Elder Wife or Younger husband

[Raman Deep Singh]

Hi Rajat ji,
Thank you for replying here and adding value and more information to this topic. I really appreciate that.

Would like to mention few things here:-

I.
As I have said before also that UL and 7th from UL playing part in this topic is MY PERCEPTION and something which i have observed in few charts.. My perception may or may not be wrong. We are trying to check the logics in few charts and wud really apprecaite your input and understanding on them in moving ahead.So we are still in process of understanding.
Also, if you would read my and rishirahul ji's reply 7th from UL is not the only consideration we have taken in delineating the unconventional age of the spouse.Its only part of the check

list

II. About Sanjay Rath ji I am not saying he z wrong or right but wud like to see how logics works as

sometimes logics may get differnt when we put it in practical life.I know many cases at personal level for

whom Sanjay Rath ji's prediction has gone wrong.. this does not mean he or his knowledge was wrong but

may be some glitch is still there in understanding .. so we all are just trying to get better understanding. May be wat they say has got differnt meaning too, so we all are trying to shape up an understanding here.

Would request you also to put your views as per present available data or any data with you And clarify the doubts about it.
How would you go and delineate for this Question about unconventional age of spouse(younger husband and elder wife)

Regards,
Raman Deep Singh

Dear Swapnil,
Where you read this that 7th from UL is native himself? If 7th from UL is native himself, then what is AL?

My Guru Sanjay ji and Visti ji taught me that 7th and 12th from UL are the person who oppose the marriage.

Say 7th from UL is Moon and 12th from UL is Venus, then mother-in-law and sister-in-law will be opposing

the marriage and will try to break the marriage. If these planets are strong, then they will break the

marriage too. Thats why it is always checked that whether 2nd is strong than 12th or not? Even if 2nd from

UL is having aspect of Jupiter but 12th being strong than 2nd, the marriage will be broken.
Please don't use wrong knowledge of Jaimini Sutras unless you are taught this through some specific Guru

in SJC.
Regards

[rajat19731]

If UL  is Spouse, what  Darapada  and 7 th house from Darapada  represents ?  

Dear Prasanna ji,
I hope you would follow wat you have said in your below reply..Kindly do maintain it and do not break it like before....
Though you just broke it in 2 hours by posting ur another reply in same thread(above) but i hope you gonna maintain this in future ..  :)

One more thing

If UL  is Spouse, what  Darapada  and 7 th house from Darapada  represents ?  

You denied something you are not aware off  :).. But can expect that from you .
Just to bring to your notice BV Raman ji once in open seminar said before denying something u shud have proper knowledge and understanding about it

Also if you realise Jaimini sutras cannot be totally since sage was disciple of sage Parasara himself,
Also he always said he z gonna continue from where parasar left .. so he z not gonna repeat what is already said by Sage Parsara.As he believed in basics understanding of us as a human

Kindly , let this topic go ahead in peace and put some value if possible.


Regards,
Raman deep Singh

So in my  view the dispositor of 7th house to UL alone is not a criteria for getting a elder wife. So Arudha has no any special role here to play with in determining age  of elder  or younger spouse. So I am not  going to take part any more in this thread. and waste my energy in arguing unnecessarily too .  Thanks to all who ever is reading my views .Iam not compelling or forcing any one to accept  my views too .

Dear Raman,
Why you have such an illusion that what you are saying is right and all the else are wrong? Jaimini was disciple of Sage Parasara but you should be aware that later Parasara included the sutras of Maharsi Jaimini by using UL, AL and Arudhas in his teachings. Secondly what Prasanna said is absolutely correct. Jaimini talks about Argala and simply denies of mutual aspects. If you will coincide Parasara with Jaimini in everything without knowing the basics of Jaimini, then you can make any statement on any conjunction and aspect in the chart. But the point is how acceptable your theory is.
Let me tell you one very simple thing, Surya in 11th house is said to be very auspicious. This is written in all the scriptures. But let me tell you that scriptures had lot of hidden things in them, which one can open through a Guru only. I am giving one exception to this that Surya is highly inauspicious in 11th house provided its the Manasa tara.  Surya being the lord of Manasa tara if placed in 11th house gives mental diseases. I can share not less than 100 charts on this and i have had a research on this with my Guru.
Also your chart has the strongest planet from AL in Sulochana nakshatra, which indicates that you will never have success in research. To have success in research, one needs to have the strongest planet in Andha nakshatra. See the charts of Albert Einstein, Marie Curie, Piere Curie, Neils Bohr and any of the great researcher. All have the strongest planet in Andha Nakshatra.
PS: Do reply to this post only with proper points and having clear explanations on this.
Regards

[Raman Deep Singh]

Why you have such an illusion that what you are saying is right and all the else are wrong?

Dear Rajat ji,
Before replying to all your other concerns let me clarify your above statement ..
If you see my reply given to you(just above your )
I clearly mentioned

.. My perception may or may not be wrong.

Now you can say I dnt mean it but I actually do.. coz i actually believe in being open minded..
Which means everything can be be considered as PROBABLE answer before being called wrong.


Secondly , I am sure you must have seen my chart very carefully provided by whichever source or from MB itself but do you actually want me to give up trying and researching just because you tell me to
,do you think it would be justified as my karma tells me to try and then may be leave it. Especially when i have seen biggest of astrologers going wrong in their perception including Sanjay Rath ji and KN Rao ji .Please do not think im demeaning them or denying their knowledge..

Also even if m not meant for research as per you .. Does this deny my perception or understanding.. even if m not meant for research ..my data cannot be wrong ..and if it is I would earnestly request you to guide me..

One more thing.. Since you are mentioning about 100s of data ..Kindly share some data as per this topic.. Would like to hear and learn from you..

Regards,
Raman Deep Singh

[suzisco]

Hello there,
After reading this thread (of which there is alot of information) why do I have the feeling that this topic has become a bit toxic and angry?
I am not talking about the quality of readings (i do not specialise in Vedic Astrology)
I am talking about attitudes and the disrespectful tone.
Now I rarely come to Vedic Astrology because I have no knowledge of the subject.  I do however have a strong knowledge about people and whats right and wrong.
I am also here because a member has made a complaint about this thread.
So I am going to say very firmly that the Vedic astrology forum is for discussion its not a place to settle scores and try and belittle others.
If you have an ulterior motive for posting here then do not do so.  The only person your hurting is your own reputation.
I am going to be very clear and say if this behavious does not stop then I will have no option but to remove someones membership.

I also may remove some portions of this thread (including this post) to get the topic back on track once I have spoken to Rishi about it.
This will not be Rishi's decision but mine.  If you think I am being too harsh or offensive I will be more than happy to talk to anyone in pm about this.

Kind regards

Suzi

[prasanna]

If UL  is Spouse, what  Darapada  and 7 th house from Darapada  represents ?  

Dear Prasanna ji,
I hope you would follow wat you have said in your below reply..Kindly do maintain it and do not break it like before....
Though you just broke it in 2 hours by posting ur another reply in same thread(above) but i hope you gonna maintain this in future ..  :)

One more thing

If UL  is Spouse, what  Darapada  and 7 th house from Darapada  represents ?  

You denied something you are not aware off  :).. But can expect that from you .
Just to bring to your notice BV Raman ji once in open seminar said before denying something u shud have proper knowledge and understanding about it

Also if you realise Jaimini sutras cannot be totally since sage was disciple of sage Parasara himself,
Also he always said he z gonna continue from where parasar left .. so he z not gonna repeat what is already said by Sage Parsara.As he believed in basics understanding of us as a human

Kindly , let this topic go ahead in peace and put some value if possible.


Regards,
Raman deep Singh

So in my  view the dispositor of 7th house to UL alone is not a criteria for getting a elder wife. So Arudha has no any special role here to play with in determining age  of elder  or younger spouse. So I am not  going to take part any more in this thread. and waste my energy in arguing unnecessarily too .  Thanks to all who ever is reading my views .Iam not compelling or forcing any one to accept  my views too .

Dear All,

I have not attempted to reply to any of  Raman's post addressed to me  now  and yesterday too   (which  U are  well  aware of ). . It is my own  will and wish to enter  or leave  from this topic ,  as a poster and no one has  right  to dictate  me or  request me to stop entering here. After my Re entry ( on request of my fans ) into MB,  in my first post itself , in this same thread   I have quoted clearly to Rishi ji, no more personal attacks are required here . He agreed  to it , so  I  Continued here.   More over he wanted me to give my views over this  topic  ( as a poster  of his research ) so Iam doing it  here  unbiased as well . . .I posted my quote of my understanding openly  with open mind too. That doesn't mean I understood wrong and this Raman need not unnecessarily comment he expected this  from me . I never talk something which  I am not aware off .
.I already posted my reply asking Rishi  ji, , what went wrong-in my earlier understanding for which his reply is pending still . Let him reply to these things now  or let him say I should not talk further  here as he is  the  Mod of this forum. After getting re confirmation from him , I started  my posting  in this thread   which he can  never deny too .


To Suzi,

I have never attempted to argue or quarrel  in this thread which u should understand first pl. I only shared my views over the topic which are really necessary over  here, at this juncture. . Kindly take this as discussion and do not attempt to delete something from this topic please, which will be the  real curtailment of  our learning's . Thanks. .

[swetha]

Hello everyone,

Thanks for cooperating. We **Request** you to keep to the topic which will ensure that the posts dont get deleted or locked since we have no other intention other than wellbeing of the forum when we delete posts. If this happens, the  posters and the board eventually lose out in learning and gaining/sharing knowledge.

Thanks for understanding and hope you maintain the etiquette.

Swetha

[commando7]

I also think that in mahabharat, Draupadi was elder than atleast some of of her husbands.