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Very appropriate for Jyotish forums (Ignore the promo at the end!)
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Re: Very appropriate for Jyotish forums (Ignore the promo at the end!)
Just to help you along...
Segment 4:39 to 8:21 are crucial!!
... is what ASTRO-GNOSIS is all about!
What the charakaraks (hands) and the INSIGHT is all about!
If you could IDENTIFY and WILL embrace ...
NO further REMEDIES would ever be needed or required!
Tall Order? YOU BET!!
Love, Light and REALITY!
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Re: Very appropriate for Jyotish forums (Ignore the promo at the end!)
Rohiniranjan wrote:
Just to help you along...
Segment 4:39 to 8:21 are crucial!!
... is what ASTRO-GNOSIS is all about!
What the charakaraks (hands) and the INSIGHT is all about!
If you could IDENTIFY and WILL embrace ...
NO further REMEDIES would ever be needed or required!
Tall Order? YOU BET!!
Love, Light and REALITY!
Dada,
The charakaraks & hands did interest me all along you mentioned it much earlier.
I heard the video.
Please pardon me if what I understood seems exasperating.
Charakaraks are how we perceive the karak factor.....?!
Of course, this has been my (unconfirmed) understanding till now.
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Rohiniranjan wrote:No Rishi!
Rohiniranjan wrote:try my dasha primer on scribd.RishiRahul wrote:good to understand padas & charakaraks.
RishiRahul
Dear Dada,
Sorry, I wanted to give more free quality time to the understanding.
I still did not understand the 'feet' bit well, though I believe that it is true...my gut sense!
A question: Do the karaks act like 'eyes'?
Of course, there are karaks & charakaraks.
Eyes or hands is not important for me, though both can make sense.
I, seriously, would like to assimilate/comprehend the concept.
Rishi
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RishiRahul wrote:Rohiniranjan wrote:No Rishi!Rohiniranjan wrote:try my dasha primer on scribd.RishiRahul wrote:good to understand padas & charakaraks.
RishiRahul
Dear Dada,
Sorry, I wanted to give more free quality time to the understanding.
I still did not understand the 'feet' bit well, though I believe that it is true...my gut sense!
A question: Do the karaks act like 'eyes'?
Of course, there are karaks & charakaraks.
Eyes or hands is not important for me, though both can make sense.
I, seriously, would like to assimilate/comprehend the concept.
Rishi
Rishi,
We all when we use analogies (which I love to death!) we are using a 'framework' that is similar but not identical, to explain another framework! Like feet and hands, and astrological symbolism!
We must not take these in a concrete manner! Sometimes we all get too focused on the objects in an analogy (feet for instance, or hands!) and then risk becoming confused.
Padas (literally feet or some think also seat or location. The pivotal point!) are what must be stable and firm and strong. Then the karakas (executors, the doers) will be able to express their role strongly and more effectively. If dhana-pada is weak, a strong dhan-karaka will not be able to indicate full expression. If dara-pada is strong, even a weak dara-karaka will be destined to indicate (express) its astrological promise more clearly and strongly!
Now examine that, as homework!
Love, Light, I am NOT A TEACHER!
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Rohiniranjan wrote:RishiRahul wrote:Rohiniranjan wrote:No Rishi!Rohiniranjan wrote:try my dasha primer on scribd.RishiRahul wrote:good to understand padas & charakaraks.
RishiRahul
Dear Dada,
Sorry, I wanted to give more free quality time to the understanding.
I still did not understand the 'feet' bit well, though I believe that it is true...my gut sense!
A question: Do the karaks act like 'eyes'?
Of course, there are karaks & charakaraks.
Eyes or hands is not important for me, though both can make sense.
I, seriously, would like to assimilate/comprehend the concept.
Rishi
Rishi,
We all when we use analogies (which I love to death!) we are using a 'framework' that is similar but not identical, to explain another framework! Like feet and hands, and astrological symbolism!
We must not take these in a concrete manner! Sometimes we all get too focused on the objects in an analogy (feet for instance, or hands!) and then risk becoming confused.
Padas (literally feet or some think also seat or location. The pivotal point!) are what must be stable and firm and strong. Then the karakas (executors, the doers) will be able to express their role strongly and more effectively. If dhana-pada is weak, a strong dhan-karaka will not be able to indicate full expression. If dara-pada is strong, even a weak dara-karaka will be destined to indicate (express) its astrological promise more clearly and strongly!
Now examine that, as homework!
Love, Light, I am NOT A TEACHER!
Dada,
A typo from my side: I understood the 'feet' bit all right.
I was talking of karaks as hands (doers).
After some homework:=(1) if the dhana pada is strong; but the karak is afflicted= the native makes much money/is born with much money.. but cannot sustain it.
(2) If dhana pada is weak; but karak is good= one not born with much money....gained some marginal amounts in the course of life.
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RishiRahul wrote:Rohiniranjan wrote:RishiRahul wrote:Rohiniranjan wrote:No Rishi!Rohiniranjan wrote:try my dasha primer on scribd.RishiRahul wrote:good to understand padas & charakaraks.
RishiRahul
Dear Dada,
Sorry, I wanted to give more free quality time to the understanding.
I still did not understand the 'feet' bit well, though I believe that it is true...my gut sense!
A question: Do the karaks act like 'eyes'?
Of course, there are karaks & charakaraks.
Eyes or hands is not important for me, though both can make sense.
I, seriously, would like to assimilate/comprehend the concept.
Rishi
Rishi,
We all when we use analogies (which I love to death!) we are using a 'framework' that is similar but not identical, to explain another framework! Like feet and hands, and astrological symbolism!
We must not take these in a concrete manner! Sometimes we all get too focused on the objects in an analogy (feet for instance, or hands!) and then risk becoming confused.
Padas (literally feet or some think also seat or location. The pivotal point!) are what must be stable and firm and strong. Then the karakas (executors, the doers) will be able to express their role strongly and more effectively. If dhana-pada is weak, a strong dhan-karaka will not be able to indicate full expression. If dara-pada is strong, even a weak dara-karaka will be destined to indicate (express) its astrological promise more clearly and strongly!
Now examine that, as homework!
Love, Light, I am NOT A TEACHER!
Dada,
A typo from my side: I understood the 'feet' bit all right.
I was talking of karaks as hands (doers).
After some homework:=(1) if the dhana pada is strong; but the karak is afflicted= the native makes much money/is born with much money.. but cannot sustain it.
(2) If dhana pada is weak; but karak is good= one not born with much money....gained some marginal amounts in the course of life.
Rishi
Dhana represents 2nd house and not just money!
Other aspects of 2nd house might also be an 'issue'. Unless other mitigating factors exist!
You see, this is why I cringe when anyone focuses too much on one factor or rule -- be it karakas, padas, mahapurusha yogas and combustion!
I hope you or other readers do not take this as 'criticism' from an old man!
I have made similar one factor mistakes and have seen others make the same, many many times!. It is my duty as a servant of jyotish to WARN! Like the Misir jee chowkidar in Chela Tales...!
You see, it has been more like my "dharma" (right action) than my 'karma' (obligation)!
Love and Light!
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Rohiniranjan wrote:RishiRahul wrote:Rohiniranjan wrote:RishiRahul wrote:Rohiniranjan wrote:No Rishi!Rohiniranjan wrote:try my dasha primer on scribd.RishiRahul wrote:good to understand padas & charakaraks.
RishiRahul
Dear Dada,
Sorry, I wanted to give more free quality time to the understanding.
I still did not understand the 'feet' bit well, though I believe that it is true...my gut sense!
A question: Do the karaks act like 'eyes'?
Of course, there are karaks & charakaraks.
Eyes or hands is not important for me, though both can make sense.
I, seriously, would like to assimilate/comprehend the concept.
Rishi
Rishi,
We all when we use analogies (which I love to death!) we are using a 'framework' that is similar but not identical, to explain another framework! Like feet and hands, and astrological symbolism!
We must not take these in a concrete manner! Sometimes we all get too focused on the objects in an analogy (feet for instance, or hands!) and then risk becoming confused.
Padas (literally feet or some think also seat or location. The pivotal point!) are what must be stable and firm and strong. Then the karakas (executors, the doers) will be able to express their role strongly and more effectively. If dhana-pada is weak, a strong dhan-karaka will not be able to indicate full expression. If dara-pada is strong, even a weak dara-karaka will be destined to indicate (express) its astrological promise more clearly and strongly!
Now examine that, as homework!
Love, Light, I am NOT A TEACHER!
Dada,
A typo from my side: I understood the 'feet' bit all right.
I was talking of karaks as hands (doers).
After some homework:=(1) if the dhana pada is strong; but the karak is afflicted= the native makes much money/is born with much money.. but cannot sustain it.
(2) If dhana pada is weak; but karak is good= one not born with much money....gained some marginal amounts in the course of life.
Rishi
Dhana represents 2nd house and not just money!
Other aspects of 2nd house might also be an 'issue'. Unless other mitigating factors exist!
You see, this is why I cringe when anyone focuses too much on one factor or rule -- be it karakas, padas, mahapurusha yogas and combustion!
I hope you or other readers do not take this as 'criticism' from an old man!
I have made similar one factor mistakes and have seen others make the same, many many times!. It is my duty as a servant of jyotish to WARN! Like the Misir jee chowkidar in Chela Tales...!
You see, it has been more like my "dharma" (right action) than my
'karma' (obligation)!
Love and Light!
I am aware of this very much.
Regarding the 'old man' bit: We are all still yet to be 'old' for Jyotish. Right :)
The 'misree ji' tales are effective for learning, no doubt.
What we are doing is a technical post mortem. Am aware that none of these are cent percent correct/precise.
Rishi
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By old I was referring to age, the clock gradually winding down as is inevitable -- and not as in 'experience'.RishiRahul wrote:Rohiniranjan wrote:RishiRahul wrote:Rohiniranjan wrote:RishiRahul wrote:Rohiniranjan wrote:No Rishi!Rohiniranjan wrote:try my dasha primer on scribd.RishiRahul wrote:good to understand padas & charakaraks.
RishiRahul
Dear Dada,
Sorry, I wanted to give more free quality time to the understanding.
I still did not understand the 'feet' bit well, though I believe that it is true...my gut sense!
A question: Do the karaks act like 'eyes'?
Of course, there are karaks & charakaraks.
Eyes or hands is not important for me, though both can make sense.
I, seriously, would like to assimilate/comprehend the concept.
Rishi
Rishi,
We all when we use analogies (which I love to death!) we are using a 'framework' that is similar but not identical, to explain another framework! Like feet and hands, and astrological symbolism!
We must not take these in a concrete manner! Sometimes we all get too focused on the objects in an analogy (feet for instance, or hands!) and then risk becoming confused.
Padas (literally feet or some think also seat or location. The pivotal point!) are what must be stable and firm and strong. Then the karakas (executors, the doers) will be able to express their role strongly and more effectively. If dhana-pada is weak, a strong dhan-karaka will not be able to indicate full expression. If dara-pada is strong, even a weak dara-karaka will be destined to indicate (express) its astrological promise more clearly and strongly!
Now examine that, as homework!
Love, Light, I am NOT A TEACHER!
Dada,
A typo from my side: I understood the 'feet' bit all right.
I was talking of karaks as hands (doers).
After some homework:=(1) if the dhana pada is strong; but the karak is afflicted= the native makes much money/is born with much money.. but cannot sustain it.
(2) If dhana pada is weak; but karak is good= one not born with much money....gained some marginal amounts in the course of life.
Rishi
Dhana represents 2nd house and not just money!
Other aspects of 2nd house might also be an 'issue'. Unless other mitigating factors exist!
You see, this is why I cringe when anyone focuses too much on one factor or rule -- be it karakas, padas, mahapurusha yogas and combustion!
I hope you or other readers do not take this as 'criticism' from an old man!
I have made similar one factor mistakes and have seen others make the same, many many times!. It is my duty as a servant of jyotish to WARN! Like the Misir jee chowkidar in Chela Tales...!
You see, it has been more like my "dharma" (right action) than my
'karma' (obligation)!
Love and Light!
I am aware of this very much.
Regarding the 'old man' bit: We are all still yet to be 'old' for Jyotish. Right :)
The 'misree ji' tales are effective for learning, no doubt.
What we are doing is a technical post mortem. Am aware that none of these are cent percent correct/precise.
Rishi
Love, Light, Reality!
Rohiniranjan
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