[quote="Nandini"][quote="rohiniranjan"][quote="rohiniranjan"][quote="Nandini"]I would say it is the protagonist, the child, who is experiencing THE DAY.
Nandini.[/quote]
BINGO on the nativity!
Still missing is the astrological indicator that we were seeking!
Not Lagna :-(
too obvious, 'm afraid...[/quote]
I think, Nandini, that the child in the story is lagnesh! You were close but drifted for a second from planets to houses!
If this were a slightly more advanced story, say for the elder brother (!), then I would even say that one should consider the two indicators, lagnesha planet and the atmakaraka planet.
You see, the child has two aspects in this story! The child changes and yet the child remains unchanged. Each of us in essence have both facets throughout life, the child (sometimes called the inner child that never grows but remains the observer) and the outer persona that grows (the participant).
Please understand this is not coming from any classical tradition or extensive research as some people on this thread are hopefully inadvertantly drifting into, which is sad! What a way to destroy a child's story or a story about the child!
I have always been very taken by the very concept of mid-points. The concept that indicates that between two particles lies a point where the energy field that connects the two particles is balanced, representing a null-point in a magnetic field from our school day experiments in physics. A point which is energetically-speaking (or forcefield if that is more your kind of thing) right where the two magnetic poles are exactly balanced, and a perfect magnetic equillibrium exists or really the point where no magnetism exists!
Modern physics is telling us that particles are connected through subtle energy fields and through these fields receive the information that tells them their place in the universe and also inform them about what else is changing in the universe.
In astrology which in a sense strikes a similar chord, perhaps a null-point to be observed and examined and followed-up is the point between the lagnesha and atmakaraka...
Hopefully, food for thought
Rohiniranjan[/quote]
The Lagnesh or the Atmakarak, would be one of the grahas already mentioned in the story. Wondering what new understanding that could bring in.
If the Lagnesh is Mars, then the child would be fascinated by the bus and how it works and consider the driver as his hero. The bus ride would perhaps be the best time of the day for him.
If the Lagnesh is Venus, then all day in school the child would be looking forward to entertainment time.
If the Lagnesh is Mercury, then the child would go to school reading in the bus, come back reading in the bus and during entertainment time be busy reading ....
Very different experiences of the same day with the same events.
Though we are using the term Atmakarak all the time, I think most of us can hardly differentiate it from the Lagnesh. Your presenting it as the child in us that remains a child, a sattwik, an observer, is a seed.
Wondering how the day will change if Mars is the Atmakarak.
Nandini.[/quote]
Absolutely not Asro
I am very glad that you shared your views on this thread. Nandini's views expressed on jupiter etc make good sense. Atmakaraka is definitely different from lagnesha in terms of expression. And, you tuned into the keyword of mars very well: energy and assertiveness. Assertiveness must not be confused with aggressiveness which is generally an indicator of restraint (saturn) influencing martian energies.
Some believe that when two charakarakas are in the same degree (irrespective of the minutes and seconds etc, so let us say atmakaraka and amatyakaraka both in the 27th degree of different rashis) then one of them takes a backseat and does not express itself. Others believe that the strength of the charakarakas based on a variety of factors indicate whether they will express strongly or at all. Other nuances exist too.
Many scholarly articles have been written on charakarakas with different viewpoints and from different angles. One should study these (they are only a google away!) and then pick a few charts and try to apply the principles. If something sticks, grab it, if it does not, toss it away or put it in the backpack and move on to the next article. Experience is gained when we test the rocks as we climb them, one step at a time. But cautiously because sometimes the rocks are not firmly embedded and one risks a fall
