HORA VARGA

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Post by Rohiniranjan » Thu May 17, 2012 4:06 pm

RishiRahul wrote: ...

Dada,

I dont think so, as I think Raman is a very direct person.
My guess is that he is quite focussed In Jyotish; some one unconventional too.

His thread about 'unconventional marriages' attracted much controversies
:smt003, as usual.

I guess it is better to srtike a fair balance about 'diplomatic' :smt002

Rishi

Okay I will take your word for that. I hardly know him. You do :-)

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Re: HORA VARGA

Post by RishiRahul » Thu May 17, 2012 4:18 pm

Rohiniranjan wrote:
RishiRahul wrote: ...
The following mentioned..." my instinct tells me that Swarbhanu gets reconstituted together and the characteristics change!"...

I was wondering that if Swarbhanu gets constituted in vargas (of course D2 may be an exception), then how can the characteristics change!?

Rishi

Dear Rishi,

I tend not to take pauranic-mythological accounts too literally, but consider those as 'multi-dimensional' accounts and hints which perhaps have meanings deeper and more complex and not superficial and obvious -- although they are about 'individuals' (human and other entities). And, I do not take them overly religiously!

Lunar nodes have been associated with 'separative' and 'dissociative' attributes and were the result of the scission by Lord Vishnu of the entity Swarbhanu.

There are vargas in which rahu and ketu end up in the same house (D16, D20, D24, D30, D45, D150 and a few others). There must be some mathematical 'pattern' or correlation behind that. It is a surmise, a consideration that in these vargas, the two polarities namely the nodes coalesce and either change their intrinsic nature or attributes or become 'neutralised'.

Light, Love,

Oh! I thought you were talking of the nodes being in the same house in natal and varga. :smt017

Yes, the meaning of mythology (stories) may not be as simple/direct as it seems to many. I take hints from there.......
These RR's are getting me crazy :)
Let us not talk beyond D 60, as some higher entity may come running...

Rishi

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Re: HORA VARGA

Post by Rohiniranjan » Thu May 17, 2012 5:33 pm

RishiRahul wrote:
Rohiniranjan wrote:
RishiRahul wrote: ...
The following mentioned..." my instinct tells me that Swarbhanu gets reconstituted together and the characteristics change!"...

I was wondering that if Swarbhanu gets constituted in vargas (of course D2 may be an exception), then how can the characteristics change!?

Rishi

Dear Rishi,

I tend not to take pauranic-mythological accounts too literally, but consider those as 'multi-dimensional' accounts and hints which perhaps have meanings deeper and more complex and not superficial and obvious -- although they are about 'individuals' (human and other entities). And, I do not take them overly religiously!

Lunar nodes have been associated with 'separative' and 'dissociative' attributes and were the result of the scission by Lord Vishnu of the entity Swarbhanu.

There are vargas in which rahu and ketu end up in the same house (D16, D20, D24, D30, D45, D150 and a few others). There must be some mathematical 'pattern' or correlation behind that. It is a surmise, a consideration that in these vargas, the two polarities namely the nodes coalesce and either change their intrinsic nature or attributes or become 'neutralised'.

Light, Love,

Oh! I thought you were talking of the nodes being in the same house in natal and varga. :smt017

Yes, the meaning of mythology (stories) may not be as simple/direct as it seems to many. I take hints from there.......
These RR's are getting me crazy :)
Let us not talk beyond D 60, as some higher entity may come running...

Rishi

I doubt if most of us kaliyugi degenerates even respond to higher vargas! Those are reserved for specially evolved folks!

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Post by Acubens » Fri May 18, 2012 6:16 pm

Rohiniranjan wrote: You do :-)
I think that for the common good we must consider a few examples
which are clearly seen periods of success and failure for the acquisition
of wealth by Hora Varga.

I can provide and its:

Natal Chart

Date:          August 2, 1972
Time:          18:03:26
Time Zone:     3:00:00 (East of GMT)
Place:         37 E 53' 38", 47 N 57' 37"
                Donetsk, Ukraine
________________________

Let's consider this example, the ups and downs in the financial sphere.

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Post by Rohiniranjan » Fri May 18, 2012 10:15 pm

Acubens wrote:
Rohiniranjan wrote: You do :-)
I think that for the common good we must consider a few examples
which are clearly seen periods of success and failure for the acquisition
of wealth by Hora Varga.

I can provide and its:

Natal Chart

Date:          August 2, 1972
Time:          18:03:26
Time Zone:     3:00:00 (East of GMT)
Place:         37 E 53' 38", 47 N 57' 37"
                Donetsk, Ukraine
________________________

Let's consider this example, the ups and downs in the financial sphere.

Sure Accubens, please go ahead! I do not know which post or in what context are you using the quoted fragment 'you do'! :-)

But certainly, your approach is correct, whether it is for general good or whatever...!

But first before involving others in the validation exercise, you must explain a bit more about the birth time you have posted. 18:03:26 seems like a rectified birth time using some method, some ayanamsha etc. Please tell us a bit more about that and details of how you or someone arrived at that birthtime and from which original birthtime and the source of the original etc.

Validation must begin with some explanation of the validity of the test-data. Won't you agree?

Looking forward for your test results but first the data quality details.

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Post by Acubens » Sat May 19, 2012 6:44 am

Rohiniranjan wrote: Looking forward for your test results but first the data quality details.
Thank you.

I am a hot research Vedic Astrology.
I live in Ukraine and talk at the Forum Sri Jagannath Center - http://www.vedic-astrology.ru/forum/index.php?act=idx

The time of birth on label is 18:05.
I rectify my card.
I am studying over 10 years Jyotish and  familiar with various techniques of rectification by Tattva, Pranapada, Mandi, Kunda, etc.

So I ask  do not doubt the accuracy of the time of birth.

ॐ नमः शिवाय

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Post by RishiRahul » Sat May 19, 2012 7:33 am

Acubens wrote:
Rohiniranjan wrote: Looking forward for your test results but first the data quality details.
Thank you.

I am a hot research Vedic Astrology.
I live in Ukraine and talk at the Forum Sri Jagannath Center - http://www.vedic-astrology.ru/forum/index.php?act=idx

The time of birth on label is 18:05.
I rectify my card.
I am studying over 10 years Jyotish and  familiar with various techniques of rectification by Tattva, Pranapada, Mandi, Kunda, etc.

So I ask  do not doubt the accuracy of the time of birth.

ॐ नमः शिवाय

Hi acubens,

So we have another friend doing research with interest! Yes, we do see you on and off sometimes.

I was wondering on researching this new technique of D2, collectively.
If you read my quote below my suggested method (not as a moderator) as a fellow researcher will be better understood if we go through a previous quote:
RishiRahul wrote:This Hora Varga mathod suggested by RR ji is very good for further experimenting.

Only 'sharp' cases, like turning very rich, or poor should be brought in; preferably of 'known' birth times.
If a person has become 'poor' for a short time is not good for such research.

So people may post such birth times.

RishiRahul
Can we have some past incident of this nature, like a financial downfall or rise, which continued for some long time

Just a suggestion though.

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Post by RishiRahul » Sat May 19, 2012 7:37 am

Rohiniranjan wrote:
RishiRahul wrote: ...

Dada,

I dont think so, as I think Raman is a very direct person.
My guess is that he is quite focussed In Jyotish; some one unconventional too.

His thread about 'unconventional marriages' attracted much controversies
:smt003, as usual.

I guess it is better to srtike a fair balance about 'diplomatic' :smt002

Rishi

Okay I will take your word for that. I hardly know him. You do :-)

Regards,
Dear Dada,

I missed this post, somehow.

Well, not too sure. That's what he seems like. Dont you think so? Through Mb writings.

Rishi

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Post by Acubens » Sat May 19, 2012 10:18 am

RishiRahul wrote:Can we have some past incident of this nature, like a financial downfall or rise, which continued for some long time
I considered that there are researchers who know what is to be done to determine the periods of material growth and Vice versa - release.

Of course, I can think of a time when I started the financial recovery, but I would like that the forum users,
who are sure that they know how it should be interpreted Hora Varga, will be able to determine this for yourself.

Agree, it is very often the case that the result is simply "adduce far-fetched".

And I would like to stick to the purity of the experiment.

I hope You understand me.

ॐ नमः शिवाय

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Post by Rohiniranjan » Sat May 19, 2012 11:42 am

RishiRahul wrote:
Rohiniranjan wrote:
RishiRahul wrote: ...

Dada,

I dont think so, as I think Raman is a very direct person.
My guess is that he is quite focussed In Jyotish; some one unconventional too.

His thread about 'unconventional marriages' attracted much controversies
:smt003, as usual.

I guess it is better to srtike a fair balance about 'diplomatic' :smt002

Rishi

Okay I will take your word for that. I hardly know him. You do :-)

Regards,
Dear Dada,

I missed this post, somehow.

Well, not too sure. That's what he seems like. Dont you think so? Through Mb writings.

Rishi
It is my experience that on the internet only a facet of an individual can be seen. I tend not to judge a person too seriously based on their tip of the iceberg that shows up on internet.

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Post by Rohiniranjan » Sat May 19, 2012 1:05 pm

Acubens wrote:
Rohiniranjan wrote: Looking forward for your test results but first the data quality details.
Thank you.

I am a hot research Vedic Astrology.
I live in Ukraine and talk at the Forum Sri Jagannath Center - http://www.vedic-astrology.ru/forum/index.php?act=idx

The time of birth on label is 18:05.
I rectify my card.
I am studying over 10 years Jyotish and  familiar with various techniques of rectification by Tattva, Pranapada, Mandi, Kunda, etc.

So I ask  do not doubt the accuracy of the time of birth.

ॐ नमः शिवाय

Dear "Accubens",

Very pleased to hear about your interest in research on vedic astrology in Ukraine. Unlike you, I am not a 'hot' anything and never claimed to. I do love the field of Jyotish and would love to hear more about some of your 'research' that you have carried out. :-)

It is not that I did not trust you, but when I see birthtime stated upto seconds, I always ask if it has been rectified. As it turns out, that was the case in your case too.

Please note that I had shared the Hora order for people to test since it is experimental and I never claimed anything more. If you find it useful, use it, if not, then there are already many other versions of Hora and other vargas. One or the other may suit your needs.

I hope the above is satisfactory, in case you had some other 'impressions' :-)

Love, Light, Levity,

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Post by Acubens » Sat May 19, 2012 1:33 pm

Rohiniranjan wrote: Very pleased to hear about your interest in research on vedic astrology in Ukraine. Unlike you, I am not a 'hot' anything and never claimed to. I do love the field of Jyotish and would love to hear more about some of your 'research' that you have carried out.
Dear Rohiniranjan, it seemed to me that you know how to count Hora vargas,
not only in theory but in practice, and are ready to show how it's done.

Sorry if I'm wrong.

I am a productive research!

ॐ नमः शिवाय

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Post by Rohiniranjan » Sat May 19, 2012 1:56 pm

Acubens wrote:
Rohiniranjan wrote: Very pleased to hear about your interest in research on vedic astrology in Ukraine. Unlike you, I am not a 'hot' anything and never claimed to. I do love the field of Jyotish and would love to hear more about some of your 'research' that you have carried out.
Dear Rohiniranjan, it seemed to me that you know how to count Hora vargas,
not only in theory but in practice, and are ready to show how it's done.

Sorry if I'm wrong.

I am a productive research!

ॐ नमः शिवाय
Dear Accubens,

Research is a big word and I do not use it lightly :-)

Love, light, Levity!

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Post by Acubens » Sat May 19, 2012 2:34 pm

Rohiniranjan wrote: Dear Acсubens,
Research is a big word and I do not use it lightly :-)
Love, light, Levity!
A letter "с" superfluous ...

Dear Rohiniranjan, we have many have written.
I have confirmed that provided by the card rectified and accurate.
If there is a desire, can we start?

When, in Your opinion, is material growth and descent?
And why?
And please write how You come to this?

And on my part I will write.

That will Research!

ॐ नमः शिवाय

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Post by RishiRahul » Sat May 19, 2012 2:40 pm

This is not a reading thread

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