterpretation of what is a sin.

This will change from society to society.
If you take a tribe of cannibals, who always have eaten human flesh, you can't say they live in sin, because due to their social life this is the way they live., for them it's normal and they have no regret from it.[/u]

And for your statement:
So whats the relation between a sinner and  ur stone theory?
Stone is a stone.

The stone theory is great, because it is dumb...it has nothing to do with stone or human...or anything....it just show how dumb it is, if you take two "parts" then compare them 1 time and find equality and from that state a conclusion. Just like the Author of this thread does.