older spouse and younger spouse....... a data based research
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Hi Rishirahul ji,
That would be a nice idea to see/test this on practical ground.
I am providing details of a Male whose wife z elder than him.
26 Dec 1983
8.27 AM
Calcutta
I hope you and other memebers like rajat ji, Avam ji (nice to see you back to board
), Bala ji and Surly Milind ji and other members too
would present their idea/view on this one.
I feel there has to be connection with Arudha so that peple shud feel the difference in age..But just an idea.
Regards,
Raman Deep Singh
That would be a nice idea to see/test this on practical ground.
I am providing details of a Male whose wife z elder than him.
26 Dec 1983
8.27 AM
Calcutta
I hope you and other memebers like rajat ji, Avam ji (nice to see you back to board
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would present their idea/view on this one.
I feel there has to be connection with Arudha so that peple shud feel the difference in age..But just an idea.
Regards,
Raman Deep Singh
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Raman Deep Singh wrote:Hi Rishirahul ji,
That would be a nice idea to see/test this on practical ground.
I am providing details of a Male whose wife z elder than him.
26 Dec 1983
8.27 AM
Calcutta
I hope you and other memebers like rajat ji, Avam ji (nice to see you back to board), Bala ji and Surly Milind ji and other members too
would present their idea/view on this one.
I feel there has to be connection with Arudha so that peple shud feel the difference in age..But just an idea.
Regards,
Raman Deep Singh
H Raman,
Since you have confirmed that the native has an older husband, lets try to find points:
(1)As you said that Saturn in in the 7th. from Al....... but this may be a stray case.
Other points which 'MAY' lead to older spouse from this chart:
(1)Venus saturn conjunct
(2) Darakaraka Jupiter's signs aspected and or posited by Sani in navamsa.
(3) 7th. lord moon in natal chart in sani navamsa with ketu.
Also darakaraka jupiter is in Ketu's star..... just an observation.
(4) darapada (a7), Mars opposes sani in navamsa
Ketu in darapada
Another observation: Rahu in the 5th. house.. and ketu springing up often probably means, not the usual conventional marriage... may be love affair.
RishiRahul
P.S: This could be good research where such charts of known persons (probably not celebrities, as navamsa might change due to not very correct birthtimes).
Other participants may please post another case/cases.
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govardhanvt wrote:Date of Birth of the girl
July 4,1978
16 :27 hrs
Madras
Date of birth of the Boy
Sept 6,1979
8:52 am
Sorapur India
The boys horoscope had been vivid discussed in some other thread. The couple have been married for the past 7 years. The girl intend to go for divorce now. No encumbarance so far.
Here it is. Thanks Rishi .
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Dear Rishi,
Why dont u take any one of the above two cases and think one is given by me now ? Seeing the dates U can know lady is elder to man in those charts. Thanks for analyzing I leave it to your choice now.Others can take other chart or lead from U and further discussions are also possible I believe . After all we are here to learn more. Is int?
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Why dont u take any one of the above two cases and think one is given by me now ? Seeing the dates U can know lady is elder to man in those charts. Thanks for analyzing I leave it to your choice now.Others can take other chart or lead from U and further discussions are also possible I believe . After all we are here to learn more. Is int?
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prasanna wrote:govardhanvt wrote:Date of Birth of the girl
July 4,1978
16 :27 hrs
Madras
Date of birth of the Boy
Sept 6,1979
8:52 am
Sorapur India
The boys horoscope had been vivid discussed in some other thread. The couple have been married for the past 7 years. The girl intend to go for divorce now. No encumbarance so far.
Here it is. Thanks Rishi .
Dear Prasanna,
Okay let us proceed with the case, but only 1 tear difference would not be a perfect example; even then lets discuss this.
Posting of cases(one by one) having larger year differences would be proper as proper distinctions can be only made then, considering the progressing times (the importance of desh, kaal and patro mentioned)
For example a 27 year old boy and 28/29 year old girl can look of similar ages to each other, or even younger.
Means even if the girl is older by a year she can look younger (due to genetic factors). so the perception (Arudha) may not come to play.
Even then... since you say....
See, astrology is not just 'black and white'.
points noted........
(1)Venus saturn conjunct.
(2) 7th. from AL , saturn,afflicted by nodes
(3) Darapada lord, saturn, afflicted by nodes
(4)saturn in 7th from moon
(5) darakaraka, Jupiter, aspected by saturn in rasi and navamsa
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Hi,
I think it would be better if we take case of some one known so that if its required more details could be provided with.
May be for further analysis or some small rectification or undestanding..
Let me give complete data of my previous psat:-
Male:-
Natal Chart
Date: December 26, 1983
Time: 8:27:00
Place: Calcutta, India
Female :-
Female:-
Date: September 3, 1982
Time: 3:02:00
Place: Calcutta, India
Regards,
Raman Deep Singh
I think it would be better if we take case of some one known so that if its required more details could be provided with.
May be for further analysis or some small rectification or undestanding..
Let me give complete data of my previous psat:-
Male:-
Natal Chart
Date: December 26, 1983
Time: 8:27:00
Place: Calcutta, India
Female :-
Female:-
Date: September 3, 1982
Time: 3:02:00
Place: Calcutta, India
Regards,
Raman Deep Singh
RishiRahul wrote:prasanna wrote:govardhanvt wrote:Date of Birth of the girl
July 4,1978
16 :27 hrs
Madras
Date of birth of the Boy
Sept 6,1979
8:52 am
Sorapur India
The boys horoscope had been vivid discussed in some other thread. The couple have been married for the past 7 years. The girl intend to go for divorce now. No encumbarance so far.
Here it is. Thanks Rishi .
Dear Prasanna,
Okay let us proceed with the case, but only 1 tear difference would not be a perfect example; even then lets discuss this.
Posting of cases(one by one) having larger year differences would be proper as proper distinctions can be only made then, considering the progressing times (the importance of desh, kaal and patro mentioned)
For example a 27 year old boy and 28/29 year old girl can look of similar ages to each other, or even younger.
Means even if the girl is older by a year she can look younger (due to genetic factors). so the perception (Arudha) may not come to play.
Even then... since you say....
See, astrology is not just 'black and white'.
points noted........
(1)Venus saturn conjunct.
(2) 7th. from AL , saturn,afflicted by nodes
(3) Darapada lord, saturn, afflicted by nodes
(4)saturn in 7th from moon
(5) darakaraka, Jupiter, aspected by saturn in rasi and navamsa
RishiRahul
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Not to offend any one here
Let me say Firstly, ,
your statement ( in bold ) applies to the chart which u have recently analyzed too I believe and the same Arudha holds good too for that data too (December 26, 1983 )
Secondly,
The native whom U discussed above is known to me too as they are given by my family friend Govardhan vt ji , so its not needed for me to explain to one and all here , I know the native.
Any how thanks Rishi for giving your valid views for the above chart in discussion. I will further try my level best to post data as u wanted to be posted now ( with vast age difference )
Thirdly,
The quote
Even then............ since U say ............I like it very much, U took me rite. Thanks Friend.
At the same time, , I request we need not show any of our attachments, sentiments , enmity towards any one here further please. Let us behave little matured as Co Astrologers alone. . Except in our Vedic board I see high maturity levels in sharing of views in all boards everywhere now. So let us all put an end to this personal affinity or enmity by today with this Topic . I hope U as Moderator will try to amend it here , in all our further discussions .Thanks to U for this.
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Regards,
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Prasanna,
Please do not talk/keep on reminding of personal enmities where the present exchanges are having none, and you must be aware that the moderator is not in favour of such references etc. So there is no need to bring up this reference again.
Such comments can lead to further spark controversies again; so please note.
Any such further references (posts) and or harsh comments by anyone will be edited etc by the moderator forthwith.
I had mentioned that Arudha's may not apply in small age differences as this is my belief. This analysis is in a raw state still.
My belief can always be wrong and I am no gospel.
Arudhas are very complex/advanced to understand and apply properly, and just because it has works in 1 or 2 cases does not confirm something.
Also I seem to be the only one taking part in analysis, for which I feel a bit neglected.
RishiRashul
Please do not talk/keep on reminding of personal enmities where the present exchanges are having none, and you must be aware that the moderator is not in favour of such references etc. So there is no need to bring up this reference again.
Such comments can lead to further spark controversies again; so please note.
Any such further references (posts) and or harsh comments by anyone will be edited etc by the moderator forthwith.
I had mentioned that Arudha's may not apply in small age differences as this is my belief. This analysis is in a raw state still.
My belief can always be wrong and I am no gospel.
Arudhas are very complex/advanced to understand and apply properly, and just because it has works in 1 or 2 cases does not confirm something.
Also I seem to be the only one taking part in analysis, for which I feel a bit neglected.
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Hi Ranan,
I am bringing forward the analysis of the male who got married to the older female here....in addition to his spouses analysis seen together................with replies in green for better identification.
If I have missed some aspects please point out.
I was wondering if after analysis of a few cases we can have an inference.
RishiRahul
I am bringing forward the analysis of the male who got married to the older female here....in addition to his spouses analysis seen together................with replies in green for better identification.
If I have missed some aspects please point out.
I was wondering if after analysis of a few cases we can have an inference.
Raman Deep Singh wrote:Hi,
I think it would be better if we take case of some one known so that if its required more details could be provided with.
May be for further analysis or some small rectification or undestanding..
Let me give complete data of my previous psat:-
Male:-
Natal Chart
Date: December 26, 1983
Time: 8:27:00
Place: Calcutta, India
RishiRahul=male married to older female=
(1)As you said that Saturn in in the 7th. from Al....... but this may be a stray case.
Other points which 'MAY' lead to older spouse from this chart:
(1)Venus saturn conjunct
(2) Darakaraka Jupiter's signs aspected and or posited by Sani in navamsa.
(3) 7th. lord moon in natal chart in sani navamsa with ketu.
Also darakaraka jupiter is in Ketu's star..... just an observation.
(4) darapada (a7), Mars opposes sani in navamsa
Ketu in darapada
Another observation: Rahu in the 5th. house.. and ketu springing up often probably means, not the usual conventional marriage... may be love affair.
Female :-
Female:-
Date: September 3, 1982
Time: 3:02:00
Place: Calcutta, India
RishiRahul=Female married to younger spouse=
(1)7th lord with mercury in mercuries house
(2)venus not conjunct saturn, but conjunct sun oppose moon
(3)darapada, Venus, not aspected by Saturn. Darapada lord not conjunct or aspected by saturn
(4)same for darakarak, Venus.
(5)Venus, darakarak and darapada, not aspected or conjunct saturn in navamsa
(6) Saturn is not in 7th. from Al, but aspecting it.
Regards,
Raman Deep Singh
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Hi,
Bringing forward prasanna's given details with analysis of the couple similarly........
I have noted some points about the condition of marriage, but since we are trying to analyse how to determine older spouse, I am not mentioning.
Why doesnt someone else analyse the other couples details given by Prasanna please.
RishiRahul
Bringing forward prasanna's given details with analysis of the couple similarly........
I have noted some points about the condition of marriage, but since we are trying to analyse how to determine older spouse, I am not mentioning.
Why doesnt someone else analyse the other couples details given by Prasanna please.
prasanna wrote:govardhanvt wrote:Date of Birth of the girl
July 4,1978
16 :27 hrs
Madras
RishiRahul= married to younger spouse=
(1)Venus with mercury. not conjunct Saturn
(2)darapada/darapada lord, mercury, not having spect/comjunct Saturn
(3) darapada in nvamsa= similar as in point 2.
(4)darakarak saturn with Mars
(5) 7th. from AL has saturn Mars......... either raman's idea did not work here or the age difference is not wide.
Date of birth of the Boy
Sept 6,1979
8:52 am
Sorapur India
RishiRahul= married to older spouse=
(1)Venus saturn conjunct.
(2) 7th. from AL , saturn,afflicted by nodes
(3) Darapada lord, saturn, afflicted by nodes
(4)saturn in 7th from moon
(5) darakaraka, Jupiter, aspected by saturn in rasi and navamsa
The boys horoscope had been vivid discussed in some other thread. The couple have been married for the past 7 years. The girl intend to go for divorce now. No encumbarance so far.
Here it is. Thanks Rishi .
RishiRahul
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