Will I win?

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Will I win?

Post by CuriousMe » Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:54 pm

Hi, im new to this but willing to learn. My question is "Will i win the lottery in the next 6 months?"
4:46:33PM EST
August 3rd, 2009
Windsor, Ontario GMT-5

I believe i read in the "How to" section that it may help if i gave some additional info. So i'll give the low fat explaination why i ask you all this question.

Since i was born my family has noticed im very lucky and anything i choose to go after i get. About a year ago i was told the same by a psychic. About a month ago a shaman told me something similar. So for maybe the past few days, maybe even longer, i've been wondering if i could use this luck to win the lottery. My family has always made me pick lottery numbers, as with my girlfriend's family, but i've never given much thought to actually winning till now.

Thanks in advance.

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Post by Rhutobello » Mon Aug 03, 2009 10:50 pm

The answer is huuummm.
You will surly win if you put your lottery money into a purse, and open it after the 6 month period.

The other thing goes on luck....do you have luck....yes...you are alive...yes..you have food on the table....yes.....

If your question should have any impact on the possibility to win in lottery....I think all our Astrologer would have been well situated...and maybe banned from taking part in any such thing :)

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Post by CuriousMe » Mon Aug 03, 2009 11:04 pm

Thanks so much for the quick reply!

So what im understanding is if you could answer that question for me... then you yourself (or another astrologer) could easily win the lottery themself. Thanks for the insight, and guess i'll just have to go through with it and see. Worst case scenario im a couple bucks short after 6months :P

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Post by Airgon » Tue Aug 04, 2009 12:11 am

Is it possible to get your date, place and time
of birth ? Winning is a complex mechanism as
there are so many variables in addition to the
actual person gambling.

By looking at your natal information and then
applying local transits with the horary question
some accuracy can be obtained.

Typically, windows of 30 minutes or more
can be identified where the time contributes to
the winning of the game.

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Post by CuriousMe » Tue Aug 04, 2009 12:38 am

Sure thing! I was born August 14th 1991 in Windsor, Ontario, Canada.
I was born roughly around 9:30pm

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Post by Rhutobello » Tue Aug 04, 2009 7:48 am

Airgon wrote: Typically, windows of 30 minutes or more
can be identified where the time contributes to
the winning of the game.
Just a thought:

Let say the above thought are right...that you can see the chances who are winning the game drawn by a machine, by looking at one (1) chart.

What about those thousand or millions who attend the same lottery.

Maybe one, or more have a much better chart, that their luck is stronger then the chart you investigate....that their place is of a better benefit then the seekers place and so on......do this thing have any impact at all on who will win?
Do the chances increase if one ask....or is it those who attend that count?

since she talked about a 6 month period...do it count how much she invest in each lottery....how many lottery she attend and so on?

Another question i...what is luck? is it money?

What if you got lost in a desert.....and right before you should die....you got the option to have a billion in gold....or enough water to get out of the desert?
Why was not the gold "luck" this time?  because Luck always change according to your situation, and are not always equal to richness :)
(said since seeker pointed out she had much luck)
I am no Astrologer.....but I try to think....about what is possible or not.....after all...your answer must be yes or no....and that is as known 50%-50% :) (but since so few win...I would say 90 % no and 10 % yes :)

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Post by CuriousMe » Tue Aug 04, 2009 3:34 pm

Thanks again for the reply Rhutobello.
I'm not sure how to answer most of those questions but your right luck does change depending on your own personal situation, and what you'd consider being lucky.
(Also i'm a man not a 'she' :P )
I don't think that it would matter, much, how i invested into the lottery since i'm asking the heavens for the answer they already know how i'd approach going after the lottery...right?
I think in my situation if you have the heavens pointing to me winning or getting what i want or something along those lines it would answer my specific question, as it was tailored to me. Since every question has an answer the moment it is "born"...right? :P
Again i'm still very new to this, but thanks for your different point of view.

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Post by fensi88 » Tue Aug 04, 2009 8:27 pm

I got ASC 24Sag28.
So, you are Ju rx and Moon. To win lottery is 11 house matter (according to J.Frawley) and we must see if there is applying aspect between your rulers with ruler of 11 house, or ruler of 11 house with ruler of your 2nd house, your pocket. We see that Ma, L11 house will square Sa, L2 house indicating delays, obstacles, and struggles. Square aspect  means yes, but at a cost, and in some ways the costs always hurt. Especially in this case where Sa and Ma are not in mutual reception. So, within 6 months there is a little chance for win lottery, after that time chances are better but not great.
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Goca

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Post by Airgon » Wed Aug 05, 2009 1:10 am

Hi Rhutobello,

Let me address some of your concerns.

There are astrologers that do address
winning with one chart. The idea being
that the natal chart, for example,
contains the seed possibility for the
potential win to occur. Then by using
some kind of method such as secondary
progressions where for example ( there
are many kinds ) one puts the planets
one degree ahead for every year of life.
Twenty years old move the planets 20 degrees
forward or back and check what angles
are doing in relation to natal or progressed
planets. For example Progressed Jupiter trine
natal ascendant and natal venus conjunct
the sun.

Lois Rodden used this with good effect in
her analysis of about nine Lotto winners
in her book on Money.

Some astrologers use only the Horary moment
which is more a house based idea. Take ruler
of first and ruler of the fifth and check what
they are doing according to astrological horary
rules. The fifth house being that of "luck"
or "speculation" or "games". THis depends
a little on the game because one has to look
also at the second house - the clients money
house, the seventh house - as the seventh deals
with other people and surely in a winning
situation one is dealing with others except
possibly in say Solataire. The tenth
house is public acknowledgement, the eleventh
public money and the 8th other peoples money.

So it goes on and many astrologers will
use different house values depending not only
on the chart but also the client or their
personal approach to Horary.

My personal approach is to use Natal, Transit
and Horary in one large combined mix. This produces
say the transiting Moon ( trine for example )
the natal Jupiter so there we have a few hours
at the least where the Moon is doing this transit.
Then look also at the Horary and see what the planets
are doing ( say horary venus sextile horary
ascendant ) and this cuts the available period
down from the Moons contribution of some hours to
perhaps a window of 45 minutes. Add other planets
and the window becomes shorter until all the mutual
effects of benefic and maleafic are combined.

By using the natal, transit and the horary charts
one gets a particular time for the individual where
the influences are best for that one person - making
their contribution unique to the lottery as against
say in lotto where there are many thousands of
people involved.

The issue then is in terms of astrological
reasoning is that at my best time versus
another persons best time - are my influences
astrologically stronger than the other persons
assuming that other factors like skill of playing,
actually playing the game etc., all even.
Lois Rodden in her book not only examined natal
and transits but also the effect of the persons
mate ( husband or wife ) natal and transits...
indicating that in the intimacy of the relationship
there is a connection ... and many people will
only do certain activities with certain people
or certain objects that they feel bring them luck.
A special friend or a "lucky jacket" that they always
wear.

Traditionally, Luck is indicated by the fifth house
ruler(s). But in horse racing for example a far
more complex mechanism is used involving weight
of jockey and many other factors.

If you are lost in a desert and unable to play
by denial of access to the game system then that
potential would be unused.

Does this address a few of your questions ?

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Post by CuriousMe » Wed Aug 05, 2009 1:22 am

Wow. Thanks so much for all your time fensi88 and Airgon i really appreciate you taking the time to look in to my question.
Well i told myself that if your response was negative it wouldnt stop me from trying... I got a good feeling about it... you know? :P
I would just like to make sure that this doesnt constitute as a direct "No" but rather more of a "not as quick as you'd like" or maybe "theres still hope"?
I'd just like to get as clear of an answer as possible.

But thank you again for the insight in horary, and goodluck to all of you(hopefully including me too :P )

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Post by Airgon » Wed Aug 05, 2009 1:24 am

Lottery is something to do with the 11th house - the reasoning
I suppose is that 10th house is the public and public
money is second from the 10th which is the 11th house.

That is all well and good but the issue is this. In the past
has this effect worked in predicting wins for this client ?

The best predictions I have personally made are with
clients willing to use a very disciplined approach and
provide years of wins ( long periods of time
where larger planetary movements of progressions
can be understood in relation to the natal and transiting
charts ) and then gamble at a specific place, and
a specific time after discovering for this individual
client is it the 11th or 5th or 8th or 2nd house that
actually predicts the wins?

In addition it may be of assistance for this client
to relocate and gamble in say New Jersey or
Las Vegas or some other place. Many  people
will only gamble in certain locations.

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Post by CuriousMe » Wed Aug 05, 2009 1:31 am

interesting so its hard to tell whether this specific house will work for me considering that this house has different effects on different people.

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Post by Airgon » Wed Aug 05, 2009 2:13 am

Hi CuriousMe,

I got lost in the other questions - but I checked from august 2009
until December 2010. There are only three really good days
although some 10 days are also quite good and should
be seriously considered.

Best day without a doubt - and this is probably what you
are feeling right now - or the anticipation of this is the
20th August 2009.  Then slightly after that is 21st August
2009. The issue here is that we do not know for certain
what your birth time is. In predicting this kind of win I take
the time provided by the client for his or her birth and then
rectify this time to get it exact; a a few minutes difference
in the birth time can shift the window of best possiblility
forward or back an hour or two.

However, assuming that the natal information is correct
Your best time on the 20th of August, 2009 is 11:09 am till
11:14 am - a four minute window of time - on the 21st
August 2009 from 11:05 am until 11:11 am a six minute
window.

When doing the transaction itself as much as possible
attempt to face North West.

This should provide your best chances of winning.
Your next best chance is in December 2010 and then
May of 2010. Neither of which is as good as these
days in August 2009.

Assuming you manage the times and no-one else has
better influences there should be some positive result
( again assuming that for such short windows of
less than 45 minutes the natal time is correct ).

As there is no past history of wins to analyse
and with short windows of time we may have to fine
tune this but this is a good first start.

As always only gamble a dollar or two, way less
than you can affordably loose - way too many
uncertain variables here - so many that this is more
a test of the approach and your discipline in
ensuring the times are adhered to - but probably
not a good idea to totally ignore it when its a dollar
or so.

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Post by CuriousMe » Wed Aug 05, 2009 2:58 am

I'm in awe... thank you so much Airgon. I'll let you know how August 20th goes.

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Post by Airgon » Wed Aug 05, 2009 1:05 pm

You aint seen nothing yet ... :)

This is an okay first step but as always
1. Natal chart needs to be rectified
2. at least 6 months and preferably 2 years of
   wins and losses need to be carefully documented.
3. Client should gamble during windows of
   increased oppurtunity AND other times
   when they feel or are moved to gamble.
   I only use Western charts but there are many
   other approaches like Jyodish ( or Vedic )
   that are exceptionally powerful. The
   problem is that there is only so many hours
   in a day to focus on this.
4. Use of artificial intelligence systems such
   as Neural Nets to predict should also be attempted.

If the client is able to discipline the documentation
to record all activity in terms of wins and losses
by date and time and gamble at the minimum
in the windows of maximum oppurtunity then
a maximised oppurtunity for that client can
be seized. Also periods of time or even days
can be avoided where it is obvious there is almost
no indicator possible for a win.

Most clients are able to do most of this - the issue
for the client really is to gain access to a sustained
astrological service at an affordable price as to
get the exact date, place and time for a larger
win is not easy.

Because horary is involved with this mechanism
I generally get the approximate date as per the
above postings and then on the exact date or possibly
the day before or so do a final horary to
confirm the window of oppurtunity as close as possible.
Especially in situations where there are only 4 minutes
possible which is very small.

I can go on for a long time on this .. :) but at least
an introduction can be attempted.

Imagine - if instead of winning at gambling we were
to apply the same approach to things like romance
or career or whatever.  An interesting thought ...

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