What did he feel for me (on our last date)?

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Bzangel
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What did he feel for me (on our last date)?

Post by Bzangel » Thu Oct 06, 2011 3:05 am

I never know what this guy I'm dating thinks and I have to admit, I sometimes prefer the mystery. SOMETIMES. I've asked a horary though. What did he feel of our last time together, which was Thursday. I'm not yet confident to have "the talk" with him.  

My thoughts below.

I'm Jup Rx, going back in 5th H/dates/romance in Taurus, ruled by Venus. Very fitting as I'm wondering what his thoughts are on that night. I'm also Moon, in my first house, in Capricorn detriment. Perhaps the clutches of Saturn here make me feel cold and still, self-concious of expressing my emotions/keeping them in my 1st house, to myself.

What throws me off just a little is his placement as Mercury in Libra, still very much combust w/Sun and then about to head into conjunction quickly with Saturn. I feel this is him "debating", seeing all sides of our story, making up his mind about me in the relationship house. Perhaps he's just coming out of his fear, about to take a wait-and-see conjunct of stagnation with Saturn and then hopefully crashing head-first into Venus as he leaves that sign. Mercury is currently in 13 deg Libra, in the terms of Venus (my fem. nature?) He heads towards terms of Jupiter. Perhaps this is him going from a physical attraction to something more - my being Jupiter. He's coming to like me more and more as a personality/person?

POF is in the 3rd house, maybe this issue needs more discussion and communication. Him being Mercury and in Libra, willing to see both sides may point to this too. NN is within my 1st house as well.

We are both ruled by a Venusian sign.

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Post by Bzangel » Fri Oct 07, 2011 4:19 am

Can someone please help? I'm really trying but have no idea if what I deciphered here is correct or not?

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Post by Airgon » Fri Oct 07, 2011 11:56 pm

Hi,

I think that your analysis is right, on track, as far as descriptions
go...

But here is a question only you can answer really...

You have taken his house to be the 7th house ( he would
be ruled by Mercury ) and not the 5th of romance ( where
he would be ruled by Venus ) . From your description it sounds
like he is closer to being represented by the 5th House as this
seems to be a romance.  You say you are dating him so perhaps
a commitment seems only to be made in the future ?

Wouldnt this be better seen as a 5th House matter ?

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Post by Airgon » Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:40 am

Just in case anyone is following along here.

My point is that if one is using horary delination
( analysis ) then the fundemental component
of resolution is that we compare the rulers
of the two significators.

So in this case - looking at the supplied chart
first house represents the person asking the
question ( querant ) and the thing being
asked about ( quesited ) is given as 7th house
( we will look at 5th house shortly ).

Ruler of first is Jupiter Retrograde, ruler of
7th is Mercury. Moon squares Mercury and
Moon is in the first house so is a coruler of the
first ( Jupiter being the ruler ).  That square is
a negative or "no" answer - and the question
is being asked about his thinking ... the thinking
would be fundamentally based on a negative.

However if we say that the querant is Jupter Retrograde
as above but the quesitied is 5th House - then we get
Venus as the ruler of the 5th.  Jupiter is in the 5th and
Venus has an applying sextile with the Ascendant -
A positive aspect basing further analysis on a positive.

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Post by Bzangel » Sat Oct 08, 2011 5:50 pm

Airgon wrote:Just in case anyone is following along here.

My point is that if one is using horary delination
( analysis ) then the fundemental component
of resolution is that we compare the rulers
of the two significators.

So in this case - looking at the supplied chart
first house represents the person asking the
question ( querant ) and the thing being
asked about ( quesited ) is given as 7th house
( we will look at 5th house shortly ).

Ruler of first is Jupiter Retrograde, ruler of
7th is Mercury. Moon squares Mercury and
Moon is in the first house so is a coruler of the
first ( Jupiter being the ruler ).  That square is
a negative or "no" answer - and the question
is being asked about his thinking ... the thinking
would be fundamentally based on a negative.

However if we say that the querant is Jupter Retrograde
as above but the quesitied is 5th House - then we get
Venus as the ruler of the 5th.  Jupiter is in the 5th and
Venus has an applying sextile with the Ascendant -
A positive aspect basing further analysis on a positive.
Airgon - nice to meet you! And thank you for taking your time to look at my chart!

I do understand your point. However, I'm just a little confused with the following:

You first said my analysis was pretty much ok. So, I took that to mean, he was basically considering a relationship with me.

Then, you cautioned to choose the right house for him. My learning and experience showed that anytime a person is asked about, they are 7th house querent. It's been consistently right in the past for me. Not just me looking at my own charts, but what others have helped me with. I learned that 7th is a person, open enemy, anyone named, a person of a relationship (defined generally - not nec. "committed") I learned 5th house was a pleasure/date/child/creative pursuits/places of fun/amusement, etc,... ie: If we have a chart that asks about a person and my child for instance, how do we pick which is 5th house?

Now you say if we are to take 5th house for him, it's better - but I thought my first delineation you said was correct.

Sorry for so many questions. I've been truly struggling to learn. :)

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Post by Bzangel » Sat Oct 08, 2011 5:51 pm

Airgon wrote:You say you are dating him so perhaps
a commitment seems only to be made in the future ?
Correct.

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