Rohiniranjan wrote:RishiRahul wrote:mysbcrs wrote:Can it be that Dharma is social while Moksha is personal (albeit to "lose" oneself)?How can the need for Dharma ever vanish for anyone?
Well. If compared, 'Dharma' is probably more social than 'Moksha'.
Of course, 'Moksha' is a very personal experience; thus abs personal. I doubt if 2 natives together can achieve it like 'Romeo & Juliet' or 'Einstein & E=mcsquare'.
Isnt 'Dharma' less personal than 'Moksha'?! At least mathematically..
The D9 shows 'Dharma' and 'marriage' too.
Everyone has his own Dharma; Gets married or lives in with someone. Right?
'Living in', like 'marriage', is also a different level of 'Dharma'............But certainly 'Dharma' as its is contained in D9.
Rishi
Unlike Biltu who likes to pick and choose statements and then focuses on that - which shows a somewhat focused and 'tiny bytes/bites" strategy, and shares beautiful images and imageries (like our revered Thakur and the simple but elegantly floral AURA with very meaningful colour and flower arrangements in the image he shared), I like to see a bigger slice in trying to connect the dots, primarily for my sake but like to share that as I am doing in this post and have in other ones, which have caused some irritation and PITTA in others who are focused but too serious and in some kind of a hurry to emancipate!)
Rishi== In the present fast paced world, its sad when people try to emancipate in a hurry......and ultimately go further away from it.
Biltu probably does this because of business and engineering background as he shared and I can understand his need to focus on small slices but with intensity! What I admire about him is his humour and passion for life and all that it offers! He is blessed that way! (sorry for long posting!!)
Rishi==This probably means that business & engineering is not a perfect qualification for attaining mosksha.
Humour aside, it is true that the trend of thinking is attained thru the background/thinking style one has.
But his innocent (seemingly...!) questions are like an ant-bite and at least make me get thinking...
It helps me purrsonally because I am a humble, open and samsarik praani who never claimed to be self-realized or pretending to be all-knowing and my directness at times have made some individuals think that I am arrogant or haughty or even condescendingWHAT A JOKE!! But such *medals* from individuals have helped me understand how astrology works and this so called mysterious and mystical entity called SYNASTRY! The interactions between two birthcharts and the individuals that those represent or encapsulate insofar as *descriptors and descriptions* go!
Rishi==Oh! Synastry is wonderful. Use vimshoaari dasa in operation in synastry to the partners chart position & vice versa for more specific results in terms of timings.
No books; just some tongue twisting. Came upon it by chance.
Divisional 9 or Varga 9 as I like to call navamsha is often concretely dismissed as the marriage chart or marriage partner's chart and some venturing a bit farther, very cautiously, lately even chart for dharma and religion and religiousness and the rest of the 9 yards! 9 Is such a mystical number <LOL>
Rishi==Dhasrma is main, I think. Dharmamsa makes a lot of sense. Many do not understand what Dharma is.
D9 shows the level of Dharma the chart is based upon... nothing material/directly material by nature.
Now the Dharma is dived in two extremes.... namely 'extreme dharma' & 'extreme Adharma'.
Navamsa shows both. ............My understanding.
Navamsha has been almost intuitively picked up in recent several decades as the next most important chart to lagna chart (Rashi, D1, V1; KSHETRA VARGA) and few disagree or deny that and those who do, do so very feebly!
Rishi==Therefore it is the next most important as also it shows the psychology of the chart.
What if V9 has a personal indication, message that goes beyond those somewhat mechanical and superficial labels that are 'mechanically-employed'!
Rishi==Yes, I would think so too.
If we think of that varga as a chart that shows 'the missing part of the puzzle' and as a complementary chart? The chart that would make our current life-path mission COMPLETE?
Can be wife, can be dharma, can be bhagya (according to some!), but really it is not about material aspects alone! Rather -- it is the descriptor of what we need to complete the understanding, path and purpose of current life-time.
And the seeker must not dive too hastily into the usual indolent strategy: What if I have mercury in the 9th or 7th in my V9 or what would be the significance of pisces rising in V9 etc etc etc.
Jyotish has a built-in self-preserving *amulet* built-in and this is consistently demonstrated in nearly all ancient writings that have survived time!
Complement, mind you! Not compliment or suppliment!!
Love, Light, Sharing...!
Rishi