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Is Fate and Destiny Different. Can we change our Fate and Destiny

Post by Pravin Kumar » Thu Jun 19, 2014 6:37 am

Is Fate Predetermined?
by PL Chang Some people say fate is like destiny, because we cannot change it. Is there such a thing as fate or destiny? The definition of fate is that you can change it through perseverance and hard work whereas destiny is predetermined; therefore, it cannot be altered.
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Post by spiritalk » Thu Jun 19, 2014 6:06 pm

There is no fate or destiny!  There is only your own actions in each experience, which opens the next step and the next.  Nothing has been decided for you before life.  Life in the now and you can identify and live your experiences to the fullest.
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Post by Pravin Kumar » Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:20 pm

Spiritalk,

I agree with you totally. I read this piece in Facebook and was wondering how does this person differentiate between Fate and Destiny. Here it is:

Some people say fate is like destiny, because we cannot change it. I say people who believe that they cannot change fate lack the knowledge and wisdom to understand what life and reality are.

Let us explore the difference between fate and destiny, so that we can come to an understanding of what fate is and if fate is predetermined.

The definition of fate is that you can change it through perseverance and hard work whereas destiny is predetermined; therefore, it cannot be altered.

Is there such a thing as fate or destiny?

To answer this question that concerns the meaning of fate and destiny, I will need to explain to you how the future works.

Through many years of studying spirituality and science (I’m not talking about religion-based spirituality and dogmatic science), I have found many secrets about how reality works, which have allowed me to find answers to some of life’s most fundamental questions. If you want to understand how reality works at the most fundamental levels, read my earlier article titled Understanding the Magic of Nature and Embracing It to Make Life Fun, Happy and Enjoyable Again.

The future is fluid-like, not stone-like. In other words, the future is not written in stone. However, there is an exception. I will explain that exception in the last section of this article.

The past, present and future are all happening simultaneously or at the same time. From our perspective, the past is something that has already happened. The present is something that is happening as you read this article. Like the past, the future is something that has already happened too. However, the future has infinite possibilities. Remember, the past, present and future are all happening at the same time. For you to understand how reality and fate work, you need to understand that the true nature of time is simultaneous.

How is this possible, you may ask? Because time behaves more like an illusion. It can speed up or slow down. More importantly, time is not linear. This is what most modern scientists fail to understand, which is why they have such a hard time understanding how reality works.

Here is a video that does a great job explaining how reality works. I do not agree with everything in this video, but I do agree with its claim that matter behaves like an illusion.

The Secret Beyond Matter

Time is not constant

Scientific studies have concluded that when you travel very fast, you age slower. As you approach near the speed of light, the slower you age. This proves that time is not constant. Have you ever had a dramatic experience, such as a car accident, where time slowed down and you see your life flash before your eyes? Time slows down because your senses become hyper-sensitive during a dramatic experience, which allows you to process information faster than normal, causing time to slow down.

It is important to understand that time is not linear but simultaneous. The reason why we experience time in a linear fashion is due to the fact that we have not evolved enough to the point where we can experience time in a simultaneous state. At our current level of evolution, experiencing time in a simultaneous state would be very chaotic to us. We, as human beings, still have a lot of evolving to do. By experiencing time in a linear fashion, it allows us to experience life in a way that we can understand, so that we can evolve and one day become creators ourselves!

The three forces of Creation (God) inside you are proof that you are a creator yourself

Creation gave you Its most precious gifts when It created you. Those priceless gifts are love, thought and consciousness.

What is love?

Love is not just a feeling. At the deeper levels, love is a harmonic conscious energy that attracts everything into oneness. It is a form of energy that is always vibrating toward balance and harmony. When people are attracted to each other, it is mostly because their energy resonates. When their energy does not resonate, they lack the chemistry to attract. Love is the energy that holds the Cosmos together and is one of the fundamental things that motivates Creation to create things.

What is thought?

One of the most powerful energy forces in the Cosmos is thought. This force is so powerful that it has the power to manifest energy into matter. Physical manifestation is nothing more than an end result of focused thought. Here is an excerpt from my book Staradigm about the power of thought.

   Thought is a conscious energy that has the potential of thinking within and upon itself, giving us the ability of free will. It is needed to focus everything into existence. Most of us do not realize that when we use our thoughts, we are preparing energy to be manifested into matter. In other words, we are creating our reality. We cannot see our creation being instantaneously manifested in front of our eyes because of the restriction of linear time. The idea of time being linear is an illusion and is only true from our perspective. As human beings, we have not yet evolved enough to handle the amount of data that comes with experiencing time in a simultaneous state. In our current state of evolution, experiencing time simultaneously would feel very chaotic to us. The fact that we have thought is an indication that we are very powerful beings who have the power to create.

For more information about the power of thought, read my empowering article titled How to Manifest Your Desires With the Power of Thought.

What is consciousness?

Consciousness is a creative energy force that exists in all things. In essence, consciousness is an informational field of awareness and feedback that gives you a sense of self. This informational field is conscious of itself and is made of subtle energy. It is a field of pure potentiality; thus, it has infinite possibility and creativity. Through the power of consciousness, vibration and frequency are achieved.

Consciousness uses vibration and frequency to create light, which is why light has vibration and frequency. Vibration and frequency give characteristics to what is being expressed through consciousness. Vibration and frequency are very important for your well-being, because your body and soul depend on them to function. Two of the most important things to know about consciousness are that it has infinite potential and it is found in everything, even in the four elements (fire, earth, air and water).

The fact that you have love, thought and consciousness is proof that you can change your fate

The fact that you have love, thought and consciousness is proof that you are a spiritual being with infinite potential, and you have the power to become a creator yourself; therefore, you have the power to change your fate. Do not ever forget this. Otherwise, you become vulnerable to the dark forces who only want to enslave your soul.

If you want to be happy in life, take responsibility and be in charge of your life so that you can take control of your fate. Study and try to understand the knowledge and wisdom in this article, because I wrote it for the purpose of helping you take control of your fate. It would be wise to not allow people and society to brainwash you into believing that you are destined to suffer. The idea that you are destined to suffer or cannot change your fate is a tool that certain rich, spiritual leaders, shamans, psychics and elders use to control you, whether they realize it or not.

The future behaves like a magical tree

The future has infinite possibilities. Think of the future like it is a magical tree with billions of leaves and branches that keep on multiplying for eternity. The branches act like the paths that you take in life, and the leaves are like events or destination points in time. The free will choices that you make in life are what are going to determine which leaf or leaves you end up on. In other words, your future is determined by your free will choices. You are exactly where you are in life because of the choices you made, not because of fate or destiny.

The one thing that can determine your future is when you pass the critical mass point. For example, imagine walking on an old thin bridge on top of two high cliffs. You know that the bridge may not hold your weight, but you decided to take the risk and walk on it since it is the shortest route. As you walk across the bridge, you hear the bridge snap and you fall to your death. The exact moment when the bridge snaps is known as the critical mass point. Once you reach this point, your fate is determined and nothing you do will save you from falling to your death or change your fate.

Some people may say this means that fate is predetermined. What they do not realize is that you made the free will choice to take the shortest route. If you had gone around it, or went back the way you came from and found another path, you could have prevented this tragedy from occurring. In our version of reality, everyone is destined to die. However, we do have great control over this destiny, because we can choose how to live our lives before our last breath. Even when we die, our soul and spirit will live on; therefore, death is another illusion. Your soul/spirit is who you truly are, not your physical body.

Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness are your unalienable rights (God given rights)

The concept of destiny and fate is society’s way of controlling you and preventing you from ever evolving to the spiritual being that you are capable of becoming. Remember, life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness are your unalienable rights (God given rights). Do not allow destiny or fate to give you the illusion of taking away your unalienable rights.

So, live your life with dreams, passion, inspiration and laughter, and live it the way you want to, instead of allowing people to tell you that your fate is predetermined and that you should therefore accept it and suffer. Creation gave you the precious power of free will; use it wisely so that you can change your fate and be happy in life.

This article originally appeared at OmniThought.org.
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Astrology can change destiny into fate.

Post by bablibinjola » Sat Jun 27, 2015 7:54 am

Both fate and destiny are really different as fate is decided by god we can't change it, but destiny is the one which be can influence according to our choice. Astrology helps to change fate into destiny e.g. best kamdev mantra for love creates a field with makes you meet your true soul-mate by fate.

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Re: Astrology can change destiny into fate. (Oh, Can it?)

Post by Rohiniranjan » Wed Jul 08, 2015 1:41 pm

bablibinjola wrote:Both fate and destiny are really different as fate is decided by god we can't change it, but destiny is the one which be can influence according to our choice. Astrology helps to change fate into destiny e.g. best kamdev mantra for love creates a field with makes you meet your true soul-mate by fate.
Fate, destiny, karma and a dozen (more?) such terms and concepts have been creatively conjured up (sounds better than saying 'imagined'?) by human beings over the many centuries (millennia?) and those of faith-based pursuits who get incensed at the ancient terms and concepts being questioned get upset when such questioning ensues. They have this archaic and puritanical sense and confusion about questioning being a form of disrespect! This old school mentality still flourishes in 2015 and is entirely unnecessary! Human mind is essentially curious, explorative and without these attributes simply decays and like stagnant pools of water end up being lively, life-giving and nourishing. Unless one is a mosquito, of course!

Religion and faith which tends to be rigid too in order to survive has historically changed, diversified and so we have so many branches and forms of all traditional religious systems. And then divisions within each religion. All of these evolutions of religion are because human mind in order to stay healthy and alive must explore and find new ways, new concepts, new explanations and new understanding of essentially stale terms and concepts that have failed to capture reality in step with the evolution of the human mind!

Astrology does not *change* anything by itself. It is just a road-map and in a sense a weather-map. It allows one to gauge the trends and times and directions that someone can choose to follow. It can also mentally prepare one for good and bad weather conditions in life. Intertwined with free-will is the layer of influence of what some call karma and bhagya, the latter being believed to have been created through past actions etc. People who have difficulty with the ?concept of reincarnation hit a wall at this point! Perhaps they are partly correct since we do not take rebirth as the same individual or 'soul-carnal package'. My belief is that each birthtime is unique in many ways (or else what would be the point of birth and life?) although certain trends and lessons may remain continual (purpose of birth). Jyotish can pick these trends and advise the individual appropriately, but then the nativity must do the work and drive!

The complexity of human birth-time gets oversimplified by some who have become enamoured by magical thinking and see in that approach the answer to all problems in life. While candy may quench the appetite and quell hunger for a few minutes, hunger returns and needs proper and balanced food that can provide nutrition essential for growth and not just a burst of sugar-calories that just makes one crave for more fast-calories and destroys the body and mind and soul? The result is a lifetime wasted??

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