I had a very i think meaningful dream and i would appreciate it if i could get some extra help on the interpretation.I have done some research but i would like to hear another point of view or two :D.
In teh first part i was taking pictures on the top of kingsbury grade up in tahoe wherei used to live. My father was telling me to go to the top take a picture then come back down and then go back up and take another lol. After i did this we were behind some store and he was telling me to go in through the back and steal what i think was a coffee mug. I did this a few times then the last time i was looking over the side of he wall and saw that the ppl who work there saw me. when they came into the back room i just stood there. they told me i was going to jail and then when i was escorted outside my probation counselor handed me a mask of himself and started saying a bunch of bad things about my dad. When i found my father he was all pale and scared.
After this i found myself, my little sister and a friend of mine all at a fancy hotel like the marriot. It was all gold and shiny inside. I walked up to the front desk handed them what i thought was $50 and when they took it they gave me a key and my change which was more than what i gave them. I want to say it was about $83. The key had the number 108 on it so we walked up to that room and the door was open. It was already someone elses room but we went in anyway and no one was in there so we started rooting through their stuff. When we couldnt find anything we wanted the lady whose room it initially was came in and we said that we were also assigned to this room. We talked a little then went out to the balcony where she said that it was January 8th (1/08) andi told her that that was two days after my birthday so she handed me a little box and a present with a bow and all and then i woke up....
Wow that was incredibly long im sry,
Theft, hotels, 108 and gifts
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TThe Indian Subcontinent rosary or set of mantra counting has 108 beads. 108 has been a sacred number in the Indian Subcontinent for a very long time. This number is explained in many different ways.
The ancient Indians were excellent mathematicians and 108 may be the product of a precise mathematical operation (e.g. 1 power 1 x 2 power 2 x 3 power 3 = 108) which was thought to have special numerological significance.
Powers of 1, 2, and 3 in math: 1 to 1st power=1; 2 to 2nd power=4 (2x2); 3 to 3rd power=27 (3x3x3). 1x4x27=108
Sanskrit alphabet: There are 54 letters in the Sanskrit alphabet. Each has masculine and feminine, shiva and shakti. 54 times 2 is 108.
Sri Yantra: On the Sri Yantra there are marmas where three lines intersect, and there are 54 such intersections. Each intersections has masculine and feminine, shiva and shakti qualities. 54 x 2 equals 108. Thus, there are 108 points that define the Sri Yantra as well as the human body.
9 times 12: Both of these numbers have been said to have spiritual significance in many traditions. 9 times 12 is 108. Also, 1 plus 8 equals 9. That 9 times 12 equals 108.
Heart Chakra: The chakras are the intersections of energy lines, and there are said to be a total of 108 energy lines converging to form the heart chakra. One of them, sushumna leads to the crown chakra, and is said to be the path to Self-realization.
he number 108, is interesting, that is what I found when looking it up.
Most of it probably doesn't make sense to you but it is special.
Also maybe you are an Indigo child. That's something you can look up, it's very special. Hope this helped. I'd love to hear what you think...
The ancient Indians were excellent mathematicians and 108 may be the product of a precise mathematical operation (e.g. 1 power 1 x 2 power 2 x 3 power 3 = 108) which was thought to have special numerological significance.
Powers of 1, 2, and 3 in math: 1 to 1st power=1; 2 to 2nd power=4 (2x2); 3 to 3rd power=27 (3x3x3). 1x4x27=108
Sanskrit alphabet: There are 54 letters in the Sanskrit alphabet. Each has masculine and feminine, shiva and shakti. 54 times 2 is 108.
Sri Yantra: On the Sri Yantra there are marmas where three lines intersect, and there are 54 such intersections. Each intersections has masculine and feminine, shiva and shakti qualities. 54 x 2 equals 108. Thus, there are 108 points that define the Sri Yantra as well as the human body.
9 times 12: Both of these numbers have been said to have spiritual significance in many traditions. 9 times 12 is 108. Also, 1 plus 8 equals 9. That 9 times 12 equals 108.
Heart Chakra: The chakras are the intersections of energy lines, and there are said to be a total of 108 energy lines converging to form the heart chakra. One of them, sushumna leads to the crown chakra, and is said to be the path to Self-realization.
he number 108, is interesting, that is what I found when looking it up.
Most of it probably doesn't make sense to you but it is special.
Also maybe you are an Indigo child. That's something you can look up, it's very special. Hope this helped. I'd love to hear what you think...
Yeah that is all the information i have ran across also except for the correlation between being indigo and the dream, but it is incredible that you even brought that up because that is something that i have ran across a bit ago but didnt want to come to an irrational conclusions because im really good at doing it lol. So now that you said that it kind of validated it in my mind and im totally going to go back and look it up to more of a depth.
What do you see as being a correlation between teh 108 beads and the key/Date?
What do you see as being a correlation between teh 108 beads and the key/Date?
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The correlation between them is simply just the number 108, it's repeated so it catches your attention first and foremost. The beads are spiritual in nature and represent counting mantras, or the number may be the connection/joining of the male and female energies inside you, like yin and yang coming together. The devine feminine and the divine masculine joining is sometimes called a spiritual awakening, something I've just learned all about. The key is a key, it is something that opens doors that were closed to you, they hold great power, and the date is just another example of this number. It might mean something is going to happen on that day or did happen, but probably not, it was probably just a reinforcer.
The indigo connection just came to me as it seems this dream is special in significance of someone who may have a deep spirituality, or latent phycic abililties, you are probably both. The number speakes louder than words, why would you dream this very special number if you weren't special. You definately recieved a message from somewhere other than yourself don't you think?
The indigo connection just came to me as it seems this dream is special in significance of someone who may have a deep spirituality, or latent phycic abililties, you are probably both. The number speakes louder than words, why would you dream this very special number if you weren't special. You definately recieved a message from somewhere other than yourself don't you think?
Oh okay i understand. :D.
Youve pretty much just been reinforcing my initial thoughts so thank you i guess thats what i needed cause i question myself, think, rethink and think things over again lol. So im definately going to do more research on the indigo thing as well as the spiritual awakening. This is about my 3 year trying to get through it and its very difficult because im an emotional basketcase anyway lol let alone when im under a mass reconstruction to say the least :D.
Youve pretty much just been reinforcing my initial thoughts so thank you i guess thats what i needed cause i question myself, think, rethink and think things over again lol. So im definately going to do more research on the indigo thing as well as the spiritual awakening. This is about my 3 year trying to get through it and its very difficult because im an emotional basketcase anyway lol let alone when im under a mass reconstruction to say the least :D.
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OK, sorry I got interrupted and didn't finish what I was trying to say. Indigo children are very like what you said, deep thinkers and over analyze things a little too much. Don't let your nerves and overthinking get the better of you. You are just starting on a journey of discovery and looking into what it means to be an indigo person. Read and learn about Indigo's but don't put labels on yourself as it will make you limit yourself in a way. I should have said that before. Your dream connection to being an indigo is that your dream seems to show you have a spiritual path ahead of you, but in the meantime you have a lot of growing and learning to do first. Relax and evolve as fast as you feel comfortable without overdoing it. I see you are very sensitive and internalise way too much, sometimes it's a good thing, sometimes it isn't. I looked this up, hope it helps a little:
The definition: "An Indigo child is one who displays a new and unusual set of psychological attributes and shows a pattern of behavior generally undocumented before."
However, there are ten common traits that researchers, psychologists and others interested in the Indigo Child phenomenon believe help classify these children. The are as follows:
1. Indigo Children come into the world with a feeling of royalty (and often act like it).
This statement does not indicate a sassy, bratty child. It indicates a highly intelligent being who knows they are there for an important reason, even if they don't yet understand what it is. They have a feeling about themselves, that they are important, and often act like it, usually in the things they say, speaking from an experience they often haven't ever had.
2. Indigo Children have a feeling of "deserving to be here," and are surprised when others don't share that.
Again, this is one of those instances, when an Indigo internally recognizes that they were sent here for a greater purpose. These children do not necessarily act snobby or self-centered. They just understand there is a reason they have been put here, and they long to understand what it is.
3. Self-worth is not a big issue for Indigo Children. They often tell the parents "who they are."
This is a wonderful quality, that unfortunately more children to not possess. The Indigo child does not always have high self esteem, but usually knows who they are before anyone else has ever figured them out. They usually recognize that they are different.
4. Indigo Children have difficulty with absolute authority (authority without explanation or choice).
This is not some difficult child. This is the indigo, needing choices, needing different ways to approach the tasks and situations that we might do one way. Life is full of choices, and there is certainly no reason why you cannot treat a child with respect, and allow them choices, even at a young age. This will not cause the child to grow up disrespecting adults, etc. If taught early on, the Indigo child understands that they have choices to make, and will respect authority more when they understand why they are being asked to make a choice, and allowed the freedom of choice.
5. Indigo Children simply will not do certain things; for example, waiting in line is difficult for them.
No, contrary to some people's opinion, these are not children who were raised by bad parents. These are children who's attention is limited, because they have bigger, and better things they need to do, who simply cannot comprehend the mundane tasks, etc that we are requesting them to participate in. Often they do not understand themselves why they are unable to do certain things, only that they cannot.
6. Indigo Children get frustrated with systems that are ritual-oriented and don't require creative thought.
One of the key "ingredients" of the Indigo Child, is that they are highly creative, and extremely intelligent. If they cannot be creative in the way that they think, or do something, they will fall to the clutches of our boring ritual oriented lives. These children often have new ways of thinking, and doing the same things we have been doing for years. If we open up and just listen, we will hear and see things that will amaze us.
7. Indigo Children often see better ways of doing things, both at home and school, which makes them seem like "system busters" (nonconforming to any system).
This is almost the same as above. They can find much easier or quicker ways to accomplish tasks, that perhaps the common individual has overlooked. They see beyond the norm. They are not purposely being "system busters" they are simply looking for the opportunity to show others a new way of thinking.
8. Indigo Children seem antisocial unless they are with their own kind. If there are no others of like consciousness around them, they often turn inward, feeling like no other human understands them. School is often extremely difficult for them socially.
Often these children come off as loners, however it is only because they rest on a different plane than the average child. Conversations with children that are not like them, are often hard to comprehend. This might be the child who would prefer to work alone on a challenging puzzle, than playing house with another child. They are always seeking betterment, without realizing it. They are not like others, and have a difficult time expressing themselves - it takes a lot out of them.
9. Indigo Children will not respond to "guilt" discipline ("Wait until your father gets home and finds out what you did").
Often removing the child from the situation is the most effective way to deal with behavior issues. Another technique is to simply listen to them. Hear what they have to say, and then ask them questions. "If I had allowed you to carry that huge tray of breakable glass, what do you think might have happened?". Obviously there are discipline issues that might have to be dealt with differently, but these Indigo children are simply looking for someone to communicate with them, so they can try as best as they are equipped to explain themselves and their purpose.
10. Indigo Children are not shy in letting you know what they need.
Typically these children know what they need, even before they understand why they need it. Don't always say no. Listen to their reasons for wanting or needing something. Don't always assume that they have normal childhood tendencies, expect that they have valid reasons, and try to understand them.
THis is from a parenting point of veiw.Here's some more I found...
An Indigo Child is a person who displays a different kind of thinking, one that has not yet been shown by children until this generation. Their aura colour itself can show who they are.
Indigo is the colour of the Third Eye Chakra, the center of clairvoyance and most other psychic activity. These children are born very psychically advanced and many a time show their extreme empathy, strong intuition and powerful clairvoyance.
Indigo Children have some very unique characteristics are differ greatly from most other children. Here is a list I composed myself.
An Indigo Child:
- Does not often suffer from self-esteem problems (although some Indigo teens suffer from periods in which they reject their bodies.)
- Refuses to bow to absolute authority (told to do something with no explanation or reason given)
- Often see better ways of doing things in school/home/work.
- Have Difficulty conforming to society’s view of normal/ideal.
- Displays a strong intuition.
- Displays a strong empathy for others.
- Is very intelligent and/or talented.
- Enjoys talking about spiritual concepts.
- Is seen as a daydreamer.
- Becomes bored with work that does not interest them easily.
- Refuses to do something if it does not seem important enough.
- ALWAYS need to know WHY something has to be done.
- May have very deep looking eyes.
- Thinks abstractly at a young age.
- Started speaking later, and used self-invented sign language or telepathy (with mind or feelings) to communicate
- Becomes frustrated with ritual-orientated tasks that require little creativity easily.
- Is very creative.
- May have trouble with rage (rare)
- Feels a burning desire inside to do something important, or may feel that something big is coming.
- May see things that other people cannot (clairvoyance) such as angels, spirit guides, ghosts, ect...
- Cannot stand to see another human being treated with disrespect or done an injustice. Will often fight for any cause that comes up.
- Enjoys asking hypothetical questions and asking ‘why?’
- Often have difficulty falling asleep and/or waking up.
- Have a feeling of ‘not belonging’ on Earth (many commit suicide... )
- May believe they are Otherkin, Starkin (starseed, starchild), Changeling or something else.
- Easily concentrate on things that are found interesting, but often tune out if something seems meaningless.
- Usually emotionally sensitive. Such as, from experiencing ALL emotion from people (no protection) to seeming emotionless (protected).
- Often have encounters with Aliens or Angels at a young age (and may still be experiencing it).
- Will not do something that is against their beliefs.
- Often has an intolerance for ignorant or arrogant people.
- Has been diagnosed, or shows signs of ADD/ADHD AND has many of the signs above.
Sorry this is a long list to read, hope it was interesting.
The definition: "An Indigo child is one who displays a new and unusual set of psychological attributes and shows a pattern of behavior generally undocumented before."
However, there are ten common traits that researchers, psychologists and others interested in the Indigo Child phenomenon believe help classify these children. The are as follows:
1. Indigo Children come into the world with a feeling of royalty (and often act like it).
This statement does not indicate a sassy, bratty child. It indicates a highly intelligent being who knows they are there for an important reason, even if they don't yet understand what it is. They have a feeling about themselves, that they are important, and often act like it, usually in the things they say, speaking from an experience they often haven't ever had.
2. Indigo Children have a feeling of "deserving to be here," and are surprised when others don't share that.
Again, this is one of those instances, when an Indigo internally recognizes that they were sent here for a greater purpose. These children do not necessarily act snobby or self-centered. They just understand there is a reason they have been put here, and they long to understand what it is.
3. Self-worth is not a big issue for Indigo Children. They often tell the parents "who they are."
This is a wonderful quality, that unfortunately more children to not possess. The Indigo child does not always have high self esteem, but usually knows who they are before anyone else has ever figured them out. They usually recognize that they are different.
4. Indigo Children have difficulty with absolute authority (authority without explanation or choice).
This is not some difficult child. This is the indigo, needing choices, needing different ways to approach the tasks and situations that we might do one way. Life is full of choices, and there is certainly no reason why you cannot treat a child with respect, and allow them choices, even at a young age. This will not cause the child to grow up disrespecting adults, etc. If taught early on, the Indigo child understands that they have choices to make, and will respect authority more when they understand why they are being asked to make a choice, and allowed the freedom of choice.
5. Indigo Children simply will not do certain things; for example, waiting in line is difficult for them.
No, contrary to some people's opinion, these are not children who were raised by bad parents. These are children who's attention is limited, because they have bigger, and better things they need to do, who simply cannot comprehend the mundane tasks, etc that we are requesting them to participate in. Often they do not understand themselves why they are unable to do certain things, only that they cannot.
6. Indigo Children get frustrated with systems that are ritual-oriented and don't require creative thought.
One of the key "ingredients" of the Indigo Child, is that they are highly creative, and extremely intelligent. If they cannot be creative in the way that they think, or do something, they will fall to the clutches of our boring ritual oriented lives. These children often have new ways of thinking, and doing the same things we have been doing for years. If we open up and just listen, we will hear and see things that will amaze us.
7. Indigo Children often see better ways of doing things, both at home and school, which makes them seem like "system busters" (nonconforming to any system).
This is almost the same as above. They can find much easier or quicker ways to accomplish tasks, that perhaps the common individual has overlooked. They see beyond the norm. They are not purposely being "system busters" they are simply looking for the opportunity to show others a new way of thinking.
8. Indigo Children seem antisocial unless they are with their own kind. If there are no others of like consciousness around them, they often turn inward, feeling like no other human understands them. School is often extremely difficult for them socially.
Often these children come off as loners, however it is only because they rest on a different plane than the average child. Conversations with children that are not like them, are often hard to comprehend. This might be the child who would prefer to work alone on a challenging puzzle, than playing house with another child. They are always seeking betterment, without realizing it. They are not like others, and have a difficult time expressing themselves - it takes a lot out of them.
9. Indigo Children will not respond to "guilt" discipline ("Wait until your father gets home and finds out what you did").
Often removing the child from the situation is the most effective way to deal with behavior issues. Another technique is to simply listen to them. Hear what they have to say, and then ask them questions. "If I had allowed you to carry that huge tray of breakable glass, what do you think might have happened?". Obviously there are discipline issues that might have to be dealt with differently, but these Indigo children are simply looking for someone to communicate with them, so they can try as best as they are equipped to explain themselves and their purpose.
10. Indigo Children are not shy in letting you know what they need.
Typically these children know what they need, even before they understand why they need it. Don't always say no. Listen to their reasons for wanting or needing something. Don't always assume that they have normal childhood tendencies, expect that they have valid reasons, and try to understand them.
THis is from a parenting point of veiw.Here's some more I found...
An Indigo Child is a person who displays a different kind of thinking, one that has not yet been shown by children until this generation. Their aura colour itself can show who they are.
Indigo is the colour of the Third Eye Chakra, the center of clairvoyance and most other psychic activity. These children are born very psychically advanced and many a time show their extreme empathy, strong intuition and powerful clairvoyance.
Indigo Children have some very unique characteristics are differ greatly from most other children. Here is a list I composed myself.
An Indigo Child:
- Does not often suffer from self-esteem problems (although some Indigo teens suffer from periods in which they reject their bodies.)
- Refuses to bow to absolute authority (told to do something with no explanation or reason given)
- Often see better ways of doing things in school/home/work.
- Have Difficulty conforming to society’s view of normal/ideal.
- Displays a strong intuition.
- Displays a strong empathy for others.
- Is very intelligent and/or talented.
- Enjoys talking about spiritual concepts.
- Is seen as a daydreamer.
- Becomes bored with work that does not interest them easily.
- Refuses to do something if it does not seem important enough.
- ALWAYS need to know WHY something has to be done.
- May have very deep looking eyes.
- Thinks abstractly at a young age.
- Started speaking later, and used self-invented sign language or telepathy (with mind or feelings) to communicate
- Becomes frustrated with ritual-orientated tasks that require little creativity easily.
- Is very creative.
- May have trouble with rage (rare)
- Feels a burning desire inside to do something important, or may feel that something big is coming.
- May see things that other people cannot (clairvoyance) such as angels, spirit guides, ghosts, ect...
- Cannot stand to see another human being treated with disrespect or done an injustice. Will often fight for any cause that comes up.
- Enjoys asking hypothetical questions and asking ‘why?’
- Often have difficulty falling asleep and/or waking up.
- Have a feeling of ‘not belonging’ on Earth (many commit suicide... )
- May believe they are Otherkin, Starkin (starseed, starchild), Changeling or something else.
- Easily concentrate on things that are found interesting, but often tune out if something seems meaningless.
- Usually emotionally sensitive. Such as, from experiencing ALL emotion from people (no protection) to seeming emotionless (protected).
- Often have encounters with Aliens or Angels at a young age (and may still be experiencing it).
- Will not do something that is against their beliefs.
- Often has an intolerance for ignorant or arrogant people.
- Has been diagnosed, or shows signs of ADD/ADHD AND has many of the signs above.
Sorry this is a long list to read, hope it was interesting.
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newmoongina
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Oh no, your parents are making you see a therapist? I was so struck by your post here as you have the same name as my son who is definately an Indigo. He's only 8 though. You should never label someone, you must not take it to heart. Do you have to take meds? Don't answer that if it's too personal. There is a large movement within phycologist groups now taking a more gentle and spiritual appoach to these things manifesting in teens than ever before. Diagnosing you and putting a label on whatever's going on with you is rediculous. Do you think that perhaps you could get your parents to take you to see someone who would be more understanding of what a spiritual awakening is? And someone that knows about Indigo children/teens? What is boarderline personality anyway? Sorry I do rant on and on...
To answer your question, and I'm not really qualified, but there are many cases in adults I've read about that are diagnosed unknowingly and are just going through a transitional stage of their spiritual development. They are diagnosed with neurosis, phycosis, split personality, cronic fatigue syndrome, depression, just to name a few.
Of course I'm not a doctor and I'm not giving medical advice.
You will have to tell me what's going on with you if you want my help. What is the problem? What are your symptoms? There's probably nothing to worry about.And what are the supposed symptoms of borderline personality disorder?
The possiblilties are endless...Just to take a guess in the dark though, you've probably had a rough time growing up, you feel alone, you are nervous, full of energy then lethargic for ages after, you have a deep longing for a connection to others like you, don't worry you are a normal teen, just the ones that seem like they have it all under control just hide it much better than others.
To answer your question, and I'm not really qualified, but there are many cases in adults I've read about that are diagnosed unknowingly and are just going through a transitional stage of their spiritual development. They are diagnosed with neurosis, phycosis, split personality, cronic fatigue syndrome, depression, just to name a few.
Of course I'm not a doctor and I'm not giving medical advice.
You will have to tell me what's going on with you if you want my help. What is the problem? What are your symptoms? There's probably nothing to worry about.And what are the supposed symptoms of borderline personality disorder?
The possiblilties are endless...Just to take a guess in the dark though, you've probably had a rough time growing up, you feel alone, you are nervous, full of energy then lethargic for ages after, you have a deep longing for a connection to others like you, don't worry you are a normal teen, just the ones that seem like they have it all under control just hide it much better than others.
I do not really believe in keeping secrets. If someone tried they could find out anything about me just by my name you know so why should i try lol. Im here to help people because ive been through so much.
I do not see a therapist any longer but i have been in and out of mental institutions since i was 12/13 and have "post traumatic stress disorder" (Borderline personality disorder is a form of PTSD) but i do agree as to not give myself a label (even though like most if not all humans, i do feel better oncei have given a name to whati feel i need to dominate) and i think that things that psychology is giving names to are just natural things that have been going on since before man could give them a term; and i know that because i have been through this i am here to help people that are going through similar things and even ones that have different problems because i am a telepath by nature and have an easy time adjusting myself to others i guess to "get with" their energy and mind so that i can talk to them and help them in a way they understand....which is a pain in the ass. And this trait that i have i guess could be mistaken for a lack of identity and all im doing is "morphing" into the people im with. (just so you know im kind of figuring this out as i speek...or type i guess to be politically correct) And what you said makes sense to concering my knowledge on psychology and spirituality i see this "personality disorder" as being the same/similar symptoms of a spiritual awakening.
Im going ot list all the traits belonging to people with Borderline Personality Disorder:
Quite frequently people with Borderline Personality Disorder have a very hard time controlling their emotions. They may feel ruled by them. One researcher (Marsha Linehan) said, "People with Borderline Personality Disorder are like people with third degree burns over 90% of their bodies. Lacking emotional skin, they feel agony at the slightest touch or movement."
1. Shifts in mood lasting only a few hours.
2. Anger that is inappropriate, intense or uncontrollable.
3. Self-destructive acts, such as self-mutilation or suicidal threats and gestures that happen more than once
4. Two potentially self-damaging impulsive behaviors. These could include alcohol and other drug abuse, compulsive spending, gambling, eating disorders, shoplifting, reckless driving, compulsive sexual behavior.
5. Marked, persistent identity disturbance shown by uncertainty in at least two areas. These areas can include self-image, sexual orientation, career choice or other long-term goals, friendships, values. People with Borderline Personality Disorder may not feel like they know who they are, or what they think, or what their opinions are, or what religion they should be. Instead, they may try to be what they think other people want them to be. Someone with Borderline Personality Disorder said, "I have a hard time figuring out my personality. I tend to be whomever I'm with."
6. Chronic feelings of emptiness or boredom. Someone with Borderline Personality Disorder said, "I remember describing the feeling of having a deep hole in my stomach. An emptiness that I didn't know how to fill. My therapist told me that was from almost a "lack of a life". The more things you get into your life, the more relationships you get involved in, all of that fills that hole. As a borderline, I had no life. There were times when I couldn't stay in the same room with other people. It almost felt like what I think a panic attack would feel like."
*These next two traits i do not see any real correlation between an awakening other than this would be a form of working out the past and shedding these things*
7. Unstable, chaotic intense relationships characterized by splitting (see below).
8. Frantic efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment
Splitting: the self and others are viewed as "all good" or "all bad." Someone with Borderline Personality Disorder said, "One day I would think my doctor was the best and I loved her, but if she challenged me in any way I hated her. There was no middle ground as in like. In my world, people were either the best or the worst. I couldn't understand the concept of middle ground."
Alternating clinging and distancing behaviors (I Hate You, Don't Leave Me). Sometimes you want to be close to someone. But when you get close it feels TOO close and you feel like you have to get some space. This happens often.
Great difficulty trusting people and themselves. Early trust may have been shattered by people who were close to you.
Sensitivity to criticism or rejection.
Feeling of "needing" someone else to survive
Heavy need for affection and reassurance
Some people with Borderline Personality Disorder may have an unusually high degree of interpersonal sensitivity, insight and empathy
9. Transient, stress-related paranoid ideation or severe dissociative symptoms
This means feeling "out of it," or not being able to remember what you said or did. This mostly happens in times of severe stress.
People with Borderline Personality Disorder are often bright, witty, funny, life of the party.
They may have problems with object constancy. When a person leaves (even temporarily), they may have a problem recreating or remembering feelings of love that were present between themselves and the other. Often, Borderline Personality Disorder patients want to keep something belonging to the loved one around during separations.
They frequently have difficulty tolerating aloneness, even for short periods of time.
Their lives may be a chaotic landscape of job losses, interrupted educational pursuits, broken engagements, hospitalizations.
Many have a background of childhood physical, sexual, or emotional abuse or physical/emotional neglect.
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I have damn near everyone of those traits and they first appeared at 12 and that was when everything began.
Like i said i have been hospitalized and even one of the ladies working at the center told me that she didnt think that i had a mental problem and that it was spiritual, But i was put on many different medications including: Prozac,lexapro,depakote,seroquel,trazadone and maybe more.
I was being treated for: major depression, anxiety, insomnia, bi-polar, and psychosis.
I do not see a therapist any longer but i have been in and out of mental institutions since i was 12/13 and have "post traumatic stress disorder" (Borderline personality disorder is a form of PTSD) but i do agree as to not give myself a label (even though like most if not all humans, i do feel better oncei have given a name to whati feel i need to dominate) and i think that things that psychology is giving names to are just natural things that have been going on since before man could give them a term; and i know that because i have been through this i am here to help people that are going through similar things and even ones that have different problems because i am a telepath by nature and have an easy time adjusting myself to others i guess to "get with" their energy and mind so that i can talk to them and help them in a way they understand....which is a pain in the ass. And this trait that i have i guess could be mistaken for a lack of identity and all im doing is "morphing" into the people im with. (just so you know im kind of figuring this out as i speek...or type i guess to be politically correct) And what you said makes sense to concering my knowledge on psychology and spirituality i see this "personality disorder" as being the same/similar symptoms of a spiritual awakening.
Im going ot list all the traits belonging to people with Borderline Personality Disorder:
Quite frequently people with Borderline Personality Disorder have a very hard time controlling their emotions. They may feel ruled by them. One researcher (Marsha Linehan) said, "People with Borderline Personality Disorder are like people with third degree burns over 90% of their bodies. Lacking emotional skin, they feel agony at the slightest touch or movement."
1. Shifts in mood lasting only a few hours.
2. Anger that is inappropriate, intense or uncontrollable.
3. Self-destructive acts, such as self-mutilation or suicidal threats and gestures that happen more than once
4. Two potentially self-damaging impulsive behaviors. These could include alcohol and other drug abuse, compulsive spending, gambling, eating disorders, shoplifting, reckless driving, compulsive sexual behavior.
5. Marked, persistent identity disturbance shown by uncertainty in at least two areas. These areas can include self-image, sexual orientation, career choice or other long-term goals, friendships, values. People with Borderline Personality Disorder may not feel like they know who they are, or what they think, or what their opinions are, or what religion they should be. Instead, they may try to be what they think other people want them to be. Someone with Borderline Personality Disorder said, "I have a hard time figuring out my personality. I tend to be whomever I'm with."
6. Chronic feelings of emptiness or boredom. Someone with Borderline Personality Disorder said, "I remember describing the feeling of having a deep hole in my stomach. An emptiness that I didn't know how to fill. My therapist told me that was from almost a "lack of a life". The more things you get into your life, the more relationships you get involved in, all of that fills that hole. As a borderline, I had no life. There were times when I couldn't stay in the same room with other people. It almost felt like what I think a panic attack would feel like."
*These next two traits i do not see any real correlation between an awakening other than this would be a form of working out the past and shedding these things*
7. Unstable, chaotic intense relationships characterized by splitting (see below).
8. Frantic efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment
Splitting: the self and others are viewed as "all good" or "all bad." Someone with Borderline Personality Disorder said, "One day I would think my doctor was the best and I loved her, but if she challenged me in any way I hated her. There was no middle ground as in like. In my world, people were either the best or the worst. I couldn't understand the concept of middle ground."
Alternating clinging and distancing behaviors (I Hate You, Don't Leave Me). Sometimes you want to be close to someone. But when you get close it feels TOO close and you feel like you have to get some space. This happens often.
Great difficulty trusting people and themselves. Early trust may have been shattered by people who were close to you.
Sensitivity to criticism or rejection.
Feeling of "needing" someone else to survive
Heavy need for affection and reassurance
Some people with Borderline Personality Disorder may have an unusually high degree of interpersonal sensitivity, insight and empathy
9. Transient, stress-related paranoid ideation or severe dissociative symptoms
This means feeling "out of it," or not being able to remember what you said or did. This mostly happens in times of severe stress.
People with Borderline Personality Disorder are often bright, witty, funny, life of the party.
They may have problems with object constancy. When a person leaves (even temporarily), they may have a problem recreating or remembering feelings of love that were present between themselves and the other. Often, Borderline Personality Disorder patients want to keep something belonging to the loved one around during separations.
They frequently have difficulty tolerating aloneness, even for short periods of time.
Their lives may be a chaotic landscape of job losses, interrupted educational pursuits, broken engagements, hospitalizations.
Many have a background of childhood physical, sexual, or emotional abuse or physical/emotional neglect.
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I have damn near everyone of those traits and they first appeared at 12 and that was when everything began.
Like i said i have been hospitalized and even one of the ladies working at the center told me that she didnt think that i had a mental problem and that it was spiritual, But i was put on many different medications including: Prozac,lexapro,depakote,seroquel,trazadone and maybe more.
I was being treated for: major depression, anxiety, insomnia, bi-polar, and psychosis.
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newmoongina
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This is not medical advice, put something to think about perhaps when you are a couple years older, the madication can impede a spirirtual awakening, just as illegal drugs do too and should not be taken. But please do not stop your medicaion, it's probably vital right now for you and helps balance things out. This same thing with your situation I see over and over with teenagers, I was one not long ago, that the parents put them on meds. I've suffered from what pycologists call post traumatic stress and I even had hallucinations throughout it. I never went to a phycologist except a spiritual one I found and was actually friends with, we drank too much wine together on several occasions, LOL, I wish I could tell you everything she taught me. It's all how you look at things, the world is what you percieve it to be. I got over it just fine, although it took a while. How are your parents with you? Do you think you could talk them into taking you to a spiritual councellor or something like that? You've prbably had enough with doctors to last a life time. Were your parents abusive? MAny of the spymptoms described above can be put dowm to being a normal teenager, although some I would not.
And when you talk about morphing into another's energy to be on their wavelength, that's soemthing I do too much too, and it does where off eventually you will find a solid identity and make it your own, not that you don't have one just that this is a natural response when you don't trust others to like you when you are truly yourself. It gets better and it teaches empathy, just don't lose yourself too much in trying to please others. It is a vicious circle trying to be a people pleaser becasue that's what parents want their kids to be and it screws them up and puts their energy out of balance from an early age. I have long grown out of my teen years but I still get emotional and sometimes feel overwhelmed with them, but I consider myself OK, I am a normal functionning member of society.
Your quote is the same on I use on another website I frequent. Keep dreaming, I am. I wish you well and take care. We can talk whenever you want and I'll try to find some stuff to read...
http://www.eclecticenergies.com/chakras/chakratest.php please learn about this, it's not too long a read. It might explain a few things
http://www.sunfell.com/symptoms.htm
http://kundalini-teacher.com/awakening/types.php
http://kundalini-teacher.com/symptoms/psychosis.php
Read this and see if it helps ease your mind a little.
And when you talk about morphing into another's energy to be on their wavelength, that's soemthing I do too much too, and it does where off eventually you will find a solid identity and make it your own, not that you don't have one just that this is a natural response when you don't trust others to like you when you are truly yourself. It gets better and it teaches empathy, just don't lose yourself too much in trying to please others. It is a vicious circle trying to be a people pleaser becasue that's what parents want their kids to be and it screws them up and puts their energy out of balance from an early age. I have long grown out of my teen years but I still get emotional and sometimes feel overwhelmed with them, but I consider myself OK, I am a normal functionning member of society.
Your quote is the same on I use on another website I frequent. Keep dreaming, I am. I wish you well and take care. We can talk whenever you want and I'll try to find some stuff to read...
http://www.eclecticenergies.com/chakras/chakratest.php please learn about this, it's not too long a read. It might explain a few things
http://www.sunfell.com/symptoms.htm
http://kundalini-teacher.com/awakening/types.php
http://kundalini-teacher.com/symptoms/psychosis.php
Read this and see if it helps ease your mind a little.
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daizyblackrose
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Indigo child
Hey um......Newmoongina I've got a question bout the Indigo child deal & also thank for posting it too, now I understand myself & my second eldest better.
There was so many things I couldn't figure out for both of us & now I know.
(Another clue to our puzzle lol.)
But no my question is what job types are best or what jobs would they do great at?
(Because of me for this question.)
If you can give info that would be great.
Always Daydreaming,
Daizy 
There was so many things I couldn't figure out for both of us & now I know.
(Another clue to our puzzle lol.)
But no my question is what job types are best or what jobs would they do great at?
(Because of me for this question.)
If you can give info that would be great.
Always Daydreaming,
Daizy
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newmoongina
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well true indigo's, and I think I might be one too, jobs, well.....
The jobs that I find are best are creative, self employed, work from home, give a sense of purpose, help others but not so much as to impede on your personal lifestyle, ones that give a sense of freedom from rules and regulations.
To name a few are musician or music teacher, artist, writer, entrepreneur, councellor, guidance councillor, life coach, pychic, being the boss of a company, any job that relates to using leadership qualities,,,,,and does not require sitting for too long, and jobs where you do not have to answer to an authority figure....
http://www.starchild.co.za/indigo.html
Read this and see if it helps
The jobs that I find are best are creative, self employed, work from home, give a sense of purpose, help others but not so much as to impede on your personal lifestyle, ones that give a sense of freedom from rules and regulations.
To name a few are musician or music teacher, artist, writer, entrepreneur, councellor, guidance councillor, life coach, pychic, being the boss of a company, any job that relates to using leadership qualities,,,,,and does not require sitting for too long, and jobs where you do not have to answer to an authority figure....
http://www.starchild.co.za/indigo.html
Read this and see if it helps
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daizyblackrose
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