How is direction from where a person gets his spouse is predicted ??

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Post by manali_thakar » Mon Jul 13, 2009 7:01 am

Dear friends,

The seventh house from Venus has to be examined thoroughly to predict the nature of the spouse and from where and who will bring this spouse to the life of the native. Three factors need to be analyzed:
1.      The seventh lord from Venus
2.      The planets in the seventh house from Venus
3.      The nature of the sign in the seventh house from Venus
the seventh house from Venus brings the spouse. The lord of the house needs to be examined first. The nature of the planet will indicate the kind of person who will come into the native’s life. One will need to see the planets conjoining and aspecting it as this will modify the characteristics. The placement of this planet from the karaka Venus indicates the intrinsic relationship pattern between the native and the spouse. If this seventh lord from Venus is placed in a dustana from it, the relationship may be riddled with difficulties and obstacles. If well placed in trines or kendra there will be a basic harmony in the bonding.
One must examine the tatkalika sambandha between the seventh lord from Venus and Venus, between this planet and the lagna lord and the seventh lord. As was mentioned before, the seventh lord from Venus is the bringer of spouse, and hence its relationship with the significator of love and marriage is crucial. The lagna lord is the self, so the relationship between the two needs to be harmonious. The seventh lord will actually bring about the marriage, so the correlation between the two has to be supportive. If these three associations are promoting the relationship, only then will a particular relationship materialize.  
Planets in the Seventh House from Venus
The planets in the seventh house from Venus will show the kind of person who will come into a person’s life. For example, Saturn can show someone who is much older in age, hard working and belonging to a tradition. Ketu can show a spiritual person or maybe an astrologer. Venus can show someone belonging to the entertainment industries or the arts or the management or private sector. The Sun can show a person who has leadership and administrative qualities. In this manner one can examine all the planets. Similarly the sign in the seventh house from Venus should be analyzed. For example, Saturn and Mars’ signs are not good environments for Venus.
The fifth house from Venus needs to be scrutinized in a similar manner. This is important because the fifth house is that of love and affection. The trines are ruled by akash tatva which bind individual atmas together and ensure there is harmony in a relationship. Without this love and affection relationships cannot be sustained as the seventh house denotes only sexuality.
Planets in the seventh house from the darakarak and the karakamsa are also indicative about spouses. The seventh from the Karakas will show what the atma seeks in a spouse, while the seventh from the Darakaraka will show the qualities which our partners seek in us.  
7th lord from venus in sthir rashi=spouse will be found nearby
7th lord from venus in dwiswabhav rashi= less distance
7th lord from venus in char rashi= long distance

i hope it will help a lot to understand the the topic.

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Post by bondbond333 » Mon Jul 13, 2009 8:17 am

Dear Manali thakar,

It all sounds interesting but other aspects like UL need to be considered. But where did u get all this information ? If you got it from other site kindly quote it and mention the source also so that every one can take a look.

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Post by asro » Mon Jul 13, 2009 9:26 am

Hi Manali

Thanks  Manali for your inputs, esp for the info that you have shared with us. Also if possible culd you shed some info if possible as how can one use Nakshtra  in addition/combination to what you have stated.  

Does any other member know if Nakshtras represent direction like the planets or rashi. Please to share with us

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Asro

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Post by bondbond333 » Mon Jul 13, 2009 10:16 am

Dear Asro Ji
Does any other member know if Nakshtras represent direction like the planets or rashi. Please to share with us
i think the directions order is South, west, north, East starting from Aswini and again repeating.

Hope some one confirms this.

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Post by prashanth_ram2002 » Thu Dec 27, 2012 4:31 pm

thanks for the information, Manaliji

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Post by biltu » Thu Dec 27, 2012 6:23 pm

manali_thakar wrote: The planets in the seventh house from Venus will show the kind of person who will come into a person’s life. For example, Venus can show someone belonging to the entertainment industries or the arts or the management or private sector.
Fatal error happen on that Astro Horoscope :smt003

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Post by Rohiniranjan » Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:11 am

biltu wrote:
manali_thakar wrote: The planets in the seventh house from Venus will show the kind of person who will come into a person’s life. For example, Venus can show someone belonging to the entertainment industries or the arts or the management or private sector.
Fatal error happen on that Astro Horoscope :smt003

HAHA! If I understand what you cryptically meant Biltu, and provided you quoted the old post correctly -- indeed, if venus is in seventh from venus in any given chart and in the same varga (D1, D9, D5, D7...etc) then the program that was producing such a horoscope must be reinstalled and if the error appears again (namely, two venuses in the same varga!) then it is time to acquire a properly coded software!  :smt004

But, that brings one INTERESTING and INTRIGUING astro-calc-reality about which hardly anything gets written!

In many vargas Rahu and Ketu appear in the SAME HOUSE (SIGN in Varga).  Anyone has any THOUGHTS on that or EXPERIENTIAL OBSERVATIONS to SHARE...?  :smt017

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Post by RishiRahul » Fri Dec 28, 2012 3:35 am

Yes, that is where mistakes are made.

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Post by mysbcrs » Fri Dec 28, 2012 5:35 am

biltu wrote:
manali_thakar wrote:

The planets in the seventh house from Venus will show the kind of person who will come into a person’s life. For example, Venus can show someone belonging to the entertainment industries or the arts or the management or private sector.


Fatal error happen on that Astro Horoscope
Logical conclussion can also be that the spouse can never be industrious at entertaining! :smt005

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From Manali to Biltu and BACK... to KARAKAMSHA

Post by Rohiniranjan » Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:32 pm

mysbcrs wrote:
biltu wrote:
manali_thakar wrote:

The planets in the seventh house from Venus will show the kind of person who will come into a person’s life. For example, Venus can show someone belonging to the entertainment industries or the arts or the management or private sector.


Fatal error happen on that Astro Horoscope
Logical conclussion can also be that the spouse can never be industrious at entertaining! :smt005

CRS
Logic is a beautiful thing, sadly, often misused in JUST JEST :smt003

But perhaps before we dismiss this altogether, a simple experiment (sadly, demands some WORK! Meaning: poring through real charts from databases etc (sorry, but no other way there -- Even pedestrian-quality intuition would not do...!)   :-(

In Jyotish there is the mention of something called karakamsha
Two variants have been proposed:
One is taking the navamsha sign of atmakaraka and creating a sub-horoscope based on navamsha chart in which atmakaraka navamsha (naturally with AK in it!) is considered the first house and the other navamsha placements placed as per navamsha or D9 or V9 varga. Simply stated, the D9 chart rotated so that AK is in the first house of such a chart.

The OTHER (Mr. KN Rao proposed that I believe) involves finding the navamsha sign of the atmakaraka and then using the sign chart (D1 or kshetra varga) noting its placement in navamsha and rotating the D1 chart so that that sign becomes the first house. In other words if moon is AK and placed in cancer sign in D1 but virgo navamsha, the karakamsha chart is drawn with virgo in first house and the rest of the planets placed in other houses as per their SIGN placements (as per D1).

In the second kind of Karakamsha, (SIGN Karakamsha), venus will remain in the sign where he was in D1 and so venus in 7th from venus would not work.

Using the navamsha-karakamsha, if navamsha-venus falls in the 7th from Sign-venus (for example venus in aries sign and libra navamsha), then navamsha-venus (marriage related!) will fall in the seventh from natal or D1-venus!

Would this situation lead to a partner-spouse in entertainment or similar industries as Manali proposed...?

It also follows that if venus is placed in signs which start with the same sign-navamsha (aries, cancer, libra for instance), then if it (venus) is in the 7th navamsha then spouse-partner would be connected with the entertainment (or other venusian) industry etc.

OR PURRHAPS JEST a TYPO that Manali made...? :smt004  

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Post by biltu » Fri Dec 28, 2012 6:20 pm

manali_thakar wrote: The planets in the seventh house from Venus will show the kind of person who will come into a person’s life. For example, The Sun can show a person who has leadership and administrative qualities.
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Rohiniranjan wrote:if the error appears again (namely, two venuses in the same varga!) then it is time to acquire a properly coded software!
I think that software need to be re-code properly. Because Sun cannot be place in 90 degree from Venus Image
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Post by RishiRahul » Fri Dec 28, 2012 7:16 pm

Oh! I thought it was a virus saying abort, etc, etc.

A novel way to provoke thoughts and learn........As I realise now

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Post by Rohiniranjan » Sat Dec 29, 2012 1:23 am

RishiRahul wrote:Oh! I thought it was a virus saying abort, etc, etc.

A novel way to provoke thoughts and learn........As I realise now

RishRahul

Yes, Rishi and perhaps geometry must be added to math for Jyotish afficianados!

After all, 90 is 90 degrees behind 180 degrees -- the '7th' placement that we all were talking about! :smt017

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Post by Rohiniranjan » Sat Dec 29, 2012 3:10 am

biltu wrote: ...

I think that software need to be re-code properly. Because Sun cannot be place in 90 degree from Venus ...
No, Biltu -- actually it is a lot simpler!

Atmakaraka can be the *key* really, once we begin to see it as the KEY that opens the locks that BLOCK our PERCEPTION and thereby -- REALITY...?

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