hi! i have a guy in my life for over a year now.. we are not in a relationship... me meet occasionaly .. i dont think he is the relationship type.. im confused because he comes and goes into my life.. i want to know what are his feelings for me .. is it just a physical attraction ? so i have this chart
ill try to see some things here .. but id like some help please! correct me anywhere im wrong
so im scorpio (ruler mars) and im the 8th house .. this shows my anxiety about the matter . he is taurus (ruler venus) and he is in the 9th house (travelling ? foreigner? ) he is not from my country by the way , he just lives and works here for the past 2 years
the moon , my other significator, is also in the 8th house .. what does this mean?
by the way there is no aspect between mars and venus ..
his 5th house ruler is mercury and mercury is its sign.. mercury in conjunction with saturn..
anyone can help me figure this out???
what are his feelings for me?
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Hi Jeanne29,
If I may try a different approach perhaps
we can see some additional viewpoints.
Your ascendant is Scorpio, so querent ruler is Mars
and co-ruler is Moon.
Mars is in Gemini so attention on some form of travel
and stimulation to satisfy the innate mental relestness.
As Mars is square Uranus in the 5th ( in mutual
reception with Neptune in the fourth ) there is a
feeling of restriction and a need to exert authority
or as you say - a kind of anxiety.
I am not sure if your friend is represented by the 7th
house. If he is a friend then ruler is Mercury which
is in Dignity, if he is represented by the 5th house
which I strongly suspect then ruler is Jupiter.
I prefer the 5th house ruler as the relationship
is and I quote
"i have a guy in my life for over a year now.. we are
not in a relationship... me meet occasionaly .. i dont
think he is the relationship type.. im confused because
he comes and goes into my life.."
which typifies 5th house speculative interaction. If it was 7th
house there would be a more formal behaviour ( ritual
and rythmical and relatively dependable - and very
probably recognized by the community as in a marriage
or recognition of some preservation by the community
of the mutual relationship ). Naturally 11th house
is friendship and this is probably more intimate than
a simple friendship ( as Mars is in 8th house of life ).
Note that there is a mutual reception with Jupiter
in the fourth and Uranus in the 5th also judging
not for friendhip but a more intimate but
speculative connection.
Moons is trine Neptune and Moons last aspect is square
Uranus so this will probably lead to eventual dissolution.
Mars ( you ) is in a seperating trine to ( his ) Jupiter
and Jupiter is retrograde indicating his intermitant
but reduction of commitment ( seperating Orb 1 degree
and 20 minutes ). His ruler Jupiter is disposed by
Saturn in a separating square to Mars indicating a
failing attempt at a relationship ( 11 th house is
7th house from 5th house ) but he has ability to glibly
ignore the details important to you - a mental block
in applying his attentions to your concerns -
handle the situation ( saturn applying conjuction
to Mercury Saturn in Mercury ruled Virgo ).
Moons first aspect is to a square with Mercury indicating
this as a pertinent issue and Moon in conjuction
with Mars as an almost emotional maleafic as Moon
in 8th conjunction Mars is indicating you are looking
for security. Moon is trine Jupiter ( aware of the
need for security ) but square Saturn and
Uranus so he is going to avoid commitment to this
security ( Moon applying to all three ).
Although there is the one aspect of the emotional
connection of the applying Moon to his significator
Jupiter other aspects for are weak and opposing
aspects rule this chart if he is represented by
the 5th House.
He is dimly aware of the issues as his Jupter sextiles
Pluto ( Pluto residing in the 2nd - your future ) and
Pluto in a opposition to Mars but as Jupiter seperates
from Pluto he has given up any open declaration
( your second house of your future is his 10 th
house ) and is going to act obtusely ( his Jupiter
in his 12th house ).
Does this help indicate his ( indifferent ) feelings ?
and as Venus ( disposed by the Moon in the 8th ) is
in your eighth house ruled by his 8th house ( Libra
on the cusp of your 12th house ) the feelings are
sexual ( Venus in applying square to his 8th house
which is your 12th house ) but are probably committed
to a more indepedant approach ( South Node in Cancer
disposed by the Moon ) and avoidance of any emotional
entanglements.
If I may try a different approach perhaps
we can see some additional viewpoints.
Your ascendant is Scorpio, so querent ruler is Mars
and co-ruler is Moon.
Mars is in Gemini so attention on some form of travel
and stimulation to satisfy the innate mental relestness.
As Mars is square Uranus in the 5th ( in mutual
reception with Neptune in the fourth ) there is a
feeling of restriction and a need to exert authority
or as you say - a kind of anxiety.
I am not sure if your friend is represented by the 7th
house. If he is a friend then ruler is Mercury which
is in Dignity, if he is represented by the 5th house
which I strongly suspect then ruler is Jupiter.
I prefer the 5th house ruler as the relationship
is and I quote
"i have a guy in my life for over a year now.. we are
not in a relationship... me meet occasionaly .. i dont
think he is the relationship type.. im confused because
he comes and goes into my life.."
which typifies 5th house speculative interaction. If it was 7th
house there would be a more formal behaviour ( ritual
and rythmical and relatively dependable - and very
probably recognized by the community as in a marriage
or recognition of some preservation by the community
of the mutual relationship ). Naturally 11th house
is friendship and this is probably more intimate than
a simple friendship ( as Mars is in 8th house of life ).
Note that there is a mutual reception with Jupiter
in the fourth and Uranus in the 5th also judging
not for friendhip but a more intimate but
speculative connection.
Moons is trine Neptune and Moons last aspect is square
Uranus so this will probably lead to eventual dissolution.
Mars ( you ) is in a seperating trine to ( his ) Jupiter
and Jupiter is retrograde indicating his intermitant
but reduction of commitment ( seperating Orb 1 degree
and 20 minutes ). His ruler Jupiter is disposed by
Saturn in a separating square to Mars indicating a
failing attempt at a relationship ( 11 th house is
7th house from 5th house ) but he has ability to glibly
ignore the details important to you - a mental block
in applying his attentions to your concerns -
handle the situation ( saturn applying conjuction
to Mercury Saturn in Mercury ruled Virgo ).
Moons first aspect is to a square with Mercury indicating
this as a pertinent issue and Moon in conjuction
with Mars as an almost emotional maleafic as Moon
in 8th conjunction Mars is indicating you are looking
for security. Moon is trine Jupiter ( aware of the
need for security ) but square Saturn and
Uranus so he is going to avoid commitment to this
security ( Moon applying to all three ).
Although there is the one aspect of the emotional
connection of the applying Moon to his significator
Jupiter other aspects for are weak and opposing
aspects rule this chart if he is represented by
the 5th House.
He is dimly aware of the issues as his Jupter sextiles
Pluto ( Pluto residing in the 2nd - your future ) and
Pluto in a opposition to Mars but as Jupiter seperates
from Pluto he has given up any open declaration
( your second house of your future is his 10 th
house ) and is going to act obtusely ( his Jupiter
in his 12th house ).
Does this help indicate his ( indifferent ) feelings ?
and as Venus ( disposed by the Moon in the 8th ) is
in your eighth house ruled by his 8th house ( Libra
on the cusp of your 12th house ) the feelings are
sexual ( Venus in applying square to his 8th house
which is your 12th house ) but are probably committed
to a more indepedant approach ( South Node in Cancer
disposed by the Moon ) and avoidance of any emotional
entanglements.
hi! thanks for ur reply! yes u are very accurate..there is a sexual connection between us.. i was afraid that the chart would speak .. and it did..you were accurate about many things.
i didnt understand a few things though.. "His ruler Jupiter is disposed by
Saturn in a separating square to Mars indicating a
failing attempt at a relationship" a failing attempt with me? or someone else? because things were different when we first met 2 years ago..
and another thing "he has given up any open declaration " what do u mean by that?
thank again!
i didnt understand a few things though.. "His ruler Jupiter is disposed by
Saturn in a separating square to Mars indicating a
failing attempt at a relationship" a failing attempt with me? or someone else? because things were different when we first met 2 years ago..
and another thing "he has given up any open declaration " what do u mean by that?
thank again!
Hi Jeanne29,
Thank you for your kind remarks.
To expand:-
"His ruler Jupiter is disposed by
Saturn in a separating square to Mars indicating a
failing attempt at a relationship"
He is being represented by Jupiter which
is disposed or under the control of Saturn.
Pluto a co-ruler of your second house the
house indicating your future.
Saturn is of course, a maleafic and behaviour
based due to its applying square to Pluto
in your second ( if we consider your future
controlled by him as behavior ).
If he controls your future or at least is
attempting to then its a form of behaviour
modification. Almost I feel a control of his
actions by proxy - your future being the
proxy of his control. Observe Pluto ( 2nd house
co-ruler and Jupiter 2nd house ruler ) is also
retrograde as in held back.
Sagitarius is on the second cusp ruled by
who else ? Jupiter which represents him.
Your second house ( future ) is his 10th house,
or reputation to others, so he is seeking
due to the applying aspects of Saturn
square Pluto, to modify your future.
Not only is Jupiter in a separating aspect
to Mars but there is no aspect from Jupiter
to your Ascendant indicating that he has no
intentions toward you relationship wise.
You ( Mars ) is direct and he ( Jupiter ) is
retrograde indicating different paths.
The separating aspect indicating there is
no future which is supported by his second
house ( your 6th house ) being ruled by
Mars. Jupiter and Mars in separating square
with Uranus ( retrograde and Maleafic ) in
his first house ( your 5th House ). No future
intentions indicated on his part.
"He has given up open declaration" with
Jupiter separating from Pluto - the sextile
gives a transformative aspect and separating
from Jupiter indicating a change to avoid
any extremes. Pluto in the second is your
future and his open reputation and as a
separating influence ( Mercury natural ruler
of the second ) to any verbalisation or
message indicating his intentions.
Does that provide additional assistance ?
Thank you for your kind remarks.
To expand:-
"His ruler Jupiter is disposed by
Saturn in a separating square to Mars indicating a
failing attempt at a relationship"
He is being represented by Jupiter which
is disposed or under the control of Saturn.
Pluto a co-ruler of your second house the
house indicating your future.
Saturn is of course, a maleafic and behaviour
based due to its applying square to Pluto
in your second ( if we consider your future
controlled by him as behavior ).
If he controls your future or at least is
attempting to then its a form of behaviour
modification. Almost I feel a control of his
actions by proxy - your future being the
proxy of his control. Observe Pluto ( 2nd house
co-ruler and Jupiter 2nd house ruler ) is also
retrograde as in held back.
Sagitarius is on the second cusp ruled by
who else ? Jupiter which represents him.
Your second house ( future ) is his 10th house,
or reputation to others, so he is seeking
due to the applying aspects of Saturn
square Pluto, to modify your future.
Not only is Jupiter in a separating aspect
to Mars but there is no aspect from Jupiter
to your Ascendant indicating that he has no
intentions toward you relationship wise.
You ( Mars ) is direct and he ( Jupiter ) is
retrograde indicating different paths.
The separating aspect indicating there is
no future which is supported by his second
house ( your 6th house ) being ruled by
Mars. Jupiter and Mars in separating square
with Uranus ( retrograde and Maleafic ) in
his first house ( your 5th House ). No future
intentions indicated on his part.
"He has given up open declaration" with
Jupiter separating from Pluto - the sextile
gives a transformative aspect and separating
from Jupiter indicating a change to avoid
any extremes. Pluto in the second is your
future and his open reputation and as a
separating influence ( Mercury natural ruler
of the second ) to any verbalisation or
message indicating his intentions.
Does that provide additional assistance ?
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I follow Vedic Astrology while using Horary....a different method from the above methods.
Here the query is for a prospective marriage or not......... or may say it is about if the relation would get closer or not. It being one of the opposite sex, and he intentions are not platonic, I would choose the 1st. and 7th. house.
Acendant Libra: Lord Venus and 7th. lord Mars are having a 6th. /8th. relation with each other...mutually inimical= no chance of proper unity as they are not seeing eye to eye with each others intentions as of present... secretly hostile aspect as they do not see eye to eye regarding the querents problem.
Though both the significators are 6/8 to each other, Mars is in 29 degrees in Taurus (vedic degrees), and will come into the conjunction purview of Venus in Gemini in the 9th. house....... So in future they will see eye to eye.
But in which way? When Mars goes to Gemini it forms 'musaripha' yoga with Venus (saparating conjunction)..... they fall apart after around 11 months from now.
But the strange thing thing is that they will see eye to eye then, and then fall apart.
Now going to detail timings:=
Dec 2009 onwards till June 2010 the differences would be sharper, somehow due the the career/careers in some way.
Approx 10 days from the date of question we arrive at around 28th.Aug 2009(a grace of + 4 days), a 'kamboola' yoga materialises. It is a favorable yoga, and will lead to a development which would prove a gaining ground regarding the querents intentions in some way
Going to the past the relation should have begun around July 2008. Also end March/April it could have got closer.
A confirmation to the past stuff may be given.
RishiRahul
Here the query is for a prospective marriage or not......... or may say it is about if the relation would get closer or not. It being one of the opposite sex, and he intentions are not platonic, I would choose the 1st. and 7th. house.
Acendant Libra: Lord Venus and 7th. lord Mars are having a 6th. /8th. relation with each other...mutually inimical= no chance of proper unity as they are not seeing eye to eye with each others intentions as of present... secretly hostile aspect as they do not see eye to eye regarding the querents problem.
Though both the significators are 6/8 to each other, Mars is in 29 degrees in Taurus (vedic degrees), and will come into the conjunction purview of Venus in Gemini in the 9th. house....... So in future they will see eye to eye.
But in which way? When Mars goes to Gemini it forms 'musaripha' yoga with Venus (saparating conjunction)..... they fall apart after around 11 months from now.
But the strange thing thing is that they will see eye to eye then, and then fall apart.
Now going to detail timings:=
Dec 2009 onwards till June 2010 the differences would be sharper, somehow due the the career/careers in some way.
Approx 10 days from the date of question we arrive at around 28th.Aug 2009(a grace of + 4 days), a 'kamboola' yoga materialises. It is a favorable yoga, and will lead to a development which would prove a gaining ground regarding the querents intentions in some way
Going to the past the relation should have begun around July 2008. Also end March/April it could have got closer.
A confirmation to the past stuff may be given.
RishiRahul
rishirahul thanks for ur reply!
u said the ascendant is libra, but its not.. its scorpio.. therefore im represented by mars right ? did u make a mistake ? im confused because airgon used 5th house as the quesited and u used 7th .. which one is correct?
u were right .. the relationship is sexual and my question "what are his feelings " was in order to see if there;s any future, or if he has more feelings, maybe hidden, for me ..
so..i want to comment to some things u wrote ..i know this man for a year and 8 months more or less , but the sexual relationship started around july 2008 .. so right about that! but i have to tell you that i dont see him often.. its an off and on relationship , basically because of me ... u also said that in end of march /april it could have got closer.. well if u mean in 2008 yes u are right .. at that time the relationship was in a bases of dating, going out ...maybe at that time i didnt pay attention , and just let it go.. and then it turned sexual only.. now if you mean march /april 2009 well.. i dont think so.. i kept him in distance at that time .. why? because i know that's not what makes me happy( just sexual) but i cant seem to avoid it either .. its like he has some power over me
"no chance of proper unity as they are not seeing eye to eye with each others intentions as of present... " by that you mean that we dont tell , or show each other our intentions? is it something hidden ?
"So in future they will see eye to eye. " what to u mean "eye to eye" sorry i dont understand
"they fall apart after around 11 months from now.
But the strange thing thing is that they will see eye to eye then, and then fall apart. " by that u mean that in 11 months from now this will be over? i still dont get what u mean by "eye to eye" maybe its an expression i dont know.
"at around 28th.Aug 2009" whats gonna happen then ?
thanks again
u said the ascendant is libra, but its not.. its scorpio.. therefore im represented by mars right ? did u make a mistake ? im confused because airgon used 5th house as the quesited and u used 7th .. which one is correct?
u were right .. the relationship is sexual and my question "what are his feelings " was in order to see if there;s any future, or if he has more feelings, maybe hidden, for me ..
so..i want to comment to some things u wrote ..i know this man for a year and 8 months more or less , but the sexual relationship started around july 2008 .. so right about that! but i have to tell you that i dont see him often.. its an off and on relationship , basically because of me ... u also said that in end of march /april it could have got closer.. well if u mean in 2008 yes u are right .. at that time the relationship was in a bases of dating, going out ...maybe at that time i didnt pay attention , and just let it go.. and then it turned sexual only.. now if you mean march /april 2009 well.. i dont think so.. i kept him in distance at that time .. why? because i know that's not what makes me happy( just sexual) but i cant seem to avoid it either .. its like he has some power over me
"no chance of proper unity as they are not seeing eye to eye with each others intentions as of present... " by that you mean that we dont tell , or show each other our intentions? is it something hidden ?
"So in future they will see eye to eye. " what to u mean "eye to eye" sorry i dont understand
"they fall apart after around 11 months from now.
But the strange thing thing is that they will see eye to eye then, and then fall apart. " by that u mean that in 11 months from now this will be over? i still dont get what u mean by "eye to eye" maybe its an expression i dont know.
"at around 28th.Aug 2009" whats gonna happen then ?
thanks again
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jeanne29 wrote:rishirahul thanks for ur reply!
u said the ascendant is libra, but its not.. its scorpio.. therefore im represented by mars right ? did u make a mistake ? im confused because airgon used 5th house as the quesited and u used 7th .. which one is correct?
RishiRahul = Both are correct. Depends which system we are sighting with..Western or Vedic. Fensi and Airgon used Western and I, Vedic. The planets are off by 23 degrees here.
u were right .. the relationship is sexual and my question "what are his feelings " was in order to see if there;s any future, or if he has more feelings, maybe hidden, for me ..
RishiRahul= You had mentioned that it is sexual too.
so..i want to comment to some things u wrote ..i know this man for a year and 8 months more or less , but the sexual relationship started around july 2008 .. so right about that!
RishiRahul= Thanks for appreciating the point.
but i have to tell you that i dont see him often.. its an off and on relationship , basically because of me ... u also said that in end of march /april it could have got closer.. well if u mean in 2008 yes u are right .. at that time the relationship was in a bases of dating, going out ...maybe at that time i didnt pay attention , and just let it go.. and then it turned sexual only.. now if you mean march /april 2009 well.. i dont think so.. i kept him in distance at that time .. why? because i know that's not what makes me happy( just sexual) but i cant seem to avoid it either .. its like he has some power over me
RishiRahul=No, I did not mean 2008, but 2009. The fact remains that you kept a distance from March/April 2009.. mean something did happen. I now amend this period. What I had seen was that there was a sudden development in the status of your relation from this period. So this was it!!
From May to August end 2010, the planetary positions are confusing..so you are confused.
"no chance of proper unity as they are not seeing eye to eye with each others intentions as of present... " by that you mean that we dont tell , or show each other our intentions? is it something hidden ?
RishiRahul = Simple English.
"So in future they will see eye to eye. " what to u mean "eye to eye" sorry i dont understand
RishiRahul = Seeing and understanding each others perpective, which are not being seen now.
"they fall apart after around 11 months from now.
But the strange thing thing is that they will see eye to eye then, and then fall apart. " by that u mean that in 11 months from now this will be over? i still dont get what u mean by "eye to eye" maybe its an expression i dont know.
RishiRahul =A female, particularly would really appreciate if her man/friend sees/understands her point of view. Isnt it. And this is your frustration/one of the frustrations.
Wouldnt it be satisfactory for you if he is able to see/understand your point of view and vice versa?
"at around 28th.Aug 2009" whats gonna happen then ?
thanks again
RishiRahul
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