Star-studded Day!

[Rohiniranjan]

There was a question from an individual who is an actor, recently somewhere -- probably reading forum. Surely, significant stars must have some combination etc or planetary arrangement that marks their ingress into earthly reality.

What was so special on 2 Nov 1965 when a Star-to-be was born in Mumbai!;EDIT: CAUTION! Some sites indicate Delhi as birthplace which matches the info in Wikiedia...! A couple or more sites also give the time as 2:30 AM - No guaranties!

This is NOT a quiz but hopefully a thought-starter...!

Rohiniranjan

[RishiRahul]

There was a question from an individual who is an actor, recently somewhere -- probably reading forum. Surely, significant stars must have some combination etc or planetary arrangement that marks their ingress into earthly reality.

What was so special on 2 Nov 1965 when a Star-to-be was born in Mumbai!

This is NOT a quiz but hopefully a thought-starter...!

Rohiniranjan

Dada,

The atmakarak Mars is strong in own house conjunct the nodes, mercury, as pected by Saturn.

Such charts would have an early life issues of limited parental finances, & also financial issues to deal with .

Rishi

[Rohiniranjan]

There was a question from an individual who is an actor, recently somewhere -- probably reading forum. Surely, significant stars must have some combination etc or planetary arrangement that marks their ingress into earthly reality.

What was so special on 2 Nov 1965 when a Star-to-be was born in Mumbai!

This is NOT a quiz but hopefully a thought-starter...!

Rohiniranjan

Dada,

The atmakarak Mars is strong in own house conjunct the nodes, mercury, as pected by Saturn.

Such charts would have an early life issues of limited parental finances, & also financial issues to deal with .

Rishi

Shahrukh Khan. See if you find something corroborative in his bios on the net.

[RishiRahul]

There was a question from an individual who is an actor, recently somewhere -- probably reading forum. Surely, significant stars must have some combination etc or planetary arrangement that marks their ingress into earthly reality.

What was so special on 2 Nov 1965 when a Star-to-be was born in Mumbai!

This is NOT a quiz but hopefully a thought-starter...!

Rohiniranjan

Dada,

The atmakarak Mars is strong in own house conjunct the nodes, mercury, as pected by Saturn.

Such charts would have an early life issues of limited parental finances, & also financial issues to deal with .

Rishi

Shahrukh Khan. See if you find something corroborative in his bios on the net.

Without knowing that it was Shahrukh Khan's birthdate (not birthtime); the atmakarak was seen strong & well involved with other planets.

Financial issues were seen with numerology meanings with financial difficult/restricted early life.

The native turned out a Superstar, Sharukh Khan.

Finances has had a major play in life with a lot of 'Philanthropy' too.
Showing a strong interplay of finances (due to the lack of it/abundance).

Shahrukh Khan is famous/very well known.
Let us see his Sun without the birthtime.

On 2 Nov Sun is debilitated; also bad/afflicted in navamsa depending on the birthtime in navamsa.
This LOGIC goes to say that Jyotish or his birthdate is wrong/incorrect.
(one must remember that birthtime is not considered here)

Which is true?!!

If the Sun planetis down, such should be seen in the palm too; The sun line is nearly absent; though the mount is strong.

The numbers say he is actually is very homely & has 'hermit' like basic nature.

Now coming to Shahrukh Khan; its obvious that his nature shows a strong mercury, as his hand does so brilliantly.

His birth planetary positions reveal that it is with atmakarak Mars; also exalted or well aspected in navamsa (depending on the birthtime on the date).
The king of the chart is Mars (atmakarak/basic nature) is with mercury & Ketu.

His nature reveals a strong/active mercury & a hermit like nature basic nature, more prominent in later life...His life path being 7.

Retro Jupiter in mercury's sign Mithun also accentuates mercury.

The numerological issue/importance in finance when seen astrologically= the dhanakarak Jupiter is samasaptak with Venus & aspect Mars.

Rishi

[Rohiniranjan]

The date is as per biodata available, so there will always be the doubt regarding authenticity. However, in recent times, the data for relatively younger actors (Holly and Bolly, more so the former) tends to be reasonably accurate, certainly the DoB. They are less likely to be sensitive to 'age' as the earlier ones used to be, particularly the ladies. But still one has got to be cautious.

Incidentally, the date is the same given at his facebook too where he seems to respond directly to fans via tweeter etc. I doubt very much that it is all a scam or promotional gimmick. I have seen him upclose in Maurya in November 2012 and caught his eye for a second. There was a gentle humbleness in his demeneaur and a shyness in his gaze. Well he is a professional actor so I won't bet on it, but I had the feeling that it was genuine.

According to web he must have had a comfortable childhood though perhaps not rich but at age 15 his father died and the family had to see days of hardship. His mother died when he was older.

Best wishes,

Rohiniranjan

[RishiRahul]

There was a question from an individual who is an actor, recently somewhere -- probably reading forum. Surely, significant stars must have some combination etc or planetary arrangement that marks their ingress into earthly reality.

What was so special on 2 Nov 1965 when a Star-to-be was born in Mumbai!

This is NOT a quiz but hopefully a thought-starter...!

Rohiniranjan

Dada,

The atmakarak Mars is strong in own house conjunct the nodes, mercury, as pected by Saturn.

Such charts would have an early life issues of limited parental finances, & also financial issues to deal with .

Rishi

Shahrukh Khan. See if you find something corroborative in his bios on the net.

Without knowing that it was Shahrukh Khan's birthdate (not birthtime); the atmakarak was seen strong & well involved with other planets.

Financial issues were seen with numerology meanings with financial difficult/restricted early life.

The native turned out a Superstar, Sharukh Khan.

Finances has had a major play in life with a lot of 'Philanthropy' too.
Showing a strong interplay of finances (due to the lack of it/abundance).

Shahrukh Khan is famous/very well known.
Let us see his Sun without the birthtime.

On 2 Nov Sun is debilitated; also bad/afflicted in navamsa depending on the birthtime in navamsa.
This LOGIC goes to say that Jyotish or his birthdate is wrong/incorrect.
(one must remember that birthtime is not considered here)

Which is true?!!

If the Sun planetis down, such should be seen in the palm too; The sun line is nearly absent; though the mount is strong.

The numbers say he is actually is very homely & has 'hermit' like basic nature.

Now coming to Shahrukh Khan; its obvious that his nature shows a strong mercury, as his hand does so brilliantly.

His birth planetary positions reveal that it is with atmakarak Mars; also exalted or well aspected in navamsa (depending on the birthtime on the date).
The king of the chart is Mars (atmakarak/basic nature) is with mercury & Ketu.

His nature reveals a strong/active mercury & a hermit like nature basic nature, more prominent in later life...His life path being 7.

Retro Jupiter in mercury's sign Mithun also accentuates mercury.

The numerological issue/importance in finance when seen astrologically= the dhanakarak Jupiter is samasaptak with Venus & aspect Mars.

Rishi

The date is as per biodata available, so there will always be the doubt regarding authenticity. However, in recent times, the data for relatively younger actors (Holly and Bolly, more so the former) tends to be reasonably accurate, certainly the DoB. They are less likely to be sensitive to 'age' as the earlier ones used to be, particularly the ladies. But still one has got to be cautious.

Incidentally, the date is the same given at his facebook too where he seems to respond directly to fans via tweeter etc. I doubt very much that it is all a scam or promotional gimmick. I have seen him upclose in Maurya in November 2012 and caught his eye for a second. There was a gentle humbleness in his demeneaur and a shyness in his gaze. Well he is a professional actor so I won't bet on it, but I had the feeling that it was genuine.

According to web he must have had a comfortable childhood though perhaps not rich but at age 15 his father died and the family had to see days of hardship. His mother died when he was older.

Best wishes,

Rohiniranjan

Dada,

http://www.indianetzone.com/36/childhoo ... _actor.htm

Rishi

[Rohiniranjan]

There was a question from an individual who is an actor, recently somewhere -- probably reading forum. Surely, significant stars must have some combination etc or planetary arrangement that marks their ingress into earthly reality.

What was so special on 2 Nov 1965 when a Star-to-be was born in Mumbai!

This is NOT a quiz but hopefully a thought-starter...!

Rohiniranjan

Dada,

The atmakarak Mars is strong in own house conjunct the nodes, mercury, as pected by Saturn.

Such charts would have an early life issues of limited parental finances, & also financial issues to deal with .

Rishi

Shahrukh Khan. See if you find something corroborative in his bios on the net.

Without knowing that it was Shahrukh Khan's birthdate (not birthtime); the atmakarak was seen strong & well involved with other planets.

Financial issues were seen with numerology meanings with financial difficult/restricted early life.

The native turned out a Superstar, Sharukh Khan.

Finances has had a major play in life with a lot of 'Philanthropy' too.
Showing a strong interplay of finances (due to the lack of it/abundance).

Shahrukh Khan is famous/very well known.
Let us see his Sun without the birthtime.

On 2 Nov Sun is debilitated; also bad/afflicted in navamsa depending on the birthtime in navamsa.
This LOGIC goes to say that Jyotish or his birthdate is wrong/incorrect.
(one must remember that birthtime is not considered here)

Which is true?!!

If the Sun planetis down, such should be seen in the palm too; The sun line is nearly absent; though the mount is strong.

The numbers say he is actually is very homely & has 'hermit' like basic nature.

Now coming to Shahrukh Khan; its obvious that his nature shows a strong mercury, as his hand does so brilliantly.

His birth planetary positions reveal that it is with atmakarak Mars; also exalted or well aspected in navamsa (depending on the birthtime on the date).
The king of the chart is Mars (atmakarak/basic nature) is with mercury & Ketu.

His nature reveals a strong/active mercury & a hermit like nature basic nature, more prominent in later life...His life path being 7.

Retro Jupiter in mercury's sign Mithun also accentuates mercury.

The numerological issue/importance in finance when seen astrologically= the dhanakarak Jupiter is samasaptak with Venus & aspect Mars.

Rishi

The date is as per biodata available, so there will always be the doubt regarding authenticity. However, in recent times, the data for relatively younger actors (Holly and Bolly, more so the former) tends to be reasonably accurate, certainly the DoB. They are less likely to be sensitive to 'age' as the earlier ones used to be, particularly the ladies. But still one has got to be cautious.

Incidentally, the date is the same given at his facebook too where he seems to respond directly to fans via tweeter etc. I doubt very much that it is all a scam or promotional gimmick. I have seen him upclose in Maurya in November 2012 and caught his eye for a second. There was a gentle humbleness in his demeneaur and a shyness in his gaze. Well he is a professional actor so I won't bet on it, but I had the feeling that it was genuine.

According to web he must have had a comfortable childhood though perhaps not rich but at age 15 his father died and the family had to see days of hardship. His mother died when he was older.

Best wishes,

Rohiniranjan

Dada,

http://www.indianetzone.com/36/childhoo ... _actor.htm

Rishi

Thank Goddess for search engines and internet that we can dig up such valuable and rare information at times

Just curious, why was the link "disabled"? By Shahrukh Khan or his associates for 'image' purposes etc...?

Anyways, thanks!

Love, Light, Chal chaiyaa chainyaa, chaiyaan chainyaa...!

Rohiniranjan

[Rohiniranjan]

Rishi,

Following your lead I did some snooping too and a few sites seemed to quote the birthtime as 2:30 AM.

The trail is getting warmer, eh Watson!

From the infinite and indefinite, we move an inch closer to the Bolly-Godhead! But it still remains a slippery slope! (pardon my bizarre poetic sense!)

Love, Light, Levity!

Rohiniranjan


[Adding some more stuff to this thread...!]

This is funny and somewhat biological but pretty factual! Unless the reader is too serious (Please close your browser in that case)!!
http://www.pokemybirthday.com/date_2_november_1965.htm

And look what I found:

Samuel Le Bihan, a french actor was born too on that same day in the chinese year of the snake (which is what I believe 2013 is but please verify!):

Samuel Le Bihan was born at 3:30 AM in Avranches, France.

Love, Light, Trails...

Rohiniranjan

[Rohiniranjan]

de la déesse qu'est-ce que j'ai commencé? MON DIEU!

Can someone calculate the lagnas of these two actors that seem to have caught our attention and landed from nowhere on our plate?

Thanks!

Rohiniranjan

[RishiRahul]

There was a question from an individual who is an actor, recently somewhere -- probably reading forum. Surely, significant stars must have some combination etc or planetary arrangement that marks their ingress into earthly reality.

What was so special on 2 Nov 1965 when a Star-to-be was born in Mumbai!

This is NOT a quiz but hopefully a thought-starter...!

Rohiniranjan

Dada,

The atmakarak Mars is strong in own house conjunct the nodes, mercury, aspected by Saturn.

Such charts would have an early life issues of limited parental finances, & also financial issues to deal with .

Rishi

Without knowing that it was Shahrukh Khan's birthdate (not birthtime); the atmakarak was seen strong & well involved with other planets.

Financial issues were seen with numerology meanings with financial difficult/restricted early life.

The native turned out a Superstar, Sharukh Khan.

Finances has had a major play in life with a lot of 'Philanthropy' too.
Showing a strong interplay of finances (due to the lack of it/abundance).
Rishi= The lack of or abundance confirmed by venus Jupiter mutual aspect...abundance.

Shahrukh Khan is famous/very well known.
Let us see his Sun without the birthtime.

On 2 Nov Sun is debilitated; also bad/afflicted in navamsa depending on the birthtime in navamsa.
This LOGIC goes to say that Jyotish or his birthdate is wrong/incorrect.
(one must remember that birthtime is not considered here)

Which is true?!!

If the Sun planetis down, such should be seen in the palm too; The sun line is nearly absent; though the mount is strong.

The numbers say he is actually is very homely & has 'hermit' like basic nature.

Now coming to Shahrukh Khan; its obvious that his nature shows a strong mercury, as his hand does so brilliantly.

His birth planetary positions reveal that it is with atmakarak Mars; also exalted or well aspected in navamsa (depending on the birthtime on the date).
The king of the chart is Mars (atmakarak/basic nature) is with mercury & Ketu.
Rishi= This means mercury & Ketu are highlighted; mercury that he is known for (a child dancing & mimicking) et also his basic childhood nature; and Ketu spirituality that he attains as he gains in age.

His nature reveals a strong/active mercury & a hermit like nature basic nature, more prominent in later life...His life path being 7.

Retro Jupiter in mercury's sign Mithun also accentuates mercury.
Rishi= Wisdom influencing intelligence


The numerological issue/importance in finance when seen astrologically= the dhanakarak Jupiter is samasaptak with Venus & aspect Mars.

Rishi

What is perplexing is the situation of Sun planet, for a Famous person.
In the palm the Sun mount is strong, but not the Sun line.
For a star such as this, the Sun is expercted to be strong as a line too, unless he lacks satisfaction as Mark Twain did.
Hermit natures are generally exclusive loners.

Even taking the birth time as 2.30 a.m. would keep the sun debilitated, though it has well aspected dispositor venus. But since there is no sun line this is in confirmity.
Maybe the fame thing was a burden for him or not actually comfortable with... as we can see stress in his face....
What do the others say about this not strong Sun in the birthchart?

2 more points: Sun is 10th from moon & 11th from Al



Rishi

[Rohiniranjan]

Rishi,

Following your lead I did some snooping too and a few sites seemed to quote the birthtime as 2:30 AM.

The trail is getting warmer, eh Watson!

From the infinite and indefinite, we move an inch closer to the Bolly-Godhead! But it still remains a slippery slope! (pardon my bizarre poetic sense!)

Love, Light, Levity!

Rohiniranjan


[Adding some more stuff to this thread...!]

This is funny and somewhat biological but pretty factual! Unless the reader is too serious (Please close your browser in that case)!!
http://www.pokemybirthday.com/date_2_november_1965.htm

And look what I found:

Samuel Le Bihan, a french actor was born too on that same day in the chinese year of the snake (which is what I believe 2013 is but please verify!):

Samuel Le Bihan was born at 3:30 AM in Avranches, France.

Love, Light, Trails...

Rohiniranjan

I am generally rather wary of birthtimes as given for celebrities and remain so in the current instance too. But what I am struck by is the serendipity! And, if we indeed were on the right path, we now have an interesting situation. We have potentially accurate birthdata of two actors, one in france, another in india, both allegedly born on the same day and only 5.5 hrs apart (after TZ harmonization) and because of their latitudinal difference, born in the same lagna with similar charts to an extent, though finer vargas and timeperiod would be somewhat different.

This reminds me of the time long ago when I similarly chanced upon two charts, one of a serial killer and the other of a very skilled surgeon, born a few days apart so only the moon had changed the sign.

Just as a comment, Rishi, let us not get too hung up on sun being critically essential in getting fame in all cases or areas of fame. Sun generally gives fame of the administrative kind or even political. An actor's fame is another matter. Sun the pitrikaraka and being lagnesha fits in though with the struggles of the father and its consequences on the family and this son in particular. As far as sun as lagnesh is concerned, a successful actor has to be able to efface and submerge his self and personality and become someone. A strong lagnesh reduces that ability and such people tend to be less able to be successful in the chameleonic ability that actors need to possess. In my perspective that fits well too. Now the interesting thing to examine would be if Samuel, who is a true Time-Twin (there used to be project called that, but I digress!) had a similar situation regarding his father and beginnings.

This trail will get only as interesting as the energy we put into it...

Love and Light,

Rohiniranjan

[RishiRahul]

Rishi,

Following your lead I did some snooping too and a few sites seemed to quote the birthtime as 2:30 AM.

The trail is getting warmer, eh Watson!

From the infinite and indefinite, we move an inch closer to the Bolly-Godhead! But it still remains a slippery slope! (pardon my bizarre poetic sense!)

Love, Light, Levity!

Rohiniranjan


[Adding some more stuff to this thread...!]

This is funny and somewhat biological but pretty factual! Unless the reader is too serious (Please close your browser in that case)!!
http://www.pokemybirthday.com/date_2_november_1965.htm

And look what I found:

Samuel Le Bihan, a french actor was born too on that same day in the chinese year of the snake (which is what I believe 2013 is but please verify!):

Samuel Le Bihan was born at 3:30 AM in Avranches, France.

Love, Light, Trails...

Rohiniranjan

I am generally rather wary of birthtimes as given for celebrities and remain so in the current instance too. But what I am struck by is the serendipity! And, if we indeed were on the right path, we now have an interesting situation. We have potentially accurate birthdata of two actors, one in france, another in india, both allegedly born on the same day and only 5.5 hrs apart (after TZ harmonization) and because of their latitudinal difference, born in the same lagna with similar charts to an extent, though finer vargas and timeperiod would be somewhat different.

This reminds me of the time long ago when I similarly chanced upon two charts, one of a serial killer and the other of a very skilled surgeon, born a few days apart so only the moon had changed the sign.

Just as a comment, Rishi, let us not get too hung up on sun being critically essential in getting fame in all cases or areas of fame. Sun generally gives fame of the administrative kind or even political. An actor's fame is another matter. Sun the pitrikaraka and being lagnesha fits in though with the struggles of the father and its consequences on the family and this son in particular. As far as sun as lagnesh is concerned, a successful actor has to be able to efface and submerge his self and personality and become someone. A strong lagnesh reduces that ability and such people tend to be less able to be successful in the chameleonic ability that actors need to possess. In my perspective that fits well too. Now the interesting thing to examine would be if Samuel, who is a true Time-Twin (there used to be project called that, but I digress!) had a similar situation regarding his father and beginnings.

This trail will get only as interesting as the energy we put into it...

Love and Light,

Rohiniranjan

Dada,

Different culture.. same birthdate.

While progressions & digits rule our life mathematically whatever the philosophy is!

I agree with your take on Sun. In any case, since the Sun line does not exist with fair strength, the natal Sun is not wrong, but supported.

Regarding the father & beginings of Shaurukh & Samuel:=
The parents of Samuel came from 'modest means'.... google.

No details of Samuel's father could be got on the net.
Since I am weak in French I did not google further.

On astro analysing, since he was running Mars Vimshottari afflicting the 4th. due to its natural qualities with Ketu around also, his early home life was not savory.

Pitrukarak Sun would say that his father was a strong influence on him; more continuous than strong.



Rishi

[Rohiniranjan]

Rishi,

Following your lead I did some snooping too and a few sites seemed to quote the birthtime as 2:30 AM.

The trail is getting warmer, eh Watson!

From the infinite and indefinite, we move an inch closer to the Bolly-Godhead! But it still remains a slippery slope! (pardon my bizarre poetic sense!)

Love, Light, Levity!

Rohiniranjan


[Adding some more stuff to this thread...!]

This is funny and somewhat biological but pretty factual! Unless the reader is too serious (Please close your browser in that case)!!
http://www.pokemybirthday.com/date_2_november_1965.htm

And look what I found:

Samuel Le Bihan, a french actor was born too on that same day in the chinese year of the snake (which is what I believe 2013 is but please verify!):

Samuel Le Bihan was born at 3:30 AM in Avranches, France.

Love, Light, Trails...

Rohiniranjan

I am generally rather wary of birthtimes as given for celebrities and remain so in the current instance too. But what I am struck by is the serendipity! And, if we indeed were on the right path, we now have an interesting situation. We have potentially accurate birthdata of two actors, one in france, another in india, both allegedly born on the same day and only 5.5 hrs apart (after TZ harmonization) and because of their latitudinal difference, born in the same lagna with similar charts to an extent, though finer vargas and timeperiod would be somewhat different.

This reminds me of the time long ago when I similarly chanced upon two charts, one of a serial killer and the other of a very skilled surgeon, born a few days apart so only the moon had changed the sign.

Just as a comment, Rishi, let us not get too hung up on sun being critically essential in getting fame in all cases or areas of fame. Sun generally gives fame of the administrative kind or even political. An actor's fame is another matter. Sun the pitrikaraka and being lagnesha fits in though with the struggles of the father and its consequences on the family and this son in particular. As far as sun as lagnesh is concerned, a successful actor has to be able to efface and submerge his self and personality and become someone. A strong lagnesh reduces that ability and such people tend to be less able to be successful in the chameleonic ability that actors need to possess. In my perspective that fits well too. Now the interesting thing to examine would be if Samuel, who is a true Time-Twin (there used to be project called that, but I digress!) had a similar situation regarding his father and beginnings.

This trail will get only as interesting as the energy we put into it...

Love and Light,

Rohiniranjan

Dada,

Different culture.. same birthdate.

While progressions & digits rule our life mathematically whatever the philosophy is!

I agree with your take on Sun. In any case, since the Sun line does not exist with fair strength, the natal Sun is not wrong, but supported.

Regarding the father & beginings of Shaurukh & Samuel:=
The parents of Samuel came from 'modest means'.... google.

No details of Samuel's father could be got on the net.
Since I am weak in French I did not google further.

On astro analysing, since he was running Mars Vimshottari afflicting the 4th. due to its natural qualities with Ketu around also, his early home life was not savory.

Pitrukarak Sun would say that his father was a strong influence on him; more continuous than strong.



Rishi

For me these two charts, both crossing my path at this time serendipitously, I take those as representing Redfieldian synchronicity (Celestine Prophecy) and also the synchronicity originally described by Carl Jung whom I hold in great respect as a psychiatrist that broke away from the Freudian Mold or indeed broke the Freudian mold!

In a crude way, I see the same picture in the BV Raman-KN Rao phenomenon that we saw during 80s-90s! Neither Rao nor Jung were really students or disciples of Raman or Freud, respectively. Let us leave it at that! Don't want to attract trouble! I am too old for all that!!

So when One and the next chart appeared, from nowhere, what struck me was that both horoscopes of navitivities born hours apart had the same lagna! See, this has nothing to do with astrology yet, but just astronomy of lagna shodhan. I do not care if the two birthtimes are not accurate or whatever {and both being celebrities one or both might be wrong data}, but the role of latitudes of birth having such a profound influence on lagna sphuta was what is making me grin from ear to ear, with pleasure! I hope you and others are getting my point!

Astrology can wait, but what the moment in time, theirs and mine had to teach and remind me is what I marvel at!

Love, Light, Gratitude!!

Rohiniranjan

[RishiRahul]

Rishi,

Following your lead I did some snooping too and a few sites seemed to quote the birthtime as 2:30 AM.

The trail is getting warmer, eh Watson!

From the infinite and indefinite, we move an inch closer to the Bolly-Godhead! But it still remains a slippery slope! (pardon my bizarre poetic sense!)

Love, Light, Levity!

Rohiniranjan


[Adding some more stuff to this thread...!]

This is funny and somewhat biological but pretty factual! Unless the reader is too serious (Please close your browser in that case)!!
http://www.pokemybirthday.com/date_2_november_1965.htm

And look what I found:

Samuel Le Bihan, a french actor was born too on that same day in the chinese year of the snake (which is what I believe 2013 is but please verify!):

Samuel Le Bihan was born at 3:30 AM in Avranches, France.

Love, Light, Trails...

Rohiniranjan

I am generally rather wary of birthtimes as given for celebrities and remain so in the current instance too. But what I am struck by is the serendipity! And, if we indeed were on the right path, we now have an interesting situation. We have potentially accurate birthdata of two actors, one in france, another in india, both allegedly born on the same day and only 5.5 hrs apart (after TZ harmonization) and because of their latitudinal difference, born in the same lagna with similar charts to an extent, though finer vargas and timeperiod would be somewhat different.

This reminds me of the time long ago when I similarly chanced upon two charts, one of a serial killer and the other of a very skilled surgeon, born a few days apart so only the moon had changed the sign.

Just as a comment, Rishi, let us not get too hung up on sun being critically essential in getting fame in all cases or areas of fame. Sun generally gives fame of the administrative kind or even political. An actor's fame is another matter. Sun the pitrikaraka and being lagnesha fits in though with the struggles of the father and its consequences on the family and this son in particular. As far as sun as lagnesh is concerned, a successful actor has to be able to efface and submerge his self and personality and become someone. A strong lagnesh reduces that ability and such people tend to be less able to be successful in the chameleonic ability that actors need to possess. In my perspective that fits well too. Now the interesting thing to examine would be if Samuel, who is a true Time-Twin (there used to be project called that, but I digress!) had a similar situation regarding his father and beginnings.

This trail will get only as interesting as the energy we put into it...

Love and Light,

Rohiniranjan

Dada,

Different culture.. same birthdate.

While progressions & digits rule our life mathematically whatever the philosophy is!

I agree with your take on Sun. In any case, since the Sun line does not exist with fair strength, the natal Sun is not wrong, but supported.

Regarding the father & beginings of Shaurukh & Samuel:=
The parents of Samuel came from 'modest means'.... google.

No details of Samuel's father could be got on the net.
Since I am weak in French I did not google further.

On astro analysing, since he was running Mars Vimshottari afflicting the 4th. due to its natural qualities with Ketu around also, his early home life was not savory.

Pitrukarak Sun would say that his father was a strong influence on him; more continuous than strong.



Rishi

For me these two charts, both crossing my path at this time serendipitously, I take those as representing Redfieldian synchronicity (Celestine Prophecy) and also the synchronicity originally described by Carl Jung whom I hold in great respect as a psychiatrist that broke away from the Freudian Mold or indeed broke the Freudian mold!

In a crude way, I see the same picture in the BV Raman-KN Rao phenomenon that we saw during 80s-90s! Neither Rao nor Jung were really students or disciples of Raman or Freud, respectively. Let us leave it at that! Don't want to attract trouble! I am too old for all that!!

So when One and the next chart appeared, from nowhere, what struck me was that both horoscopes of navitivities born hours apart had the same lagna! See, this has nothing to do with astrology yet, but just astronomy of lagna shodhan. I do not care if the two birthtimes are not accurate or whatever {and both being celebrities one or both might be wrong data}, but the role of latitudes of birth having such a profound influence on lagna sphuta was what is making me grin from ear to ear, with pleasure! I hope you and others are getting my point!

Astrology can wait, but what the moment in time, theirs and mine had to teach and remind me is what I marvel at!

Love, Light, Gratitude!!

Rohiniranjan

Yes, I also noticed the lagnas being the same.

2 matives born on same date, month & year in different lattitudes; & both are celebrities with so many similar flavours!!

Rishi

[Rohiniranjan]

Rishi,

Following your lead I did some snooping too and a few sites seemed to quote the birthtime as 2:30 AM.

The trail is getting warmer, eh Watson!

From the infinite and indefinite, we move an inch closer to the Bolly-Godhead! But it still remains a slippery slope! (pardon my bizarre poetic sense!)

Love, Light, Levity!

Rohiniranjan


[Adding some more stuff to this thread...!]

This is funny and somewhat biological but pretty factual! Unless the reader is too serious (Please close your browser in that case)!!
http://www.pokemybirthday.com/date_2_november_1965.htm

And look what I found:

Samuel Le Bihan, a french actor was born too on that same day in the chinese year of the snake (which is what I believe 2013 is but please verify!):

Samuel Le Bihan was born at 3:30 AM in Avranches, France.

Love, Light, Trails...

Rohiniranjan

I am generally rather wary of birthtimes as given for celebrities and remain so in the current instance too. But what I am struck by is the serendipity! And, if we indeed were on the right path, we now have an interesting situation. We have potentially accurate birthdata of two actors, one in france, another in india, both allegedly born on the same day and only 5.5 hrs apart (after TZ harmonization) and because of their latitudinal difference, born in the same lagna with similar charts to an extent, though finer vargas and timeperiod would be somewhat different.

This reminds me of the time long ago when I similarly chanced upon two charts, one of a serial killer and the other of a very skilled surgeon, born a few days apart so only the moon had changed the sign.

Just as a comment, Rishi, let us not get too hung up on sun being critically essential in getting fame in all cases or areas of fame. Sun generally gives fame of the administrative kind or even political. An actor's fame is another matter. Sun the pitrikaraka and being lagnesha fits in though with the struggles of the father and its consequences on the family and this son in particular. As far as sun as lagnesh is concerned, a successful actor has to be able to efface and submerge his self and personality and become someone. A strong lagnesh reduces that ability and such people tend to be less able to be successful in the chameleonic ability that actors need to possess. In my perspective that fits well too. Now the interesting thing to examine would be if Samuel, who is a true Time-Twin (there used to be project called that, but I digress!) had a similar situation regarding his father and beginnings.

This trail will get only as interesting as the energy we put into it...

Love and Light,

Rohiniranjan

Dada,

Different culture.. same birthdate.

While progressions & digits rule our life mathematically whatever the philosophy is!

I agree with your take on Sun. In any case, since the Sun line does not exist with fair strength, the natal Sun is not wrong, but supported.

Regarding the father & beginings of Shaurukh & Samuel:=
The parents of Samuel came from 'modest means'.... google.

No details of Samuel's father could be got on the net.
Since I am weak in French I did not google further.

On astro analysing, since he was running Mars Vimshottari afflicting the 4th. due to its natural qualities with Ketu around also, his early home life was not savory.

Pitrukarak Sun would say that his father was a strong influence on him; more continuous than strong.



Rishi

For me these two charts, both crossing my path at this time serendipitously, I take those as representing Redfieldian synchronicity (Celestine Prophecy) and also the synchronicity originally described by Carl Jung whom I hold in great respect as a psychiatrist that broke away from the Freudian Mold or indeed broke the Freudian mold!

In a crude way, I see the same picture in the BV Raman-KN Rao phenomenon that we saw during 80s-90s! Neither Rao nor Jung were really students or disciples of Raman or Freud, respectively. Let us leave it at that! Don't want to attract trouble! I am too old for all that!!

So when One and the next chart appeared, from nowhere, what struck me was that both horoscopes of navitivities born hours apart had the same lagna! See, this has nothing to do with astrology yet, but just astronomy of lagna shodhan. I do not care if the two birthtimes are not accurate or whatever {and both being celebrities one or both might be wrong data}, but the role of latitudes of birth having such a profound influence on lagna sphuta was what is making me grin from ear to ear, with pleasure! I hope you and others are getting my point!

Astrology can wait, but what the moment in time, theirs and mine had to teach and remind me is what I marvel at!

Love, Light, Gratitude!!

Rohiniranjan

Yes, I also noticed the lagnas being the same.

2 matives born on same date, month & year in different lattitudes; & both are celebrities with so many similar flavours!!

Rishi

MA's Grace is aparampaar (infinite)!


Love and Light!

Rohiniranjan