Poll on reincarnation are you a believer????
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This is an exerpt on reincarnation from another group who are seekers of spiritual knowledge. The teacher is JJ Dewey and here he is answering questions on reincarnation to people from varuous religious backgrounds the main one being Latter Day Saints (Mormon)
:A reader with an LDS background writes:
Of all the doctrines you espouse, what I have read regarding
reincarnation is the hardest to accept.
Perhaps the biggest problem I have is John saying that not only is
there reincarnation, but that we can, and do, switch sexes between
lifetimes. I can fairly swallow the whole getting the personality
stripped away between incarnations, but I do have a difficulty with
being a guy in some lives and a chick in others.
One of the things that sticks in my mind is what the LDS Church said
in their Family Declaration about gender being a critical part of who
we are. I can live with loosing my memory, even my personality, but I
have a hard time with loosing my sex. Even now recalling the idea, it
takes off like a lead balloon.
Let's say a man and a woman are sealed in the LDS Church, and its the
last life for the woman, but the man has two lives to go. In his last
life, he decided to be a woman. Then he dies and the both of them are
resurrected to eternal life as women.
Here's another one: a woman is sealed to a man in the temple and she
dies. She comes right back a year later and chooses to be a man this
time and then she gets sealed to a woman (like 21 years after her
death). Then this woman dies, comes back as a man, and gets sealed to
another woman. Are three people going through the eye? (oooh, that's
a good one, isn't it?)
Its problematic to say the least.
JJ Response:
There are places in the astral world where every possible reality is
played out including eternal marriage, but all these are temporary
realities.
For the non LDS let me clarify that the Mormons believe that those
married in the LDS temples can be married for eternity. The LDS
heaven is basically to live and procreate with your spouse for
eternity until you will populate other worlds and become Gods to them.
It is therefore difficult for the standard LDS to accept the doctrine
of reincarnation for it is difficult to reconcile with this as well
as other doctrines. Before we go into any strange or difficult
explanations we must first ask this question.
Is there marriage in the higher worlds? Was Joseph Smith correct?
Verily it is not correct in the way the church today understands it.
There are various sealing orders which bind entities together so they
will meet again in this world as well as in higher worlds, but it is
not in the neat little package of marriage or the family unit as
advertised by the church.
A man and woman are not married for eternity as the church teaches
it, but there are eternal relationships which result in eternal
increase and eternal progression. The idea that a man and woman live
on some planet having billions of spirit children as physical
children are born here on earth is not correct.
True eternal relationships are through the principle of the Molecular
Relationship where a number of entities form molecules which can
exist in the world and extend out of this world.
We were not born to heavenly parents in the manner taught by the
church but we were born of Gods. We started as monadic unites of
light and truth which was nourished by higher molecular lives and
guided through the seven planes until we descended into the physical
plane.
Sex is very meaningful on this earth plane, but as we move to the
higher planes form differentiation becomes meaningless and sex is
replaced by the principle of giving (male) and receiving (female).
We all give and receive in the different places on the path and thus
we all switch back and forth between male and female situations.
In the scriptures Christ is called the bridegroom and the church is
the bride. In other words, we are all female to Christ regardless of
the body in which we find ourselves.
It matters not which life you are on or who claims to seal you to
another for the illusions will become unraveled and the true
principle of eternal progression, (or Becoming) will eventually be
revealed and the way will be prepared to nurture infant souls so they
too can attain the human stage and beyond.
Without reincarnation where we experience both sexes we could not
graduate from this sphere for we must attain knowledge of all things.
If one has male lives only (or female) then he would have a huge gap
of knowledge concerning half the population of the physical universe
and could never rise above all things.
I have written a book on reincarnation for the LDS called Eternal
Lives. You can find it at:
http://freeread.com/Eternal/01.htm
Chapter seven has some information on eternal marriage and can be found at:
http://freeread.com/Eternal/04.htm
If you can read this, thank a teacher.
Anonymous teacher
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WANT TO READ MORE?
Over 2800 Articles by J. J. Dewey at:
http://www.josephjdewey.com/weblog/arti ... ives&idx=1
The Immortal - a free book by J. J. Dewey and links to JJ's Podcast
http://www.freeread.com
Want to join the Free Keys of Knowledge study class?
Go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Keysters/
I support and endorse the Principles of Unification
Find out how you can help at:
http://www.unification911.org/endorsed.php?number=1
Copyright 2005 by J J Dewey
:A reader with an LDS background writes:
Of all the doctrines you espouse, what I have read regarding
reincarnation is the hardest to accept.
Perhaps the biggest problem I have is John saying that not only is
there reincarnation, but that we can, and do, switch sexes between
lifetimes. I can fairly swallow the whole getting the personality
stripped away between incarnations, but I do have a difficulty with
being a guy in some lives and a chick in others.
One of the things that sticks in my mind is what the LDS Church said
in their Family Declaration about gender being a critical part of who
we are. I can live with loosing my memory, even my personality, but I
have a hard time with loosing my sex. Even now recalling the idea, it
takes off like a lead balloon.
Let's say a man and a woman are sealed in the LDS Church, and its the
last life for the woman, but the man has two lives to go. In his last
life, he decided to be a woman. Then he dies and the both of them are
resurrected to eternal life as women.
Here's another one: a woman is sealed to a man in the temple and she
dies. She comes right back a year later and chooses to be a man this
time and then she gets sealed to a woman (like 21 years after her
death). Then this woman dies, comes back as a man, and gets sealed to
another woman. Are three people going through the eye? (oooh, that's
a good one, isn't it?)
Its problematic to say the least.
JJ Response:
There are places in the astral world where every possible reality is
played out including eternal marriage, but all these are temporary
realities.
For the non LDS let me clarify that the Mormons believe that those
married in the LDS temples can be married for eternity. The LDS
heaven is basically to live and procreate with your spouse for
eternity until you will populate other worlds and become Gods to them.
It is therefore difficult for the standard LDS to accept the doctrine
of reincarnation for it is difficult to reconcile with this as well
as other doctrines. Before we go into any strange or difficult
explanations we must first ask this question.
Is there marriage in the higher worlds? Was Joseph Smith correct?
Verily it is not correct in the way the church today understands it.
There are various sealing orders which bind entities together so they
will meet again in this world as well as in higher worlds, but it is
not in the neat little package of marriage or the family unit as
advertised by the church.
A man and woman are not married for eternity as the church teaches
it, but there are eternal relationships which result in eternal
increase and eternal progression. The idea that a man and woman live
on some planet having billions of spirit children as physical
children are born here on earth is not correct.
True eternal relationships are through the principle of the Molecular
Relationship where a number of entities form molecules which can
exist in the world and extend out of this world.
We were not born to heavenly parents in the manner taught by the
church but we were born of Gods. We started as monadic unites of
light and truth which was nourished by higher molecular lives and
guided through the seven planes until we descended into the physical
plane.
Sex is very meaningful on this earth plane, but as we move to the
higher planes form differentiation becomes meaningless and sex is
replaced by the principle of giving (male) and receiving (female).
We all give and receive in the different places on the path and thus
we all switch back and forth between male and female situations.
In the scriptures Christ is called the bridegroom and the church is
the bride. In other words, we are all female to Christ regardless of
the body in which we find ourselves.
It matters not which life you are on or who claims to seal you to
another for the illusions will become unraveled and the true
principle of eternal progression, (or Becoming) will eventually be
revealed and the way will be prepared to nurture infant souls so they
too can attain the human stage and beyond.
Without reincarnation where we experience both sexes we could not
graduate from this sphere for we must attain knowledge of all things.
If one has male lives only (or female) then he would have a huge gap
of knowledge concerning half the population of the physical universe
and could never rise above all things.
I have written a book on reincarnation for the LDS called Eternal
Lives. You can find it at:
http://freeread.com/Eternal/01.htm
Chapter seven has some information on eternal marriage and can be found at:
http://freeread.com/Eternal/04.htm
If you can read this, thank a teacher.
Anonymous teacher
--
WANT TO READ MORE?
Over 2800 Articles by J. J. Dewey at:
http://www.josephjdewey.com/weblog/arti ... ives&idx=1
The Immortal - a free book by J. J. Dewey and links to JJ's Podcast
http://www.freeread.com
Want to join the Free Keys of Knowledge study class?
Go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Keysters/
I support and endorse the Principles of Unification
Find out how you can help at:
http://www.unification911.org/endorsed.php?number=1
Copyright 2005 by J J Dewey
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Hi
I definately believe. I think that everyone has a purpose and you continue to have as many lives as you need to learn and complete what you have to do
Like one that on a lonsome road doth walk in fear and dread, and having once turned round walks on and turns no more his head; because he knows a frightful fiend doth close behind him tread. The Rime of the Ancient Mariner
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Absolutely. To those who want to know who decides: you do: God takes no hand in it, because you are ultimately responsible for your own behaviour and decision-making.
Carol Bowman's site http://www.childpastlives.org and Dr. Ian Steveson's site http://www.near-death.com/reincarnation.html will convince the most stubborn that this is truly the way it is.
Love
Old Fart
Carol Bowman's site http://www.childpastlives.org and Dr. Ian Steveson's site http://www.near-death.com/reincarnation.html will convince the most stubborn that this is truly the way it is.
Love
Old Fart
Aquarius is the most important sign of the zodiac: we hold the water everyone needs to survive – and if Libra gives us any trouble, we can splash some water onto it and make it rust up.
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Reincarnation
I have read assorted books on the subject over the years and do believe that we have a choice whether to be reborn to pay off karmatic debt. It's the only way that we can learn how to better ourselves. Depending upon your talents, you will always pick up where you left off. Depending upon your religious background(s), you are likely to follow along the same road(s) again. I do believe that we have a choice of whether we wish to be reborn again but due to karma we must circle around time and time again. I enjoyed reading from Edgar Cayce in regards to his readings for people who had past lives on Atlantis. Many people retained the same talents and continued their growth based upon the abilities that they had. I makes sense to be reborn again. How can one be an "old soul" with great wisdom compared to "new souls" who yet have to learn to be wise?
Brightest Blessings,
Gypsy
Brightest Blessings,
Gypsy
Merry Meet! Blessed Be! Namaste!
yes
ALways remember there are 84,00,000 species of life and we move from one to another depending upon our last thouhgt at death time and previous karman's. Hence istead of thinking what our previous life was like, let us concentrate on making the present life better and useful for even others,
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I'm a believer!
I went to a regression hypnotist about 20 years ago. It was really interesting! Alot of things about my current life made sense after looking into my past!
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