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Brahma Mihira wrote:Thanks for nice links, however 'Tetrabiblos' was difficult to find on wilbourhall website, yes,
http://www.sacred-texts.com/astro/ptb/index.htm
is easy link, but can read only in online.
RishiRahul wrote:Rohiniranjan wrote:HULLO!RishiRahul wrote:...
Vinay ji...liquid...Tsunami......!
I have made my day!
Soon, I would be posting a study on 'Progressions' and 'retrogression' in the western astrology forum which I promised to do so in the ..mystic reality....with a link in Vedic forum.
It is not ayanamsa sensitive, but when we go further to house cusps..... it would be ayanamsa sensitive.
I f there are at least Dada's and Vinay ji's support/participation in this, it would be productive; of course others should please help too.
Young minds and unbiased minds are required for such studies............!
Rishi
Like I said, what I wrote was neither directed at Vinay_ji directly or indirectly, as has been misunderstood by you! Hence I must 'clear the air', as the expression goes!!
I was simply talking about the Earth and its reality! :-(
Good luck with your project and sharing about ayanamsha, progressions and retrogression! One sensitive to ayanamsha, the other equally and simultaneously co-occuring and zodiac-insensitive and hence beyond the 'grip' of ayanamsha!
Please let us know when you have posted your report/explorations.
Love, Light, Astrology,
Dear Dada,
I did not mean to hurt anyone. Just a pun!
It is not my finding, but an age old western theory well applied to western & eastern; with scope of further research.
Small ayanamas differences may not hold meaning but sharply different ones like sayan & Nirayan.
Rishi
Rohiniranjan wrote:RishiRahul wrote:Rohiniranjan wrote:HULLO!RishiRahul wrote:...
Vinay ji...liquid...Tsunami......!
I have made my day!
Soon, I would be posting a study on 'Progressions' and 'retrogression' in the western astrology forum which I promised to do so in the ..mystic reality....with a link in Vedic forum.
It is not ayanamsa sensitive, but when we go further to house cusps..... it would be ayanamsa sensitive.
I f there are at least Dada's and Vinay ji's support/participation in this, it would be productive; of course others should please help too.
Young minds and unbiased minds are required for such studies............!
Rishi
Like I said, what I wrote was neither directed at Vinay_ji directly or indirectly, as has been misunderstood by you! Hence I must 'clear the air', as the expression goes!!
I was simply talking about the Earth and its reality! :-(
Good luck with your project and sharing about ayanamsha, progressions and retrogression! One sensitive to ayanamsha, the other equally and simultaneously co-occuring and zodiac-insensitive and hence beyond the 'grip' of ayanamsha!
Please let us know when you have posted your report/explorations.
Love, Light, Astrology,
Dear Dada,
I did not mean to hurt anyone. Just a pun!
It is not my finding, but an age old western theory well applied to western & eastern; with scope of further research.
Small ayanamas differences may not hold meaning but sharply different ones like sayan & Nirayan.
Rishi
Rishi_ji,
I love your 'boyish' charm but when it comes to Jyotish, Vinay_ji is very serious and sincere and so am I, despite my apparent 'mirthfulness'!
I notice that my 'baby and the bathwater' sharing addressed at him and the rest, from earlier today (May 3rd, 2012) has 'disappeared' from the forum! Although after 'submitting' it, I did check to see if it was showing up! At that time it was!!
And we were given to believe that messages cannot get deleted on this forum! Perhaps only be members...?
MAYA teray KITNAY ROOP...!
Love and Light!
, but believe me; I am quite serious Jyotisher too, but more jack of all trades type! Rohiniranjan wrote:Maybe my earlier posting got scythed too by REFRESH! Which is not very refreshing to know, but I now understand the SYSTEM better!
I was just agreeing with Vinay_ji's posting about the importance of reading old texts like of Ptolemy etc which might have incorporated some observations etc of other cultures and while the books of those cultures might have dropped off some of those facts from their currently available versions of the text (Indian in this instance), the lost gems might be recovered from a reading of such 'foreign' literature.
Good Heavens NO! Me and teach...!!RishiRahul wrote:Rohiniranjan wrote:Maybe my earlier posting got scythed too by REFRESH! Which is not very refreshing to know, but I now understand the SYSTEM better!
I was just agreeing with Vinay_ji's posting about the importance of reading old texts like of Ptolemy etc which might have incorporated some observations etc of other cultures and while the books of those cultures might have dropped off some of those facts from their currently available versions of the text (Indian in this instance), the lost gems might be recovered from a reading of such 'foreign' literature.
In an intense moment of mine: 2 things.
(1) Mirthfulelness and boyish charm can be good departure from Seriousness; like very serious movies had some lighter moments around.
It can be a good quality to ingest for Serious Jyotishers. I am remembering Vinayji now.
(2) The word 'scythed' reminds me of number 13. Now I understand 13 better. Thanks for the lead.
These are where you teach me....unknowingly.
Thanks,
Rishi
Yes Dada, this is exactly what I mean. Rev E. Burgess, the commentator of Suryasiddhanta, wrote that the Greeks have never made any original contribution to astronomy (and astrology), they got everything from the East (Egypt, Mesopotamia, India, etc). I do not care for who borrowed or stole from whom, what I know for certain is the proven fact that Astrology has a common source and available data convinces me that this source was India, or to be more exact Vedic Culture which was spread in a vast belt in the so-called pre-historic times. Bulk of Egyptian and Sumerian gems in astrology lies unattended because all the experts hate astrology, like the so-called Indologists who cannot digest Indian astrology. These evolutionists cannot imagine anything intelligent in ancient civilizations.Rohiniranjan wrote:Maybe my earlier posting got scythed too by REFRESH! Which is not very refreshing to know, but I now understand the SYSTEM better!
I was just agreeing with Vinay_ji's posting about the importance of reading old texts like of Ptolemy etc which might have incorporated some observations etc of other cultures and while the books of those cultures might have dropped off some of those facts from their currently available versions of the text (Indian in this instance), the lost gems might be recovered from a reading of such 'foreign' literature.
Vinay Jha wrote:Yes Dada, this is exactly what I mean. Rev E. Burgess, the commentator of Suryasiddhanta, wrote that the Greeks have never made any original contribution to astronomy (and astrology), they got everything from the East (Egypt, Mesopotamia, India, etc). I do not care for who borrowed or stole from whom, what I know for certain is the proven fact that Astrology has a common source and available data convinces me that this source was India, or to be more exact Vedic Culture which was spread in a vast belt in the so-called pre-historic times. Bulk of Egyptian and Sumerian gems in astrology lies unattended because all the experts hate astrology, like the so-called Indologists who cannot digest Indian astrology. These evolutionists cannot imagine anything intelligent in ancient civilizations.Rohiniranjan wrote:Maybe my earlier posting got scythed too by REFRESH! Which is not very refreshing to know, but I now understand the SYSTEM better!
I was just agreeing with Vinay_ji's posting about the importance of reading old texts like of Ptolemy etc which might have incorporated some observations etc of other cultures and while the books of those cultures might have dropped off some of those facts from their currently available versions of the text (Indian in this instance), the lost gems might be recovered from a reading of such 'foreign' literature.
-VJ
A 'demonstration', if I may, Biltu and I hope it does not make you think any less of me than you already do! :smt003biltu wrote:boyish charm :smt017 what is it ?
Yes, except at one point : democracy may be the best choice for the time being, but in the long run it is the real Individual and not the motley Crowd who fuels evolution.Rohiniranjan wrote:Vinay Jha wrote:Yes Dada, this is exactly what I mean. Rev E. Burgess, the commentator of Suryasiddhanta, wrote that the Greeks have never made any original contribution to astronomy (and astrology), they got everything from the East (Egypt, Mesopotamia, India, etc). I do not care for who borrowed or stole from whom, what I know for certain is the proven fact that Astrology has a common source and available data convinces me that this source was India, or to be more exact Vedic Culture which was spread in a vast belt in the so-called pre-historic times. Bulk of Egyptian and Sumerian gems in astrology lies unattended because all the experts hate astrology, like the so-called Indologists who cannot digest Indian astrology. These evolutionists cannot imagine anything intelligent in ancient civilizations.Rohiniranjan wrote:Maybe my earlier posting got scythed too by REFRESH! Which is not very refreshing to know, but I now understand the SYSTEM better!
I was just agreeing with Vinay_ji's posting about the importance of reading old texts like of Ptolemy etc which might have incorporated some observations etc of other cultures and while the books of those cultures might have dropped off some of those facts from their currently available versions of the text (Indian in this instance), the lost gems might be recovered from a reading of such 'foreign' literature.
-VJ
I have a naive, some would say irrational, belief that certain things in the creation are indeed special and preserved by the Divine Intelligence. It may get shattered, lie dormant, but somewhere, somehow it appears and arises again to the surface. It does take a long long time though. I feel (no objective evidence or one I looked for, really!) that astrology falls in that category, as does 'democracy'!
Lot of people hold a lot of anxiousness about astrology falling in the hands of Kupatras and so on and being misused, or stolen. But sometimes such an act of stealing (borrowing without permission or knowledge of the owner!) turns out to be what preserved that particular stolen segment, over time. Now, the stolen object may be a trinket or a big diamond, is not the point...
The Ways of The Divine are Mysterious, and Mystical, as is the entire field of DIVINATION!
Regards as always,
Dear Dada,Rohiniranjan wrote:Good Heavens NO! Me and teach...!!RishiRahul wrote:Rohiniranjan wrote:Maybe my earlier posting got scythed too by REFRESH! Which is not very refreshing to know, but I now understand the SYSTEM better!
I was just agreeing with Vinay_ji's posting about the importance of reading old texts like of Ptolemy etc which might have incorporated some observations etc of other cultures and while the books of those cultures might have dropped off some of those facts from their currently available versions of the text (Indian in this instance), the lost gems might be recovered from a reading of such 'foreign' literature.
In an intense moment of mine: 2 things.
(1) Mirthfulelness and boyish charm can be good departure from Seriousness; like very serious movies had some lighter moments around.
It can be a good quality to ingest for Serious Jyotishers. I am remembering Vinayji now.
(2) The word 'scythed' reminds me of number 13. Now I understand 13 better. Thanks for the lead.
These are where you teach me....unknowingly.
Thanks,
Rishi
But since you are in intensity now, Scythe also means cutting, like a surgeon does or a farmer. Either way, it is a huge responsiblity on the cutter's shoulders, if you think about it!
Did you know that 13 represents Rahu...?
Love, Light, Learning!
Why leave poor Pluto alone, friend! Let us form the three pairs!RishiRahul wrote:Dear Dada,Rohiniranjan wrote:Good Heavens NO! Me and teach...!!RishiRahul wrote:Rohiniranjan wrote:Maybe my earlier posting got scythed too by REFRESH! Which is not very refreshing to know, but I now understand the SYSTEM better!
I was just agreeing with Vinay_ji's posting about the importance of reading old texts like of Ptolemy etc which might have incorporated some observations etc of other cultures and while the books of those cultures might have dropped off some of those facts from their currently available versions of the text (Indian in this instance), the lost gems might be recovered from a reading of such 'foreign' literature.
In an intense moment of mine: 2 things.
(1) Mirthfulelness and boyish charm can be good departure from Seriousness; like very serious movies had some lighter moments around.
It can be a good quality to ingest for Serious Jyotishers. I am remembering Vinayji now.
(2) The word 'scythed' reminds me of number 13. Now I understand 13 better. Thanks for the lead.
These are where you teach me....unknowingly.
Thanks,
Rishi
But since you are in intensity now, Scythe also means cutting, like a surgeon does or a farmer. Either way, it is a huge responsiblity on the cutter's shoulders, if you think about it!
Did you know that 13 represents Rahu...?
Love, Light, Learning!
The higher octave of Rahu/Uranus.
Rahu & Uranus advises 'structure', and to check inclinations to break (scythe...more applicable for the higher octave 13) off from the usual structure.
The person 'scything', the number 13 himself has to take the responsibility, which can be quite heavy for number 13 (wrongly used power).
No wonder we call Shanivad Rahu.
Rishi
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