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Planetary war

Post by ahmd » Mon Oct 04, 2010 6:13 am

Hi, :)

I am new to this forum and to Vedic astrology, and I hope to get a general idea about the planet Venus. Even in Western astrology, Venus is associated with artists, actors etc. I am assuming it is the case with VA as well. I read something on the net that in VA, 10th house controls profession.

What if the native has both Mercury and Venus in 10th (Sagittarius)? Does this indicate conflict of some sort - because Mercury is generally associated with the intellect whereas Venus is the exact opposite?

I'd like to hear your thoughts on this.

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Post by prasanna » Tue Oct 05, 2010 7:03 am

*Moon, Jupiter and Venus in the 10th house—beautiful; very brave; endowed with sons and friends; has abundant wealth earned by his vast intelligence.

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Re: Planetary war

Post by astro_scholr » Tue Oct 05, 2010 11:27 am

ahmd wrote:Hi, :)

I am new to this forum and to Vedic astrology, and I hope to get a general idea about the planet Venus. Even in Western astrology, Venus is associated with artists, actors etc. I am assuming it is the case with VA as well. I read something on the net that in VA, 10th house controls profession.

What if the native has both Mercury and Venus in 10th (Sagittarius)? Does this indicate conflict of some sort - because Mercury is generally associated with the intellect whereas Venus is the exact opposite?

I'd like to hear your thoughts on this.

THanks,
Ahmed
Mercury and venus are close friends they never get into war. If these planets in 10th house then person is artistic, analytical.
again depends on strength of planets and house situated
result can be different if 10th house is virgo, 10th house is pisces.
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Re: Planetary war

Post by ahmd » Tue Oct 05, 2010 11:58 am

astro_scholr wrote:
ahmd wrote:Hi, :)

I am new to this forum and to Vedic astrology, and I hope to get a general idea about the planet Venus. Even in Western astrology, Venus is associated with artists, actors etc. I am assuming it is the case with VA as well. I read something on the net that in VA, 10th house controls profession.

What if the native has both Mercury and Venus in 10th (Sagittarius)? Does this indicate conflict of some sort - because Mercury is generally associated with the intellect whereas Venus is the exact opposite?

I'd like to hear your thoughts on this.

THanks,
Ahmed
Mercury and venus are close friends they never get into war. If these planets in 10th house then person is artistic, analytical.
again depends on strength of planets and house situated
result can be different if 10th house is virgo, 10th house is pisces.
10th is Sagittarius, so I am assuming Venus is debilitated there. What I mean by war is they are different from each other according to the usual description. Venus is sensual whereas Mercury is spiritual, and so on.

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Post by prasanna » Tue Oct 05, 2010 2:27 pm

Dear Ahmd,

  In Sagittarius Venus is not debilitated, it is debilitated in Virgo . Venus, Mercury and Sun are referred as Tripods in Astrology and usually they are seen together only . Just see charts, u will know this. Very much close to each other. In Virgo Mercury is exalted . Sagittarius is the place where no planets get either debilitation or exaltation and it is house of  Guru. Guru is called Minister of Devas , Dev Guru , and Venus is Guru of Asuras. As Astro brother said, Mercury and Venus are friends and not enemies.

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Post by kandhan.t » Fri Oct 08, 2010 6:32 am

my limited understanding of planetary wars is: planets are divided into two groups deva and asura based on their guna.

deva: sun, moon, mars, jup
asura: venus, merc, sat

rahu and ketu are not included in planetary wars.  when planets from one group are conjunct with those in another group, planetary war takes.  Opinion differs on which of the planets emerges victorious.  

When this happens with sun as a participant then combustion takes place with sun emerging as winner.

Mercury in general is influenced by the planet/s that it conjuncts with.  In case of venus/merc conjunct there should not be any planetary war since both belong to asura group and mercury supports venus here.

Experts please correct me.

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Post by prasanna » Fri Oct 08, 2010 6:54 am

Dear Kandan ,

 Your  views  or understanding over  this planetary war  is correct. U can write more too . Wish U happy learning. Kindly learn more on this  please .

The below article is speaking  about Combustion, Planetary  war Retrogression, just ignore the chart which it is dealing with, try to grasp the info there please.



Combustion is a state of being and is another AVASTHA
like retrogression. In combustion the planet loses its own Rays whereas a
planet in retrogression is full of Rays (Venus being the exception). Thus
the combustion of a planet indicates its lack of influence on the chart by
way of its natural nature and the planet shall be obliged to work for the
sun alone and its significations. It shows a person who is under the
dominating influence of a superior in the matters related to the
signification of the planet. For example if Venus is combust, the artistic
side can be lacking whereas if Mercury is combust the learning abilities are
clouded or simply focused on the activities of the sun (Dharma) and other
learning is not present or not of much consequence.

In the converse if a planet is retrograde, then its influence is very strong
as it tends to initially give a strong desire and then abilities as well but
not the results. The results are very difficult to achieve as the person is
over ambitious in matters related to it and has very high GOALS. For example
Saturn is my AK and is retrograde. This shows traditional learning as well
as a strong desire and almost impossible goals to achieve in matters
pertaining to the tradition. I expect too much from everybody in terms of
sincerity and dedication to Jyotish and sometimes this can be very painful.

Now what happens in Graha Yuddha? Can a combust planet win? Yes it can. Take
an example. If four planets conjoin (as in the case of one of this list
members), it shows spirituality of a high order and if one of them is
combust and also ahead of the Sun, then it defeats the Sun and although due
to the combustion the native shall be very spiritual or interested in Dharma
and such learning, Sanyasa Yoga cannot occur and renunciation will not
happen in this life. Thus combust planets cannot give Sanyasa as the rays
are not original and the desires pertaining to its significations are
generally suppressed or absent. suppression of desires is not the path to
spirituality, getting over them is true spirituality.


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Post by kandhan.t » Fri Oct 08, 2010 11:25 am

Prasanna ji

Thanks for the information.

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Post by prasanna » Fri Oct 08, 2010 11:39 am

you are welcome dear Kandan . I wish to  add more info in this . I edited the names and chart  details in this article  for our easy understanding of only info .


In a chart, where there is a planetary war/ graha yuddha between mars and rahu and when Mars wins the war over rahu - does that mean that
mars takes over all power of rahu in the chart. How will this manifest in the native's life? Could someone interpret what results it will
give for a pisces ascendant with mars and rahu in 9th (scorpio)? Does Mars still remain a yogakaraka because it is involved in a planetary
war? So what kind of results would mars mahadasha and rahu mahadasha give?

No replacement of lordships happen in a planetary war. During their dasas the native feels as if they are undergoing an intense struggle, and the
winner will decide whether the person is defeated or comes out as a winnerin this matter. Invariably the dasas of these two planets are inauspicious.
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Planetary war is defined as - a planet may get into a planetary war when placed within one degree of longitude from
another planet. You said it is not applicable to nodes. Could you please let me know the effect of themars rahu conjunction in the 9th house of her chart?
Is it akin to an eclipse?


seems to imply that Rahu is engaged in  planetary war  with Mars? Certainly we can say that a particular planet may be > eclipsed by a Node, or that it may be combust by Sun > but, to the best > of my knowledge, neither the luminaries nor the > nodes are involved in > planetary war (as such). I'd be grateful if you
could clarify your > meaning when you say; "Rahu in Planetary"...??

Some scriptural reference would also be appreciated


Source : http://www.indiadivine.org/audarya/vedi ... chart.html
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Post by kandhan.t » Sun Oct 10, 2010 4:31 am

Prasannaji, here is my rather amusing interpretation of the above:

Maybe what Visti implies is that since Rahu represents lord of the sign, the effect is akin to planetary war of Rahu and Mras between Mars and lord of the sign.  the trouble with this interpretation is if lord belongs to the deva group  :)

The query regarding yogakaraka has kindled a desire in me to ask any of the learned members to start a topic on yogakaraka(if it has already not been done). G.S. Kapoor ji in interpretation of many charts in the book"Remedial Measures in Astrology" considers yogakarakas also malefic and causing the problem in question.  This got me confused.  I was under the impression that the energy of yogakaraka is desirable for the native.

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Post by prasanna » Fri Oct 15, 2010 8:33 pm

Dear Mr Kandan ,


Yogakaraka planet gives benefic results of a bhava during transit and  his Mahadasha and Antar Dasha.However his drishti in Natal chart does not necessarily give result contrary to his natural Benefic/Malefic nature. It should also to be understood that a great deal of logic has to be applied to find out exactly what is likely to happen. This is one school of thought regarding Yoga karakas .

A yogakarak planet will change your life, most often in a positive way. Even if a malefic planet like Saturn is your Yogkaraka, its dasha may test you a bit but it will still bring positive change to your life. This thought I feel rite always .


U please go thru the below  link,  U can get some idea about Yogakaraka planets. Nice link which  explains  your doubt  as well as my doubt too. . Now Iam feeling better about my understanding . But according to my  understanding Yogakaraka satrun's drishti must be  beneficial to  the native .I strongly   believe in this .Because I have this aspect in one of my close relative's chart and I wish my understanding about  this position should be favorable to me, I do pray for this .  , I have to wait and see the results.  

http://www.learnjyotish.com/phpBB3_0/vi ... ?f=1&t=353


Thanks  for your nice query  and regards,
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Post by kandhan.t » Sun Oct 17, 2010 6:53 am

prasannaji


thanks for the informational link.  
i am just thinking aloud here(learned members please correct me): it confirms what i have understood till now: yogakaraka is good for the native, whether he desires it/likes it or not. at the soul/karmic level. not neccessariliy at materialistic level. if there is confluence of other factors(strengths, aspects) then there is material prosperity too.

now, if the function of yogakaraka is as above, then what is the difference betwen YK and atmakaraka?  atmakaraka also teaches important lessons. in areas represented by AK the native acts like god which is detrimental to selfrealisation. so the choice is his to change his behaviour in this aspect.  however, in case of YK, the element of choice it not present.

but when we come to medical astrology and yogas what is the position?  is this yogakaraka concept  applied to these two areas or is natural tendencies of grahas are taken into consideration?

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Post by prasanna » Wed Oct 20, 2010 3:08 am

Dear Mr Kandan ,

Let us first learn more on Yoga karaka,  then we can see the differences between Yoga karaka and Atma karaka  please. U have asked me to raise topic on Yoga karaka I felt from your above posts if Iam not wrong. . In this thread I find U and me conversing  a lot. Please keep this in mind first., Iam a  learner Only., not any expert.  

Lordships of Kendras and Konas. If there be an exchange between a Lord of a Kendra and a Lord of a Kona, or, if a Lord of a Kendra is yuti with a Lord of a Kona in a Kendra, or in a Kona, or, if a Lord of a Kona is in a Kendra, or vice versa, or, if there happens to be a full Drishti between a Lord of a Kendra and a Lord of a Kona, they cause a Yoga. One born in such Yoga will become a king and be famous.

For rajayoga, various kinds of associations between Kendra and Kona lords are narrated here, they are:

  1.

     Conjunction between lord of Kendra or Kona
  2.

     Exchange (lord of Kona in Kendra and lord of Kendra in Kona)
  3.

     If Kendra lord is in Kona or Kona lord is in Kendra.
  4.

     Mutual aspect between lords of kendra and kona


13. If one and the same Graha gets the lordships of a Kona, as well as a Kendra and is placed in a Kendra, or in a Kona, it will prove specially a Yoga Karaka.

If a Kona lord also happens to be Kendra lord and placed in a Kendra or Kona, becomes a special yogakaraka (bestower of yoga). A yogakaraka needs to be placed in a Kendra or Kona to become specifically a strong yoga karaka, bestowing affluence.

Tradition teaches that the placement of a yogakaraka in the house it is a karaka of gives auspicious results. Thus Yogakaraka Saturn is placed in the 12th house for Taurus Lagna becomes extremely auspicious, even if it is debilitated.

14. Lordship of Kendra. It has been said, that a malefic, owning a Kendra, will become auspicious, which is true, only when it simultaneously Lords over a Kona and not by merely owning a Kendra.

It has been mentioned earlier that natural malefics owning Kendra can bestow auspicious results, however this is possible only of it simultaneously owns a Kona and its mere lordship of a kendra does not make it auspicious.

This sloka is often misinterpreted. Many take Malefics as auspicious just by their virtue of owning kendra, however Maharishi Parashara makes it clear that such malefic should simultaneously lord over a Kona.

15. If the Lords of a Kendra or a Kona own simultaneously an evil Bhava, he does not cause a Raja Yoga by mere relations stipulated (as per Ch. 34, Slokas 11 and 12).

For a rajayoga to form, the lord of the Kendra or the Kona should not simultaneously rule a trishadaya.


16. Rahu and Ketu give predominantly the effects, as due to their yuti with a Bhava Lord, or, as due to the Bhava they occupy.

Nodes give their results based on their conjunctions or their placements (is there are no conjunctions).

17. If Rahu and/or Ketu are in Kendra, receiving a Drishti from, or in association with the Lord of a Kona, or of a Kendra, it will become Yoga Karaka.

Nodes become yogakarakas if

  1.

     They are placed in Kendra and aspected by a lord of Kona.
  2.

     They are associated with lord of a Kendra or a Kona.


18. O Maharishi Parashara, please narrate, according to the Rāśis rising, as to which Graha is a Yoga Karaka and which is inauspicious.

19-22. Grahas and Mesh Lagna. O Brahmin, listen to these with examples. Even though Mangal is the Lord of Randhr Bhava, he will be helpful to auspicious Grahas. Śani, Budh and Śukr are malefics. Auspicious are Guru and Sūrya. The mere Yuti of Śani with Guru will not produce auspicious effects (although they own a Kona and a Kendra). If Guru is at the disposal of a malefic, he will surely give inauspicious results. Śukr is a direct (independent) killer. Śani etc. will also inflict death, if associated with an adverse Graha (Śukr).


Here Maharishi Parashara starts narrating about the Yogakarakas and marakas for each lagna. They are as follows:

Aries Lagna:

  1.

     Sun: Sun is the lord of the 5th house and hence a auspicious planet
  2.

     Moon: Moon is the lord of kendra, hence suffers with Kendradhipatya dosa. However based on whether Moon is benefic or malefic based on its paksha bala, we would know if Moon is really suffering from Kendradhipatya dosa.
  3.

     Mars: Mars is the lord of lagna and the 8th house. Since 8th lordship is neutral, it be a auspicious planets for the lagna. However due to 8th lordship it will not participate in any rajayogas.
  4.

     Mercury: Mercury is the lord of 3rd and 6th house and being the lord of 2 trishadaya, it is a first rate malefic.
  5.

     Jupiter: Jupiter is the lord of 9th and the 12th house. Since 12th house is a neutral house, it is a auspicious planet, being the lord of a Kona.
  6.

     Venus: Venus being the lord of two maraka sthanas 2nd and 7th lord becomes a primary maraka, an independent killer.
  7.

     Saturn: Saturn is the lord of 10th and 11th house. Being the lord of a Kendra and a malefic, it would have been a auspicious planet (to some extent) however due to its lordship over 11th house a trishadaya, it is neutral to the lagna. Being the lord of a trishadaya it will not participate in any rajayoga. Thus its association with the Jupiter the 9th and 12th lord, shall not bestow the benefits of Dharma Karmadhipati yoga on the native.


Bhavartha Ratnakara says:

  1.

     A Sun-Moon combination confers rajayoga
  2.

     Venus is a maraka
  3.

     Jupiter becomes a maraka if he occupies Capricorn
  4.

     A Jupiter-Saturn association doesn’t confer a rajayoga
  5.

     An Aries native will have fear of diseases (especially smallpox), weapons and injuries
  6.

     If Mars conjoins Mercury, death by brain disease occurs in his dasa and bhukti
  7.

     This is the only lagna where it’s great if the 2nd lord is in the 12th; this isn’t the case with any other lagnas
  8.

     A Mars-Venus combination can be both favourable and fatal
  9.

     Mars, when conjoined with Jupiter and Venus in Taurus, becomes a yogakaraka
 10.

     If the above combination occurs in Gemini, there isn’t any yoga
 11.

     If Mars conjoins Jupiter in Cancer, he becomes a yogakaraka
 12.

     Mars will prove a benefic during his dasa if he’s in Leo
 13.

     Jupiter in Aquarius won’t automatically give good results in his dasa
 14.

     A Mercury-Mars combination in Virgo gives the native skin diseases, eruptions and wounds
 15.

     The native will possess self-earned wealth if Mars and Venus are in Libra
 16.

     Mars, if in conjunction with Sun and Venus in Scorpio, will confer some fame
 17.

     There’s a special yoga produced when Mars, Sun and Jupiter are in Sagittarius, with Venus and Saturn in Libra
 18.

     Venus confers a rajayoga if he’s in lagna with the Sun and unaspected by Jupiter
 19.

     Sun will become a yogakaraka when aspected by Jupiter; the same can’t be said for Venus when she’s aspected by Jupiter
 20.

     A Sun-Mercury-Venus combination in Aquarius is a fortunate combination, with all three conferring riches during their dasas and bhuktis
 21.

     When Sun is in lagna and Moon in Cancer, the native enjoys a rajayoga
 22.

     A Sun-Jupiter-Venus combination in Capricorn helps the native enjoy dips in holy rivers like the Ganga


23-24. Grahas and Vrishabh Lagna. Guru, Śukr and Candr are malefics. Śani and Sūrya are auspicious. Śani will cause Rajayoga. Budh is somewhat inauspicious. The Guru group (Guru, Candr and Śukr) and Mangal will inflict death.

Taurus Lagna

  1.

     Sun: Sun is the lord of 4th house is auspicious, due to shedding off its maleficence owning a Kendra.
  2.

     Moon: Moon is the lord of 3rd, a trishadaya, hence an inauspicious planet for the lagna.
  3.

     Mars: Mars is the lord of 7th and 12th house. Since 12th lordship is neutral and 7th is a marakasthana, it becomes a maraka, a death inflictor. However due to lordship over a Kendra, it is also a auspicious planet.
  4.

     Mercury: Mercury is the 2nd and 5th lord. 2nd lordship is neutral; hence mercury is auspicious being the lord of the 5th house. However being the 2nd lord, it still retains its sting of maraka.
  5.

     Jupiter: Jupiter is the 8th and 11th lord; both are inauspicious lordship, hence for this lagna this planet is inauspicious.
  6.

     Venus: Venus is the Lagna and the 6th lord. 6th lordship shall make the planet inauspicious; in addition, the due to the lordship of Lagna, a Kendra, it suffers from Kendradhipatya dosa. Hence it is inauspicious for the lagna.
  7.

     Saturn: Saturn is the lord of 9th and 10th house and hence a yoga karaka. Since it is the primary karaka for the 8th and 12th, its placement in these houses shall bring out the rajayoga. In addition to this its association with other Kendra or Kona lord shall also cause rajayoga, however the other planet should not suffer due to lordship of 3rd, 6th, 11th and 8th.


Bhavartha Ratnakara says:

  1.

     Neither is Saturn a yogakaraka, nor do Sun and Mercury confer any fortunes if they’re in lagna
  2.

     If there’s a Mars-Jupiter combination in Capricorn or Rahu is in Aquarius, the native enjoy dips in holy rivers like the Ganga
  3.

     Moon is capable of producing a yoga when posited in Leo and aspected by either Jupiter or Mercury
  4.

     Mars, when in 7th, is a benefic. If Sun and Jupiter are conjoined in Pisces, long life is indicated
  5.

     A Jupiter-Mercury association causes dhana yoga
  6.

     The above dhana yoga is destroyed if either planet is aspected by Mars
  7.

     There will be debts during Mercury’s dasa if there’s an association between Mars, Jupiter and Mercury
  8.

     Jupiter’s dasa will give mixed results whereas Mars’ dasa gives wealth. If Mercury is in a quadrant, the native is blessed with happiness during its dasa
  9.

     If Mercury and Venus are in lagna and Jupiter is in Scorpio, Mercury dasa will be fortunate
 10.

     If Mars and Venus are in lagna, and Jupiter is in Capricorn, both Mercury’s and Jupiter’s dasas will be fortunate
 11.

     If Saturn, Mercury and Mars are in Capricorn, and Rahu in Pisces, the native enjoy dips in holy rivers like the Ganga during the dasas of Mars and Rahu
 12.

     If Moon and Venus are in Libra, with Jupiter and Mercury in Pisces, Jupiter dasa will cause a dhana yoga
 13.

     Lots of wealth are indicated in the Venus dasa
 14.

     Moon in lagna isn’t very auspicious, and will afflict other dhana yogas present in the chart
 15.

     The native becomes very fortunate if Moon is in the lagna of any sign other than Taurus



25-26. Grahas and Mithuna Lagna. Mangal, Guru and Sūrya are malefics, while Śukr is the only auspicious Graha. The Yuti of Guru with Śani is similar to that for Mesh Lagna. Candr is the prime killer, but it is dependant on her association.

Gemini Lagna

  1.

     Sun: Sun is the 3rd lord and is inauspicious.
  2.

     Moon: Moon is the lord of 2nd house and hence a maraka. However it is not an independent killer, like Venus for Aries Lagna; it is dependent on association.
  3.

     Mars: Mars is the lord of 6th and 11th house and is extremely inauspicious.
  4.

     Mercury: Mercury is the lagna as well as the 4th lord and hence suffers from Kendradhipatya dosa. It is not inauspicious; the most can be said for this planet is that it shall be neutral.
  5.

     Jupiter: Jupiter is the lord of 7th and 10th house and being a first rate benefic owning a Kendra, it becomes inauspicious for the lagna. However, he is relinquished from the dosa, if it forms yoga with Kona lord Venus.
  6.

     Venus: Venus is the 5th and 12th lord. 12th being a neutral lordship, lordship of 5th shall make Venus auspicious for this Lagna.
  7.

     Saturn: Saturn is the 8th and 9th lord. Even though it is auspicious due to the lordship of 9th house and 8th being neutral, it will not cause any raja yoga by its association with a kendra lord, since it co-lords 8th house.


Bhavartha Ratnakara says:

  1.

     The placement of Sun and Mercury in Leo proves fortunate in Mercury’s dasa
  2.

     A Venus-Moon-Mars conjunction in Cancer results in wealth during the Venus dasa
  3.

     There will be mixed results during Saturn dasa if Mars is in Cancer, with Moon and Saturn in Capricorn
  4.

     With the above planetary placement, Mars confers wealth during his dasa
  5.

     If Mars and Saturn are in Cancer and Moon in Capricorn, the native’s prosperity and wealth get mostly destroyed during the dasas of Mars and Saturn
  6.

     Despite being the lord of 2nd, Moon isn’t a maraka
  7.

     When Saturn is in Aquarius and there’s a Mars-Moon conjunction in Aries, a powerful dhana yoga results
  8.

     If Saturn and Jupiter are in Aquarius, the native enjoy dips in holy rivers like the Ganga during the dasas of Jupiter and Saturn
  9.

     When Mercury is in Aries, misunderstandings with elder brother are indicated



27-28. Grahas and Kark Lagna. Śukr and Budh are malefics, Mangal, Guru and Candr are auspicious. Mangal is capable of conferring a full-fledged rajayoga and giving auspicious effects. Śani and Sūrya are killers and give effects, according to their associations.

Cancer Lagna

  1.

     Sun: Sun is the lord of the 2nd house, which being a neutral house shall make Sun, a neutral for this Lagna. However, being the lord of the 2nd house, it is also a maraka. Since it is not a full maraka, not owing the 7th house, it shall give results based on association.
  2.

     Moon: Moon is the lagna lord, hence is auspicious.
  3.

     Mars: Mars is the lord of 5th and 10th and is a yogakaraka. It is capable of giving full fledged rajayoga if it’s conjoined with other kendra lord or kona lord or placed in a kendra or kona. Placement in one of its own houses shall also give good rajayoga.
  4.

     Mercury: Mercury is the lord of 3rd and 12th house. Being the lord of 3rd house it is inauspicious; while 12th is neutral.
  5.

     Jupiter: Jupiter is the lord of 6th and 9th house and hence a neutral planet. It will not give rise to rajayoga by associating with any kendra lord.
  6.

     Venus: Venus is the lord of 4th and 11th lord. It is suffering from Kendradhipatya dosa and is the owner of a trishadaya too, which makes it an inauspicious planet for this lagna.
  7.

     Saturn: Saturn is the lord of 7th and 8th house, hence a maraka. 8th lordship of Saturn is neutral, whereas 7th lordship makes him a maraka. Since it is not a full maraka, not owing the 2nd house, it shall give results based on association.


Bhavartha Ratnakara says:

  1.

     While Mercury proves fruitful, Jupiter doesn’t cause any yoga
  2.

     Mars is a yogakaraka, and even more so if posited in either of his own houses
  3.

     Venus can also be a benefic, but only if he’s posited either in Leo or Gemini
  4.

     If Mars, Jupiter and Moon are in Leo, with Sun and Venus in Scorpio, the native will become wealthy and fortunate
  5.

     If Mercury and Venus are in Scorpio, Mercury confers fortune during its dasa
  6.

     If Mercury, Venus and Moon are in Gemini, Jupiter in Cancer and Sun in Aries, the result is a maha rajayoga and will definitely make the native a king.
  7.

     If Sun and Mars are in Aries, the native will always be wealthy. Death results during the Jupiter dasa.
  8.

     If Mercury and Venus are in Gemini, Venus dasa will prove fortunate.
  9.

     A Jupiter-Moon conjunction in lagna will make the native famous and fortunate.
 10.

     When Moon is in lagna, rajayogas are produced when either Mars is in Capricorn, Saturn is in Libra, or Sun is in Aries.
 11.

     When there’s a combination of Sun and Mercury in lagna, Venus in Libra, and Moon-Mars-Jupiter in Taurus, the native becomes bankrupt during the Sun dasa, while other dasas will be good.
 12.

     If Mercury and Jupiter are in Taurus, and Saturn and Rahu are in Scorpio, the native enjoy dips in holy rivers like the Ganga during the Rahu dasa.


29-30. Grahas and Simh Lagn. Budh, Śukr and Śani are malefics. Auspicious effects will be given by Mangal, Guru and Sūrya. Guru’s Yuti with Śukr (though, respectively, Kona and Kendra Lords) will not produce auspicious results. Śani and Candr are killers, who will give effects, according to their associations.

Leo Lagna

  1.

     Sun: Sun is the lagna lord, hence is auspicious.
  2.

     Moon: Moon is the 12th lord, hence is neutral for the Lagna.
  3.

     Mars: Mars is the 3rd and 10th lord, an inauspicious as well as auspicious bhava, making it a neutral planet.
  4.

     Mercury: Mercury is the 2nd as well as 11th house. 2nd lordship is neutral whereas 11th lordship is inauspicious making Mercury an inauspicious planet. In addition it is a maraka, being the lord of 2nd house; however such results are given based on association.
  5.

     Jupiter: Jupiter is the 5th and 8th lord hence an auspicious planet. However due to its ownership of 8th house, it is incapable of giving rajayoga.
  6.

     Venus: Venus is the 4th and 10th lord and is a yogakaraka. Thus it is capable of giving yoga with right association and placement.
  7.

     Saturn: Saturn is the lord of 6th and 7th house, which makes it inauspicious. Even though, it owns a kendra, it should have shed its maleficence however, due to its ownership of 6th, it is unable to do it.


Bhavartha Ratnakara says:

  1.

     Sun-Mercury-Mars or Sun-Jupiter-Mercury conjunctions indicate wealth, whereas only a Sun-Mercury combination indicates moderate fortunes.
  2.

     A Jupiter-Venus combine causes destruction of other yogas.
  3.

     Venus can’t produce yoga. However, he becomes a benefic when in Libra but a malefic when in Taurus.
  4.

     If there’s a Sun-Mercury-Mars conjunction in lagna, the Mercury dasa brings in much wealth.
  5.

     The Saturn dasa will be fortunate if there’s a Saturn-Mars combination in Cancer.


31-32. Grahas and Kanya Lagn. Mangal, Guru and Candr are malefics, while Budh and Śukr are auspicious. Śukr’s Yuti with Budh will produce Yog. Śukr is a killer as well. Sūrya’s role will depend on his association.

Virgo Lagna

  1.

     Sun: Sun is the lord of 12th house, hence neutral.
  2.

     Moon: Moon is the lord of 11th house, hence inauspicious.
  3.

     Mars: Mars is the lord of 3rd and 8th houses. Here 3rd lordship is inauspicious, while 8th lordship is neutral, making it a inauspicious planet for the lagna.
  4.

     Mercury: Mercury is the lord of Lagna as well as 10th. 10th lordship is neutral whereas Lagna lordship makes it auspicious planet for this lagna.
  5.

     Jupiter: Jupiter is the 4th as well as 7th lord, both suffering due to Kendradhipatya dosa, hence mildly inauspicious. However while joins with a Kona lord, it shall become yogakaraka and shed it mild maleficence.
  6.

     Venus: Venus is the 2nd as well as 9th lord, hence auspicious for the Lagna. Its association with Mercury can cause powerful Dharma-karmadhipatya yoga. Its association with Jupiter can also cause raja yoga, though of lesser order.
  7.

     Saturn: Saturn is the 5th and 6th lord, hence shall be neutral. Due to lordship of 6th house, it is incapable of causing rajayoga due to association with Kendra lords, Mercury or Jupiter.


Bhavartha Ratnakara says:

  1.

     A Sun-Moon-Venus association will bring in lots of wealth during the Sun dasa
  2.

     The native loses wealth during the Venus dasa. Mixed results can be expected during the Moon dasa
  3.

     When Moon and Venus are in Pisces, with Jupiter in Cancer and Sun in Aries, during the Jupiter and Venus dasas, the native will have multiple wives, who will all be alive. Virgo natives possess women of high rank
  4.

     A Jupiter-Venus combine in Sagittarius produces fortunes during their dasas and bhuktis
  5.

     If Saturn is in Cancer, its dasa will be fruitful




33-34. Grahas and Tula Lagna. Guru, Sūrya and Mangal are malefics. Auspicious are Śani and Budh. Candr and Budh will cause Rajayoga. Mangal is a killer. Guru and other malefics will also acquire a disposition to inflict death. Śukr is neutral.

Libra Lagna

  1.

     Sun: Sun is the lord of 11th house, hence inauspicious.
  2.

     Moon: Moon is the lord of 10th house, hence capable of giving rajayoga.
  3.

     Mars: Mars is the lord of 2nd as well as 7th house, hence becomes the primary maraka and inauspicious.
  4.

     Mercury: Mercury is the lord of 9th and 12th house, hence auspicious.
  5.

     Jupiter: Jupiter is the lord of 3rd and 6th house and is extremely inauspicious for this lagna.
  6.

     Venus: Venus is the lord of Lagna as well as 8th. Due to the blemish of 8th house, it is incapable of participate in any rajayogas. However, nevertheless it is a auspicious planet, since its 8th lordship is neutral, whereas lagna lordship is auspicious.
  7.

     Saturn: Saturn is the lord of 4th and 5th house and is a yogakaraka. Based on its placement and association, the yoga shall fructify. It can associate with Moon or Mercury to give rajayoga. Even its placement in the 12th or 8th house shall give yoga too, since it is the karaka for these houses.


Bhavartha Ratnakara says:

  1.

     Saturn is a yogakaraka. Though lord of 3rd and 6th, Jupiter is also capable of producing yogas
  2.

     Mars doesn’t become a maraca, although it lords the 2nd and 7th houses
  3.

     If Jupiter and Venus are associated or are aspected by Saturn and Mars, during the Jupiter or Venus dasas and bhuktis, the native suffers from skin infections and wounds
  4.

     If Sun and Mercury are in Virgo and aspected by Saturn, the father will be fortunate
  5.

     If Mars is in association with Sun, Saturn and Mercury, it produces immense good
  6.

     If Sun, Mercury and Saturn are combined with either Moon or Mars, a rajayoga is produced
  7.

     If there’s a Sun-Venus-Mercury combination in lagna, the native gets very fortunate and wealthy
  8.

     If in lagna there are Mercury, Saturn and Venus, or the Moon and Mars in Aries, the Mercury dasa will prove fruitful
  9.

     The presence of Mars and Mercury in Leo, Jupiter in Taurus and Saturn in Gemini creates a rajayoga
 10.

     If Moon is in lagna with Jupiter either in Virgo or Pisces, the Saturn dasa brings in wealth and fortune
 11.

     Venus becomes a maraca if he’s in the ascendant
 12.

     If the Saturn is in lagna and Moon in Cancer, a rajayoga results
 13.

     If Saturn, Jupiter, Mercury and Mars are in Aquarius, and Rahu is in Cancer, the native enjoy dips in holy rivers like the Ganga during the Rahu dasa



35-36. Grahas and Vrischik Lagn. Śukr, Budh and Śani are malefics. Guru and Candr are auspicious. Sūrya, as well as Candr are yogakarakas. Mangal is neutral. Śukr and other malefics acquire the quality of causing death.

Scorpio Lagna

  1.

     Sun: Sun is the lord of 10th house, hence is mildly auspicious. It is capable of causing yoga since it doesn’t lord over 3rd, 6th, 11th or 8th.
  2.

     Moon: Moon is the lord of the 9th house, hence is auspicious.
  3.

     Mars: Mars is the lord of Lagna as well as the 6th house, thus making it neutral. It is incapable of involving in any rajayoga too.
  4.

     Mercury: Mercury is the lord of 8th and 11th house, hence inauspicious.
  5.

     Jupiter: Jupiter lords over 2nd and the 5th house, hence is auspicious. However it still is a maraka, which is more dependent on its association.
  6.

     Venus: Venus is the lord of 7th and 12th house, hence is a maraka, stronger than Jupiter. It can inflict death based on its association.
  7.

     Saturn: Saturn is the lord of 3rd and 4th house, an inauspicious house and another neutral house, thus making it an inauspicious planet for this lagna.


Bhavartha Ratnakara says:

  1.

     An association of Jupiter and Mercury brings in wealth
  2.

     If Jupiter is in Capricorn, the native will be charitable
  3.

     If Sun, Mercury and Venus are in Taurus, the Mercury dasa confers lots of fame and power
  4.

     When Jupiter and Mercury are in Pisces with Moon in Virgo, the native will be fortunate
  5.

     If there’s a Jupiter-Moon-Ketu combine in Cancer, the Ketu dasa will be ordinary but the Jupiter dasa excellent


37-38. Grahas and Dhanu Lagna. Only Śukr is inauspicious. Mangal and Sūrya are auspicious. Sūrya and Budh are capable of conferring Yoga. Śani is a killer, Guru is neutral. Śukr acquires killing powers.

Sagittarius Lagna

  1.

     Sun: Sun is the lord of 9th house, hence is auspicious.
  2.

     Moon: Moon is the lord of 8th house. Since Moon does not suffer from blemish of 8th lordship, it is neutral.
  3.

     Mars: Mars is the lord of 5th and 12th house, hence auspicious.
  4.

     Mercury: Mercury is the lord of 7th and 10th house, both Kendra. Since Mercury suffer with Kendradhipatya dosa only to a small extent, Mercury is neutral for this lagna. However it can participate in the rajayoga. Association with Sun, the 9th lord can cause a first rate rajayoga.
  5.

     Jupiter: Jupiter is the lord of the lagna as well as the 4th house. Due to 4th lordship it suffers from Kendradhipatya dosa, however its lagna lordship is auspicious, thus making it a neutral planet.
  6.

     Venus: Venus is the 6th as well as 11th lord, thus a first rate inauspicious planet for this lagna.
  7.

     Saturn: Saturn is 2nd and 3rd lord, hence inauspicious. It is a maraka too, being the lord of 2nd house.


Bhavartha Ratnakara says:

  1.

     Saturn, when in Aries, confers prosperity during its dasa
  2.

     This is the only ascendant for which Saturn in 11th confers a yoga
  3.

     If Sun and Venus are in Leo with Saturn in Aquarius, the Saturn dasa will bring in wealth


39-40. Grahas and Makar Lagna. Mangal, Guru and Candr are malefics, Śukr and Budh are auspicious. Śani will not be a killer on his own. Mangal and other malefics will inflict death. Sūrya is neutral. Only Śukr is capable of causing a superior Yoga.

Capricorn Lagna

  1.

     Sun: Sun is the lord of 8th house, hence is neutral. Sun does not suffer the blemish of 8th lordship. Hence it would not break any rajayoga due to its association.
  2.

     Moon: Moon the lord of 7th, hence is a maraka.
  3.

     Mars: Mars is the lord of 4th and 11th house. 4th lordship is neutral, while 11th lordship makes Mars an inauspicious planet.
  4.

     Mercury: Mercury is the lord of 6th and 9th houses. Since it owns an inauspicious as well as an auspicious house, it is a neutral planet. It is not clear, why Maharishi Parashara calls it a auspicious planet.
  5.

     Jupiter: Jupiter is the lord of 3rd as well as 12th lord. Being the lord of an inauspicious as well as a neutral house, it is an inauspicious planet for this lagna.
  6.

     Venus: Venus is the lord of 5th as well as 10th house, hence a yogakaraka.
  7.

     Saturn: Saturn is the lord of Lagna as well as the 2nd house. However since Lagna lord always protects the native, it shall not be a maraka on its own. However whichever planets it associates with can becomes maraka.


Bhavartha Ratnakara says:

  1.

     If Mercury is in Leo with Jupiter in lagna and aspected by Venus, long life is conferred, but with poverty
  2.

     Venus in in Taurus is good; if in Libra, though, he may not prove so fortunate
  3.

     If Venus and Mercury are in lagna with Moon in Taurus aspected by Jupiter, the native is certain to become an emperor. This is called a maharaja yoga
  4.

     If Jupiter is in lagna with Venus and Mars in Scorpio, brothers will give the native riches during the Jupiter dasa
  5.

     When Sun, Moon and Mercury are in lagna, with Mars and Venus in Sagittarius, the native will be replete with wealth
  6.

     A Saturn-Mercury combination in Virgo confers fortune. Rahu becomes a yogakaraka if he’s with Jupiter in Sagittarius
  7.

     The presence of Moon in Cancer and Mars in lagna causes a rajayoga



41-42. Grahas and Kumbh Lagn. Guru, Candr and Mangal are malefics, while Śukr and Śani are auspicious. Śukr is the only Grah, that causes Raj Yog. Guru, Sūrya and Mangal are killers. Budh gives meddling effects.

Aquarius Lagna

  1.

     Sun: Sun is the lord of 7th house, hence is a maraka.
  2.

     Moon: Moon is the lord of the 6th house, hence is inauspicious.
  3.

     Mars: Mars is the lord of 3rd as well as 10th house. 10th lordship of Mars is neutral whereas 3rd lordship is inauspicious making it an inauspicious planet for the lagna.
  4.

     Mercury: Mercury is the lord of 5th as well as 8th house. Due to 8th lordship, even though, it is a auspicious planet for the lagna, it will cause any raja yoga due to association with kendra lord.
  5.

     Jupiter: Jupiter is the 2nd as well as 11th lord. 11th lordship makes it an inauspicious planet. In addition due to lordship of 2nd house, it becomes a maraka too.
  6.

     Venus: Venus is the lord of 4th and 9th house, hence is auspicious and a yogakaraka too.
  7.

     Saturn: Saturn is the Lagna lord as well as 12th lord. 12th lordship being neutral, Saturn becomes an auspicious planet for this lagna.


Bhavartha Ratnakara says:

  1.

     For both Aquarius and Leo ascendant natives, the mere association of the 9th and 10th lords doesn’t confer any rajayoga
  2.

     If Venus and Rahu are in lagna with Sun in Scorpio, yoga will be caused in the dasas of Rahu and Jupiter
  3.

     If Sun and Mars are in Virgo, the native suffers during their dasas. The Mercury dasa will be better
  4.

     Jupiter in lagna with Saturn in Pisces will see mixed results during the Jupiter dasa and an ordinary time during the Saturn dasa
  5.

     If Saturn and Venus are in Sagittarius, the Venus dasa proves fortunate
  6.

     A Sun-Mercury-Jupiter combine in Aries is good, especially during the Sun dasa when the native enjoys power


43-44. Grahas and Meen Bhava. Śani, Śukr, Sūrya and Budh are malefics. Mangal and Candr are auspicious. Mangal and Guru will cause a Yoga. Though Mangal is a killer, he will not kill the native (independently). Śani and Budh are killers.

Pisces Lagna

  1.

     Sun: Sun is the lord of 6th house, hence inauspicious.
  2.

     Moon: Moon is the lord of 5th house, hence an auspicious planet.
  3.

     Mars: Mars is the lord of 2nd as well as 9th lord. 2nd lordship is neutral and 9th is auspicious, hence Mars is auspicious for this lagna. Being the 2nd lord it is a maraka too.
  4.

     Mercury: Mercury is the lord of 7th and 10th. Since suffers from Kendradhipatya dosa only mildly, it is a mild malefic. Being the lord of 7th, it is a maraka too, however it shall give the results with association.
  5.

     Jupiter: Jupiter is the Lagna as well as 10th lord. 10th lordship of Jupiter is neutral, hence being the lagna lord it is auspicious for this lagna.
  6.

     Venus: Venus is the 3rd and 8th lord. 8th lordship is neutral whereas 3rd is inauspicious, hence Venus is inauspicious.
  7.

     Saturn: Saturn is the 11th and 12th lord. 12th lordship is neutral whereas 11th is inauspicious, making Saturn an inauspicious planet for this lagna. Maharishi Parashara additionally says that Saturn is a Maraka too.
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Post by Raman Deep Singh » Wed Oct 20, 2010 10:46 pm

Hi Everyone,
Planetary war or Graha yudhha is quite a controversial but nice topic.Some do doubt its existence but i think it does work.

Now there is definetely a Question that how it works .Visit ji has rightly said about it that there is planetary war or graha yudha between planets under 1 degree.
When 2 planets are in same degree this is said to also lead to controversial theory by Sanjay Rath ji - CHARAKARAKA REPLACEMENT.. but lets not go there as this may change the course of the topic also thats very advance level and many wont agre on it , PVR  Narasimha Rao ji also does not believe in it , as far as i remember  :)

In Graha Yuddha, wat suffers is the primarily the basic properties of the planet which is going to loose the battle.. Followed by the lorded houses but thats quite secondarily, main still is basic properties of the loosing planet.

Nodes are definitely the part of this war..Coz nodes also have some properties and do impact native's life.

For example :- Loss of ketu in graha yuddha will make native feel the absence of sprituality in his/her life and the complete understanding will come by knowing who is wining this war
This is my understanding.

Regards,
Raman Deep Singh

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Post by Raman Deep Singh » Wed Oct 20, 2010 10:56 pm

kandhan.t wrote:prasannaji


thanks for the informational link.  
i am just thinking aloud here(learned members please correct me): it confirms what i have understood till now: yogakaraka is good for the native, whether he desires it/likes it or not. at the soul/karmic level. not neccessariliy at materialistic level. if there is confluence of other factors(strengths, aspects) then there is material prosperity too.

now, if the function of yogakaraka is as above, then what is the difference betwen YK and atmakaraka?  atmakaraka also teaches important lessons. in areas represented by AK the native acts like god which is detrimental to selfrealisation. so the choice is his to change his behaviour in this aspect.  however, in case of YK, the element of choice it not present.

but when we come to medical astrology and yogas what is the position?  is this yogakaraka concept  applied to these two areas or is natural tendencies of grahas are taken into consideration?
Hi Kandhan ji,
I think you are mixing 2-3 topic at the same time. Planetary Wars, AK,YK , about 10th house etc .This would be confusing for you also.
But just  small thing, you urself has said good enough about the difference
(Bold in your message)but you can see more in thread related to Atmakaraka.

Do you think being good is same as teaching lesson :)

One more thing
Yogakaraka = Yoga + Karaka
Atmakaraka = ATMA + Karka

Regards,
Raman Deep Singh
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