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Jhora Ver 7.5 to include Surya Siddhanta analytical model of planetary movement....to later versions

Post by projenator » Fri Oct 08, 2010 8:48 am

From: Narasimha PVR Rao <pvr@...>
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Subject: [vedic-astrology] Soon JHora with Sri Surya Siddhanta Support


Namaste,

Happy Nava Ratris!

In a couple of weeks, I am going to release Jagannatha Hora 7.5 with Sri Surya
Siddhanta (SSS) support. SSS is an ancient Hindu analytical model of planetary
movement and it differs from the latest NASA models that are used in several
software programs including JHora. Though people assume that SSS is inaccurate
and that is why it differs from modern astronomy, it is possible that it is not
an issue of accuracy.

Just as all of us have subtle bodies (sookshma sareeras), planets also have
subtle bodies. The physical planets we see in the sky are their *projections* at
the *gross physical* level. It is possible that the subtle bodies of planets are
slightly away from physical planets and move based on beautiful mathematical
formulas that were revealed to ancient rishis. It is possible that the effect of
planets on us is NOT due to gravitational or electromagnetic effect of the
physical planets on our physical bodies, but due to the effect of the subtle
bodies of planets on our subtle bodies. If so, subtle bodies of planets need to
be used in astrology.

In the recorded history of astrology and astrologers, the oracles of Nadi
astrology are the only ones to provide truly amazing and precise predictions
that seem to defy the laws of probability. Many commercial Nadi readers may be
working with fake texts or be too impatient to find the right page even when
having a genuine text and hence Nadi readings may go wrong. But we do know some
people who got amazing Nadi readings, that gave a lot of *objective* details
quite accurately. So there is something about Nadi texts. Interestingly, the
horoscopes quoted in Nadi texts use SSS!

Though a lot of us advocate a lot of different techniques, it is not clear to me
if any of us have actually cracked the puzzle completely. Despite any posturing
that may be resorted to by some astrologers, I have not seen anybody with a
replicable technique that can be mathematically evaluated and certified to work
based on a large sample set. Sincere seekers of Truth in Jyotish may agree with
me that we are all still groping in relative darkness (despite the glimpses of
nice light now and then) and that there may be big holes in our understanding of
the teachings of rishis.

Given that, sincere seekers of Truth should be interested in trying out various
options. Having been used by ancient astrologers (including Sri Varahamihira)
and used in Nadi texts, SSS is definitely a good candidate for trying. Thanks to
kind help from Sri Vinay Jha, author of Aditya Vahini panchangam published by
Govardhan Mutt (Puri Shankaracharya's mutt), Puri, I have implemeted support for
SSS in JHora. When 7.5 is released, JHora users can experiment with Sri Surya
Siddhanta.

We hope this will enable further researches and open a pathway towards a more
perfect understanding of the teachings of rishis oneday! Whether we are alive to
see that day or not, it is our responsibility to make whatever contribution we
can make towards enabling that day.

Best regards,
Narasimha

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Post by RishiRahul » Fri Oct 08, 2010 11:17 am

Hi Proj,

I think this is great news. &nbsp;When is the version being released?

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Post by prasanna » Fri Oct 08, 2010 11:24 am

Thanks fort his news dear Proj .


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Delay in JHora 7.5

Post by Vinay Jha » Fri Feb 04, 2011 6:05 am

PVR Narasimha Rao wanted to release JHora 7.5 with SSS (Shri Surya Siddhanta) option in October, but I requested him to postpone it till some minor computational problems are fixed. Now, after fixing these problems, he has decided to release JHora 7.5 with SSS on Feb 9/10, 2011 (Rath Saptami). It has many experimental features too, helpful for accurate timing of events and microscopic study of events.

I made Kundalee program on SSS in Visual Basic - 6 which a lot of persons could not install because Microsoft stopped supporting VB6. The newer version of VB was incompatible with VB6 and the entire program needed to be rewritten afresh, which I could not do due to lack of time. Hence, PVR's decision to include SSS in JHora is a personal relief to me, and it will allow others to test SSS which I have found to be far superior to physical astronomy in the field of predictive astrology. Now, PVR also thinks likewise. Only those people oppose SSS who have not tested it impartially.

-Vinay Jha

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Post by jigyasu » Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:07 am

:)
i really love this come back.......... go siddhas !!!!

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Post by RishiRahul » Wed Feb 09, 2011 4:32 pm

Hi,

The 7.5 version has been released an hour and a half ago

www.jagannath.org/jh

Thanks to P.V.R NARASIMHARAO JI AND VINAY JHA JI!!


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Post by ranger » Fri Feb 11, 2011 10:30 am

RishiRahul wrote:Hi,

The 7.5 version has been released an hour and a half ago

www.jagannath.org/jh

Thanks to P.V.R NARASIMHARAO JI AND VINAY JHA JI!!


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Post by Raman Deep Singh » Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:26 pm

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How to Set options in JHora-7.51 for Sri Surya Siddhanta

Post by Vinay Jha » Fri Mar 11, 2011 9:32 pm

A user asked me my opinions on options in SSS mode of JHora, I am posting here what I wrote to him :

In Jhora 7.51, when JHora opens there is a tab "Basics" above the D1 chart which remains clicked as default. In it, you will find a tab "Houses" at the bottom of "birthdata dispay window" in which birthdate &c are mentioned. Below that window, there are four tabs :

Key Info, Houses, Amsa rulers, KP

Click "Houses", and then in the new window containing information aboiut houses you have to right-click ; an option-window will open, in which you must change two defaults, select the following :

(1) Ascendant (or the chosen reference) is the middle of first house

(2) Porphyry houses (Sripati)

Then, click the "Dasas" tab above D1 chart which is slightly rightwards from "Basics" tab. In right hand side bottom menu, select the "Nakshatra dasas" tab which is default, and then in the new window (of dashaa table), righty click to get the option-window, and select the following :

(3) "Definition of year in dasas" > "Year with 360 tithis".

Do not make this change to 360-tithi year in "Rasi" or "other" dashaa systems, and leave the deaults there.

The "Porphyry houses (Sripati)" house system is not exactly SSS, but it is the nearest approach to SSS in present version of JHora and will give highly accurate results in well over 99% cases.

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Post by mysbcrs » Sat Mar 12, 2011 11:30 am

Vinay ji,

I have two questions. Kindly clarify.

1. in Porphyry do we opt for the Asc or chosen ref to be the start of 1st Bhava or the middle of first Bhava?
2. Does the option for Porphyry has any effect on the dasha periods (in JHora) ? Prima facie they dont appear to be.

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Post by Vinay Jha » Sat Mar 12, 2011 6:27 pm

To CRS :

SSS has nothing to do with porphyry, but SSS's own system, which is the most prevalent traditional system of house division in India, is absent in JHora due to two reasons : SSS system of house division which is same as BPHS sysyem was removed from Sitaram Jha's 1946 edition of BPHS, and this distorted version was later translated into English by R Santhanam. PVR used this version and thought BPHS advocates equal house division. The SSS system of house division is expected in next update of JHora.

Your first question is already answered in the original message : all the three points need to be implemented.

The option for Porphyry has no effect on the dasha periods.

I do not use JHora, I use my own Kundalee software, whose algorithm was provided to PVR for inclusion in the form of SSS option. For JHora problem, you should aask PVR directly, preferably in vedic-astrology yahoo group.

-VJ

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Post by RishiRahul » Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:07 pm

Hi,

My two cents, as I find this an interesting query.

mysbcrs wrote:Vinay ji,

I have two questions. Kindly clarify.

1. in Porphyry do we opt for the Asc or chosen ref to be the start of 1st Bhava or the middle of first Bhava?
RishiRahul= In porphyry house division we should choose ascendant as the middle of first bhava when we use normal vedic charts= This is called Sripathi paddhati.
But while using k.p. choose porphyry too; but choose ascendant as the start.


2. Does the option for Porphyry has any effect on the dasha periods (in JHora) ? Prima facie they dont appear to be.
RishiRahul= House divisions, like prphyry, campanus, equal houe etc has no effect on dasha periods.
In fact house divisions do not affect dasha periods.

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Post by RishiRahul » Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:06 am

Hi Everyone,

Below is a mail from Sri Narasimha, as he has released an update of Jhora Jyotish software meant for research.

RishiRahul


Namaste friends,

Please download

http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/jh/test/jh_update.zip

Unzip it and run it, to install the 7.52 beta update. To run this, you
must have 7.3 (or later) already installed. Otherwise, first install
JHora 7.51 from http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/jh and then install the
7.52 beta update from above.

The list of changes from 7.51 is given below.

Best regards,
Narasimha


Changes from 7.51 to 7.52 beta:

(1) SSS house system is added for bhava/chalit chakra. It is available
only when using the SSS model of planetary calculation (i.e. not
available when using drik siddhanta). It is close to Sripathi system,
but slightly different.
(2) Bhrigu pada progression is added. The positions of seven planets in
rasi as well as divisional charts can be progressed using the Bhrigu
pada progression.
(3) Quantification of special aspects of Jupiter, Mars and Saturn used
in shadbala and "planetary aspect evaluation" were earlier as per Dr
Raman's teachings. Now, an option is added to follow Dr Raman's
teachings or Parasara's teachings (default). The option can be accessed
from the pop-up menu of aspect table.
(4) Planetary aspect table with relationships marked as color codes is
added. This table shows the amount of aspect of different planets on
different planets or houses, color coded by relationships. It also shows
whether the aspecting planet is exlated or debilitated or combust or in
moolatrikona or in own house or in a friendly house etc. Please check
the popup menu on charts.
(5) Ashtottari dasa and Shashtihayani dasa calculation were not using
Abhijit correctly. It is fixed now.
(6) Nakshatra shift in Ashtottari dasa and Shashtihayani dasa were not
working correctly, as they are defined based on blocks of 4 or 3
nakshatras. It is fixed now. One can start Ashtottari dasa from either
Krittika or Ardra as taught by Lomasha Rishi.
(7) The nakshatra dasa seed shift is made more user friendly now. The
default nakshatra from where dasas are counted is shown and one can
explicitly enter an alternative nakshatra for research.
(8) The "equation of time" to convert linear clock time to non-linear
sundial time was modified in SSS mode to use SSS Sun instead of drik
siddhanta Sun (as was the case earlier). This is a DISRUPTIVE change
that changes the effective time by several seconds or even upto a minute
or more. However, it is possible to still rectify the birthtime to a
different time compared to before and get the same lagna, Sun, Moon etc.
This is a simple change in the effective time corresponding to the time
entered. It affects the birthtime rectification.
(9) The nakshatra and nakshatra dasas of DmxDn chart chosen by user were
not being calculated correctly earlier. It is fixed now.


RishiRahul
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JHora update

Post by Vinay Jha » Mon Jun 13, 2011 4:35 am

JHora 7.52 Beta2 removes a bug. It is the latest version of JHora.
Install JHora and set  'Preferences' >'Related to Calculations' >'Set Calcualation Options as recommended by Vinay Jha' for using Suryasiddhanta. OR
Download Kundalee: http://vedicastrology.wikidot.com/software-download

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Post by ratchetandclank » Mon Jul 18, 2011 9:16 am

Beautiful. God bless you.

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