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Post by manali_thakar » Wed Jan 21, 2009 3:42 am

Dear astroboy,
no, i m running through mars mahadasa and moon antardasa.

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Post by life2007 » Wed Jan 21, 2009 3:44 pm

Hello Manali....

Nice intresting article on retro planets.  As mentioned by you, the below chart has the most difficult retro SAT in 4th house...

Could you highlight some technical study on this chart for our knowledge? There are some comments but I shall write them after you make the first analysis.  

One more point the retro SAT is actually the lagna for this chart. So does SAT becomes benefic or retains its original malefic status. I have read somewhere, regardless of the nature of the planet, lagna is always benefic.

DOB: 30.12.1972   TOB: 11:19 AM   POB: Palghat, Kerala  Lat:10:36N Long 76:42E

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Post by asro » Thu Jan 22, 2009 3:39 pm

Hi manali,

could you also shed some light on retrograde planets placed in signs of exaltation or debilitation ?


warmly
Asro

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Pls advise on my chart of retrogation

Post by loveanbu » Fri Feb 13, 2009 3:43 am

Hi Sir,

I am under kadaka lakna, the jupitor at 5th house under retrogation. currently the guru desa started. How it works for me this desa. pls advise me.

DOB 24-05-1971 11.01am, Pattukkottai, Tamil Nadu, India.

Thanks in advance

A. Anbu

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Post by prasanna » Sat Feb 14, 2009 5:01 am

Dear loveanbu,


                As  stated by Raman in another  thread, U have to post your details in reading  forum for getting your answer. This is the discussion forum, here chart readings are not  given.


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Post by Certain » Wed Feb 18, 2009 7:15 am

Things confused me here...can someone tell me is retrograde mars and retrograde jupiter good or bad for this horoscope and what effect they are gonna give...
because in following horoscope natural benefic jupiter is as such malefic per lagna and naturally malefic Mars is kendradhipati so what to think in such situation...
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Post by manali_thakar » Wed Nov 10, 2010 6:56 am

Retrogression of Planets
Planets from the point of view of the earth will tend to be slowing down and become apparently stationary when the relative position between earth and the concerned planet and the sun are in one line. Then they appear to move backward in the sky this motion is known as retrograde motion of the planets. This apparent retrograde movement is due to the motion of the earth’s orbit. The Sun and the Moon never retrograde. Rahu Ketu always move in retrograde motion. Retrograde planets in the natal chart or ephemeris are marked by R or Rx. Mars R or Jupiter Rx both indicates that these planets were retrograde at the time of the chart. Saturn retrogrades for 140 days and remains stationary 5 day before and after.

Jupiter retrogrades 120 days is stationary 5 days before and after.
Mars retrogrades for 80 days and is stationary 3 to 4 days before and after.
Venus is retrograde for 42 days and is stationary approximately two days before and after.

Mercury retrogrades for 24 days and is stationary one day before and after.
Each planet has it’s own percentage of time when it must retrograde. They are Saturn 36.39%, Jupiter 30.24%, Mercury 19.76%, Mars 9.33% and Venus 7.22%.

The Sanskrit name for retrograde planets is known as Vakriya. Vakriya means twisted, crooked, winding, roundabout, indirect, evasive and ambiguous. Vakra Asana in Yoga twists the body from back to front. Usually this Asana are done to strengthen the spine and make them flexible. The potential of the retrograde planets is to be flexible, to twist thing around, to make them unclear, to teach its message in an indirect way, to view life in a different way to others. By doing it correctly they can strengthen themselves and become adaptable, original, innovative and different. On the negative side they can be twisted thinkers, crooked and dishonest. The individual can deal with the quality of their retrograde planets in a positive manner or can use their potential in a totally negative way. The essence there is, to do good or bad in the planet but it is up to the individual to use this in the right way.

Rahu Ketu are forever moving backwards and this has lead to them being described negatively in the classics. But they also have the potential to view everything in a complete different manner and therefore can be quite innovative and make individual reach heights that they never thought they would conquer, by going against the normal. Rahu Ketu are usually comfortable with their nature as they only travel the retrograde way. Sun and Moon always go direct so it is only the five other planets, which are used to going direct usually that can turn retrograde.

The five planets Mars, Mercury, Jupiter, Venus and Saturn express the practical reality of our life. They are the planets that form the Pancha Mahapurusha Yoga that bestows greatness on earth. They rule the Pancha Mahabhutas, the five primary elements that influence our physical body but also sheath the eternal consciousness. These elements control our organs of desires, emotions and senses. They can keep us grounded in gross reality but if we start to use their energy spiritually they become infused with a different power.
Retrograde planets influence the primary structure of the human consciousness and its relationship with its human life. By blocking the "chakras" and then interfering with the Pancha Mahabhutas, they create disconnection and imbalances, inability to control the senses. An individual has to understand the retrograde planets and nurture them to bring back harmony.

Vedic Astrology classics say that retrograde planets are strong. The quality of the planet changes when it turns retrograde. Retrograde planets are closest to earth; therefore their impact on the individual is the strongest. In what respect they are stronger? What would be their effect? Two influences of retrograde planets need to be taken into account – their affect in the natal chart and by transit. The individual with retrograde planets does not always know how to control its energy. Therefore they struggle to express the planets qualities - over-emphasizing them or being in denial of their positive qualities or misusing their power. Knowing how to deal with the retrograde in the natal chart is the key. Retrogrades by transit can influence everyone whether we have them in our chart or not. A straight thinking person can suddenly change their ways under the influence of retrograde Mercury. So we all have to learn to cope with the retrograde transit and be aware of them annually.

A planet in debilitation if retrograde acts like an exalted one and an exalted planet like a debilitated one. The reason: debilitated planets have the potential to be unethical and negative, when they twist around, they start behaving in the opposite manner. Whereas an exalted planet is a good one, when it gets twisted it inherits the potential do bad. The benefics which are usually the positive, influences can become ambiguous, non-spiritual, disobedient by being retrograde, whereas the malefic can definitely become more negative due to their retrogression. Controlling the malefics in Vakriya, is a lot more difficult. The main aspect which has been noticed about retrogrades is that they do not follow tradition and in the ancient times when astrology was written, those who did not follow tradition were considered bad and unethical. Whereas now, we honour those who go outside the box, who are non- traditionalists. So the influence of retrogrades has to be thought from the point of view of the society and times we live in. Also we must celebrate their potential to be original, different, according to their karakas, and at the same time try to control their negative aspects.

Also we should not forget the houses the retrograde planets rule. Retrograde planet's dasha can bring about health issues; they also can bring diminishing returns. The start of the dasha may appear very good, but the quality of the dasha can reduce as it progresses.

In astrology, a planet in retrograde motion has special significance. The effects that the planets produces when in retrograde motion are far different than the ones they exert while moving directly. In the horoscopes, retrograde planets acquire special power and effects, while in retrograde motion at the time of birth. Theses are known as `Vakriya` planets in Hindu astrology. Usually the retrograde planets in our horoscope are depicted with R in front of its position in chart.

Mercury, Venus, Jupiter, Mars and Saturn turn retrograde at regular intervals. They generally move direct, then for a certain time period they appear to, slow down and seem stationary for a long time, apparently stationary retrograde. At this time their powers are at their highest. Then they, apparently, move retrograde, giving erratic and more prominent effects. After a particular time span, they again seem to slow down and apparently, seem to be stationary, what we call stationary direct. Then they once again acquire a direct motion.

Whenever a planet starts in a motion other than the normal course, it yields unusual effects as well. In general, the fields ruled by these planets suffer the major influence. For example, communication hazards will be more during Mercury retrograde. Accidents due to rashness will be enhanced during Mars retrograde and so on.

Hence, each planetary retrogression should be considered as a time to be cautious, and to consider things from a different viewpoint.

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Post by fivezero7 » Fri Dec 03, 2010 6:46 am

Namaskar all,

I have logged on after quite a long time. sorry for that.

just continuing with the retrograde discussions, what would be the difference if a planet is both retrograde and combust at the same time in the lagna kundali?

what can be done in such a situation?

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