Certain wrote:I agree with you that retrogradate planets doesnt do bad or nullify good as they are many a times advised. Astrology is mostly endangered by cook-book astrologers. Context is very important to analyse the interpretation.Rohiniranjan wrote:Since no one has the time for astrology, these days (!)
I looked into this retrograde/dignity matter and interesting things emerged!
The popular belief is that retrogression can influence planets particularly reversal of debility and/or exaltation.
If you look at Naomi Judd (Karka lagna - retro mars in debility) and Frank Budd (karka lagna - retro mars exalted) in rodden database (astrodienst has released it in public domain) you will find that both of them did very well during mars dasa and were celebrities in the fields of music and athletic sport (Sprinting).
Jyotish is full of 'one liner' opinions and such sweeping statements for example, "if yogakaraka is retrograde, it becomes powerless or even malefic".
PLEASE, if one is serious and sincere about jyotish, tread with healthy scepticism and caution, because sooner or later one would be giving 'advice' and suggestions during astrological readings, privately or publicly. Please be serious about that role and responsibility.
Adding on ... another interesting instance in this ongoing exploration of retrogrades has been Cassius Clay/Muhammed Ali. He has three planets retrograde, jupiter, saturn and venus. He gained a lot of fame as well as his religio/political persona and phase in life during rahu dasa but narrowly escaped five years term in jail. Pretty much what one would expect during rahu dasa (not saying that ALL will attain all that that Ali did just because rahu dasa is on...!). Jupiter is a malefic in this chart but also indicates spiritual growth which too was seen during jupiter dasa. Towards the last leg of jupiter his health condition became apparent and the bundle of energy became trapped and confined by parkinsonism. By 1985 retrograde saturn in 10th had its impact on him in an increasing manner. A quiet semi-private life with the limelight turned on him and his (OUR as humans!) vulnerabilities when he carried the Olympic torch in 1996 and the biographical movie in 2001 and finally the autobiography, "Soul of a butterfly", released just as saturn ended and mercury began. Fascinating chart to study. A good case for the key planets in tenth and also the jupiter in badhaksthana (talked about recently).
Love, Light, Learning
Rohiniranjan
Exalted retrograde Saturn will fare very differently in the context of becoming a sportman or becoming strategy maker vs a project manager or becoming an auditor.
Tools should be analysed with respect to work being ventured into.
Good hammer (Normal Planet) vs biggest and strongest (exalted)hammer of the world can not unscrew a nut from wall , you need screw driver for that.
It might break the wall with ugly broken patches in it.
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My my! Such martial vibes in the air now a days
Even exalted shani, retrograde now (by the way) with rahu too in tula cannot contain and restrain the fire of mars 'aspecting' saturn and rahu despite budhaditya in kumbha!
How timely, that this topic came up, at this time and being discusses at so many different levels!
This is music, nay a concert, perhaps a symphony!
Just like a horoscopic reading! Not a dead collection of musical instruments but a strumming of strings, a 'thaap' on some tabla, a breath skillfully entering the inside of a flute or a clarinet with its buttons-keys getting pressed! The genesis of music!!
Of course hammers, screwdrivers and nails and even power-tools and drills and saws would be needed or the stage for the concert or symphony would never ever get launched!
Jai ho Shukra Bhargav Dev. He is hosting both saturn and rahu at this time!!
[[OOPS! Forgot to mention that MA and Brihaspati are also in the other guesthouse of Shukradev and powerfully aspecting the antics that are going on in the MAIN CASTLE of Bhargava: Tula...!]]
Love, Light, Serious Levity!