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Vedic Roots of Kaala-Sarpa-Yoga

Post by Vinay Jha » Mon Sep 03, 2012 5:46 pm

Namaste All :

Now-a-days many "experts" of Vedic Astrology propagate that Kaala-Sarpa-Yoga is not mentioned in ancient texts and is therefore non-Vedic and non-Indian. They do not read ancient literature, and base their opinions merely on mediaeval textx.

Ashvalaayana Grihya Sutra describes Graha-Poojana (worship of astrological planets) methods in detail, in which the verses on Rahu include methods for "Sarpa-Kaala" which is another form of Kaala-Sarpa. The online version of Ashvalaayana Grihya Sutra is prepared by careless typists who omitted the last portion without reading it, because this portion was titled "Parishishta". These typists thought that the Parishishta was either added later or was useless. But the Parishishta explicitly says that it was composed by the rishi Ashvalaayana and these portions were put in Parishishta because they were related to some special topics. The printed version from some reliable publisher of this Vedic text should be consulted.

Vedas have six limbs (angas) known as Vedaangas. Four out of these six limbs are merely for learning the Vedas : Grammar (Vyaakarana), Prosody (Chhanda), Etymology (Nirukta)and Vedic Recitation (Shikshaa), and the remaining two are for practical implementation of Vedic knowledge

One of them is Jyotisha, and the other is Kalpa. The last is a collection of four categories of Sutra lierature, of which the categories reserved for grihasthas is Grihya Sutra. It describes the Vedic rituals for grihasthas. Without Grihya Sutras, Vedic Yajnas cannot be properly performed. Many important topics of Jyotisha are described in Grihya Sutras, such as muhurtas for events like marriage, sacred thread, etc.

Moreover, I have observed that Kaala-Sarpa-Yoga actually functions very powerfully and should never be neglected. It destroys all normal yogas and weakens very strong yogas. The quality of Kaala-Sarpa-Yoga and the fields of life it influences depends upon the houses in which nodes are placed, as well as on placement of other planets and their combinations. Thus, there are lots of varieties of Kaala-Sarpa-Yoga. Nodes in benefic houses such as trikonas or kendras produce worst forms of Kaala-Sarpa-Yoga.

-Vinay Jha

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Re: Vedic Roots of Kaala-Sarpa-Yoga

Post by Rohiniranjan » Mon Sep 03, 2012 6:10 pm

Vinay Jha wrote:Namaste All :

Now-a-days many "experts" of Vedic Astrology propagate that Kaala-Sarpa-Yoga is not mentioned in ancient texts and is therefore non-Vedic and non-Indian. They do not read ancient literature, and base their opinions merely on mediaeval textx.

Ashvalaayana Grihya Sutra describes Graha-Poojana (worship of astrological planets) methods in detail, in which the verses on Rahu include methods for "Sarpa-Kaala" which is another form of Kaala-Sarpa. The online version of Ashvalaayana Grihya Sutra is prepared by careless typists who omitted the last portion without reading it, because this portion was titled "Parishishta". These typists thought that the Parishishta was either added later or was useless. But the Parishishta explicitly says that it was composed by the rishi Ashvalaayana and these portions were put in Parishishta because they were related to some special topics. The printed version from some reliable publisher of this Vedic text should be consulted.

Vedas have six limbs (angas) known as Vedaangas. Four out of these six limbs are merely for learning the Vedas : Grammar (Vyaakarana), Prosody (Chhanda), Etymology (Nirukta)and Vedic Recitation (Shikshaa), and the remaining two are for practical implementation of Vedic knowledge

One of them is Jyotisha, and the other is Kalpa. The last is a collection of four categories of Sutra lierature, of which the categories reserved for grihasthas is Grihya Sutra. It describes the Vedic rituals for grihasthas. Without Grihya Sutras, Vedic Yajnas cannot be properly performed. Many important topics of Jyotisha are described in Grihya Sutras, such as muhurtas for events like marriage, sacred thread, etc.

Moreover, I have observed that Kaala-Sarpa-Yoga actually functions very powerfully and should never be neglected. It destroys all normal yogas and weakens very strong yogas. The quality of Kaala-Sarpa-Yoga and the fields of life it influences depends upon the houses in which nodes are placed, as well as on placement of other planets and their combinations. Thus, there are lots of varieties of Kaala-Sarpa-Yoga. Nodes in benefic houses such as trikonas or kendras produce worst forms of Kaala-Sarpa-Yoga.

-Vinay Jha

What you wrote in your last para, based on your observations, has been similarly observed in my experience too. Despite all the very strong views expressed by modern doyens of Jyotish -- KSY can be a very strong challenge and often strikes suddenly and where least expected.

However, one must carefully study these charts and not go running to one of the temples in South India or by proxy, as is often done by some!

Incidentally, the Rahu-Kalam (nothing to do with KSY) boogy-man which generates a lot of fear in the South and religiously avoided by many -- does it also get mentioned in these Sutras?

I have noticed that in the Southern literature, there are a lot of such publications (ancient or perhaps some more recent ones too). I am just curious about whether similar older writings also exist in other parts of India as well but overly guarded in families and paramparas?

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Sarpa-kaala in Ashvalaayana-grihya-sutram : reference

Post by Vinay Jha » Tue Sep 04, 2012 6:48 pm

Book Title : Ashvalaayana-grihya-sutram

Edited and commented by Dr Jamuna Pathak

Publisher : Chowkhamba Sanskrit Series, its website :

www.chowkhambasanskritseries.com

email :  cssoffice@satyam.net.in

Relevant portion is in 2nd chapter of Ashvalaayana-grihya-parishishtam, Sanskrit on page 330 and Hindi on page 334. This chapter describes the entire procedure of Graha-yajna for propitiating nine planets. Unfortunately, this Vedic yajna for Graha-shaanti is now not practised by Jyotishis or Vaidikas and short-cuts are used for cost-saving. But this book tells us that a minimum of nine priests can perform this Nava-graha yajna, which is not too costly.

In thuis yajna, the invocation (aavaahana) portion of Yajna requests Rahu to come with Sarpa and Kaala ("Sarpakaalaabhyaam") to participate in the yajna.

Since this book is concerned with yajna and not directly with Jyotisha, we cannot expect to get more information about Sarpakaala or Kaalasarpa, but it is clear that Rahu was propitiated for astrological reasons in Vedic texts and Rahu was associated with some malefic thing known as Sarpa + kaala (two separate entities, because "Sarpakaalaabhyaam" is used in dual number). Kaala and Sarpa are two different things and are some entities different from Rahu but associated with Rahu. It implies that Sarpakaala is not a permanent attribute of Rahu, and Rahu may or may not come with Sarpakaala. Anothe implication of this chapter is that if Rahu with Sarpakaala are worshipped properly through this yajna, they may turn into benefics, or at least their malefic attributes may get diluted..

We cannot get more information due to loss of ancient texts. Even BPHS has lost two thirds of its contents according to a verse in Mumbai's Khemraj edition of BPHS. Nearly 2 lakh Sanskrit manuscripts have already been catalogued in India and more are being done, which need publication. We may hope to get more information after these texts get published. But there is no serious plan to this end from any university or govt. Private initiate needs team effort, which is wanting.

-Vinay Jha
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Re: Sarpa-kaala in Ashvalaayana-grihya-sutram : reference

Post by Rohiniranjan » Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:13 pm

Vinay Jha wrote:Book Title : Ashvalaayana-grihya-sutram

Edited and commented by Dr Jamuna Pathak

Publisher : Chowkhamba Sanskrit Series, its website :

www.chowkhambasanskritseries.com

email :  cssoffice@satyam.net.in

Relevant portion is in 2nd chapter of Ashvalaayana-grihya-parishishtam, Sanskrit on page 330 and Hindi on page 334. This chapter describes the entire procedure of Graha-yajna for propitiating nine planets. Unfortunately, this Vedic yajna for Graha-shaanti is now not practised by Jyotishis or Vaidikas and short-cuts are used for cost-saving. But this book tells us that a minimum of nine priests can perform this Nava-graha yajna, which is not too costly.

In thuis yajna, the invocation (aavaahana) portion of Yajna requests Rahu to come with Sarpa and Kaala ("Sarpakaalaabhyaam") to participate in the yajna.

Since this book is concerned with yajna and not directly with Jyotisha, we cannot expect to get more information about Sarpakaala or Kaalasarpa, but it is clear that Rahu was propitiated for astrological reasons in Vedic texts and Rahu was associated with some malefic thing known as Sarpa + kaala (two separate entities, because "Sarpakaalaabhyaam" is used in dual number). Kaala and Sarpa are two different things and are some entities different from Rahu but associated with Rahu. It implies that Sarpakaala is not a permanent attribute of Rahu, and Rahu may or may not come with Sarpakaala. Anothe implication of this chapter is that if Rahu with Sarpakaala are worshipped properly through this yajna, they may turn into benefics, or at least their malefic attributes may get diluted..

We cannot get more information due to loss of ancient texts. Even BPHS has lost two thirds of its contents according to a verse in Mumbai's Khemraj edition of BPHS. Nearly 2 lakh Sanskrit manuscripts have already been catalogued in India and more are being done, which need publication. We may hope to get more information after these texts get published. But there is no serious plan to this end from any university or govt. Private initiate needs team effort, which is wanting.

-Vinay Jha
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Kala Sarpa Yoga, in my view has three items:
There is Kala, there is Sarpa and there is the 'Yoga' between the two former!

No clear directive exists or remain which can dissect the two former and then bring them together (third key word), hence munday munday mati bhinna...!

But we cannot solve the problems of the world or the world-of-jyotishis, hence we shall leave it at that!

Ekla Cholo Ray!

Love, Light, Ray...

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Re: Vedic Roots of Kaala-Sarpa-Yoga

Post by Brahma Mihira » Fri Sep 07, 2012 4:15 am

Vinay Jha wrote:Namaste All :

Now-a-days many "experts" of Vedic Astrology propagate that Kaala-Sarpa-Yoga is not mentioned in ancient texts and is therefore non-Vedic and non-Indian. They do not read ancient literature, and base their opinions merely on mediaeval textx.

Ashvalaayana Grihya Sutra describes Graha-Poojana (worship of astrological planets) methods in detail, in which the verses on Rahu include methods for "Sarpa-Kaala" which is another form of Kaala-Sarpa. The online version of Ashvalaayana Grihya Sutra is prepared by careless typists who omitted the last portion without reading it, because this portion was titled "Parishishta". These typists thought that the Parishishta was either added later or was useless. But the Parishishta explicitly says that it was composed by the rishi Ashvalaayana and these portions were put in Parishishta because they were related to some special topics. The printed version from some reliable publisher of this Vedic text should be consulted.

Vedas have six limbs (angas) known as Vedaangas. Four out of these six limbs are merely for learning the Vedas : Grammar (Vyaakarana), Prosody (Chhanda), Etymology (Nirukta)and Vedic Recitation (Shikshaa), and the remaining two are for practical implementation of Vedic knowledge

One of them is Jyotisha, and the other is Kalpa. The last is a collection of four categories of Sutra lierature, of which the categories reserved for grihasthas is Grihya Sutra. It describes the Vedic rituals for grihasthas. Without Grihya Sutras, Vedic Yajnas cannot be properly performed. Many important topics of Jyotisha are described in Grihya Sutras, such as muhurtas for events like marriage, sacred thread, etc.

Moreover, I have observed that Kaala-Sarpa-Yoga actually functions very powerfully and should never be neglected. It destroys all normal yogas and weakens very strong yogas. The quality of Kaala-Sarpa-Yoga and the fields of life it influences depends upon the houses in which nodes are placed, as well as on placement of other planets and their combinations. Thus, there are lots of varieties of Kaala-Sarpa-Yoga. Nodes in benefic houses such as trikonas or kendras produce worst forms of Kaala-Sarpa-Yoga.

-Vinay Jha


Dear VJ, I also accept what you said things, when experiments with charts it is clearly see people who had KSY, it helps to destroy all powerful yogas, suddenly problems occurs esp. in beneficial planetary periods. These people lost their happy cause of one incident. However one should not waste their money for amulets and poojas in commercial jyotish world regarding on KSY.

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Re: Vedic Roots of Kaala-Sarpa-Yoga

Post by Rohiniranjan » Fri Sep 07, 2012 4:59 am

Brahma Mihira wrote:
Dear VJ, I also accept what you said things, when experiments with charts it is clearly see people who had KSY, it helps to destroy all powerful yogas, suddenly problems occurs esp. in beneficial planetary periods. These people lost their happy cause of one incident. However one should not waste their money for amulets and poojas in commercial jyotish world regarding on KSY.

The asur Swarbhanu was perhaps just desirous of being loved, just wanted to belong and be counted!

Suddenly, it was made to realize that it did not belong and while some foul-play might have been involved (ancient accounts are not clear!) including divine -- humans have always faced the simple question! Here are the facts that were handed down to you, and all the knowledge of YORE! Where do you go next...?

Three choices available: Forward (natural), Backwards (cautious?) and Status Quo (Nothing? Resting??)

Perhaps some would maintain that a fourth one is available too...?

They would not tell for each must find it individually...

Love, Light, Reality!

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