Kendradhipati dosha
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Kendradhipati dosha
Kendradhipati dosha or the negative effect of the ownership of
quadrants by benefics implies reduction in their beneficence. The
benefic owner of a quadrant is still a benefic and does not become a
malefic. Similarly, a malefic planet owning a quadrant will not remain a malefic and that does not imply that the malefic becomes a benefic.
"1st, 4th, 7th and 10th houses are called the Kendras. Kendras are like
the doors to our life. Imagine a kind-hearted watchman sitting on a
door. Any bad entity can easily fool a kind-hearted watchman and get
access through the door.
This loss of beneficence of a benefic lord of quadrant is called
Kendradhipati dosha. This flaw is annulled if the planet is also well
placed in a quadrant or trine. Similarly, a malefic planet owning a
quadrant sheds its malfeasance and will give very good results if placed in an evil house.
If instead, the planet is placed in a quadrant or trine, the loss of malfeasance may not occur fully.
This is the basis of Kendradhipati Dosha. Now people with Budha and
Jupiter as the Kendradhipatis have this kind of Kendradhipati Dosha. I
mean Mithun Lagna, Kanya Lagna, Dhanu Lagna and Meena Lagna.
Now don't get bogged down by the word “Dosha”. Its nothing that fatal.
The general trend that I have seen with such people is that they are
mostly taken advantage of by others. Presence of malefic planets in
Kendras reduces this inherent goodness and the gullible nature.
Other Lagnas will have atleast 2-3 Kroor Grahas as the lords of Kendras.
These Kroor Grahas acts as good watchmans of the doors to our life
quadrants by benefics implies reduction in their beneficence. The
benefic owner of a quadrant is still a benefic and does not become a
malefic. Similarly, a malefic planet owning a quadrant will not remain a malefic and that does not imply that the malefic becomes a benefic.
"1st, 4th, 7th and 10th houses are called the Kendras. Kendras are like
the doors to our life. Imagine a kind-hearted watchman sitting on a
door. Any bad entity can easily fool a kind-hearted watchman and get
access through the door.
This loss of beneficence of a benefic lord of quadrant is called
Kendradhipati dosha. This flaw is annulled if the planet is also well
placed in a quadrant or trine. Similarly, a malefic planet owning a
quadrant sheds its malfeasance and will give very good results if placed in an evil house.
If instead, the planet is placed in a quadrant or trine, the loss of malfeasance may not occur fully.
This is the basis of Kendradhipati Dosha. Now people with Budha and
Jupiter as the Kendradhipatis have this kind of Kendradhipati Dosha. I
mean Mithun Lagna, Kanya Lagna, Dhanu Lagna and Meena Lagna.
Now don't get bogged down by the word “Dosha”. Its nothing that fatal.
The general trend that I have seen with such people is that they are
mostly taken advantage of by others. Presence of malefic planets in
Kendras reduces this inherent goodness and the gullible nature.
Other Lagnas will have atleast 2-3 Kroor Grahas as the lords of Kendras.
These Kroor Grahas acts as good watchmans of the doors to our life
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Thanks sandhu.jp!
How about this situation, in Kanya Lagna Jupiter is in 1/4/7/10, Jupiter is Kendradhipati Dosha for kanya lagna, as well as it is Badaka planet?
If we expand this case into Jupiter is in 6/8/12 nakarashta and also it is 22nd/64th planet?
So what do you think overall outcomes?
Pls, enlighten this situation...
How about this situation, in Kanya Lagna Jupiter is in 1/4/7/10, Jupiter is Kendradhipati Dosha for kanya lagna, as well as it is Badaka planet?
If we expand this case into Jupiter is in 6/8/12 nakarashta and also it is 22nd/64th planet?
So what do you think overall outcomes?
Pls, enlighten this situation...
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Brahma Mihira wrote:Thanks sandhu.jp!
How about this situation, in Kanya Lagna Jupiter is in 1/4/7/10, Jupiter is Kendradhipati Dosha for kanya lagna, as well as it is Badaka planet?
If we expand this case into Jupiter is in 6/8/12 nakarashta and also it is 22nd/64th planet?
So what do you think overall outcomes?
Pls, enlighten this situation...
If I may, perhaps, there are certain COMMON but different lines that should be drawn between Kendradhipati dosha and Badhaka sthan doshas! The former is akin to a good company run by a CEO that is good-hearted but ineffectual in progressing most good companies if trying to goad the bottom-lines elsewhere, whereas, in badhaka sthana dosha, the CEO is not bad or ineffective, but the COMPANY/SECTOR is..., for other investors!
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Rohiniranjan wrote:Brahma Mihira wrote:Thanks sandhu.jp!
How about this situation, in Kanya Lagna Jupiter is in 1/4/7/10, Jupiter is Kendradhipati Dosha for kanya lagna, as well as it is Badaka planet?
If we expand this case into Jupiter is in 6/8/12 nakarashta and also it is 22nd/64th planet?
So what do you think overall outcomes?
Pls, enlighten this situation...
If I may, perhaps, there are certain COMMON but different lines that should be drawn between Kendradhipati dosha and Badhaka sthan doshas! The former is akin to a good company run by a CEO that is good-hearted but ineffectual in progressing most good companies if trying to goad the bottom-lines elsewhere, whereas, in badhaka sthana dosha, the CEO is not bad or ineffective, but the COMPANY/SECTOR is..., for other investors!
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Very nice explanation, Dada.
I wonder what it would be like during the dasa of a kendradhipathi + badhakadhipati??
Oh! I guess the native is doomed during the dasa....!
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No Rishi, it still depends on what we invested (speculated?)-in or when or where...?RishiRahul wrote:Rohiniranjan wrote:Brahma Mihira wrote:Thanks sandhu.jp!
How about this situation, in Kanya Lagna Jupiter is in 1/4/7/10, Jupiter is Kendradhipati Dosha for kanya lagna, as well as it is Badaka planet?
If we expand this case into Jupiter is in 6/8/12 nakarashta and also it is 22nd/64th planet?
So what do you think overall outcomes?
Pls, enlighten this situation...
If I may, perhaps, there are certain COMMON but different lines that should be drawn between Kendradhipati dosha and Badhaka sthan doshas! The former is akin to a good company run by a CEO that is good-hearted but ineffectual in progressing most good companies if trying to goad the bottom-lines elsewhere, whereas, in badhaka sthana dosha, the CEO is not bad or ineffective, but the COMPANY/SECTOR is..., for other investors!
Love and Light,
Rohiniranjan
Very nice explanation, Dada.
I wonder what it would be like during the dasa of a kendradhipathi + badhakadhipati??
Oh! I guess the native is doomed during the dasa....!
Rishi
THAT is where our beloved *astrologic* helps, MA willing...!
Love and light,
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Rohiniranjan wrote:No Rishi, it still depends on what we invested (speculated?)-in or when or where...?RishiRahul wrote:Rohiniranjan wrote:Brahma Mihira wrote:Thanks sandhu.jp!
How about this situation, in Kanya Lagna Jupiter is in 1/4/7/10, Jupiter is Kendradhipati Dosha for kanya lagna, as well as it is Badaka planet?
If we expand this case into Jupiter is in 6/8/12 nakarashta and also it is 22nd/64th planet?
So what do you think overall outcomes?
Pls, enlighten this situation...
If I may, perhaps, there are certain COMMON but different lines that should be drawn between Kendradhipati dosha and Badhaka sthan doshas! The former is akin to a good company run by a CEO that is good-hearted but ineffectual in progressing most good companies if trying to goad the bottom-lines elsewhere, whereas, in badhaka sthana dosha, the CEO is not bad or ineffective, but the COMPANY/SECTOR is..., for other investors!
Love and Light,
Rohiniranjan
Very nice explanation, Dada.
I wonder what it would be like during the dasa of a kendradhipathi + badhakadhipati??
Oh! I guess the native is doomed during the dasa....!
Rishi
THAT is where our beloved *astrologic* helps, MA willing...!
Love and light,
Rohiniranjan
I hope ma is willing
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If *rules* and considerations in isolation were enough, astrological analyses would have become the forte of computer software, by now Astrologers realize that very early in their journey!RishiRahul wrote:Rohiniranjan wrote:No Rishi, it still depends on what we invested (speculated?)-in or when or where...?RishiRahul wrote:Rohiniranjan wrote:Brahma Mihira wrote:Thanks sandhu.jp!
How about this situation, in Kanya Lagna Jupiter is in 1/4/7/10, Jupiter is Kendradhipati Dosha for kanya lagna, as well as it is Badaka planet?
If we expand this case into Jupiter is in 6/8/12 nakarashta and also it is 22nd/64th planet?
So what do you think overall outcomes?
Pls, enlighten this situation...
If I may, perhaps, there are certain COMMON but different lines that should be drawn between Kendradhipati dosha and Badhaka sthan doshas! The former is akin to a good company run by a CEO that is good-hearted but ineffectual in progressing most good companies if trying to goad the bottom-lines elsewhere, whereas, in badhaka sthana dosha, the CEO is not bad or ineffective, but the COMPANY/SECTOR is..., for other investors!
Love and Light,
Rohiniranjan
Very nice explanation, Dada.
I wonder what it would be like during the dasa of a kendradhipathi + badhakadhipati??
Oh! I guess the native is doomed during the dasa....!
Rishi
THAT is where our beloved *astrologic* helps, MA willing...!
Love and light,
Rohiniranjan
I hope ma is willing
Rishi
Regards,
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Dada,Rohiniranjan wrote:If *rules* and considerations in isolation were enough, astrological analyses would have become the forte of computer software, by now Astrologers realize that very early in their journey!RishiRahul wrote:Rohiniranjan wrote:No Rishi, it still depends on what we invested (speculated?)-in or when or where...?RishiRahul wrote:Rohiniranjan wrote:Brahma Mihira wrote:Thanks sandhu.jp!
How about this situation, in Kanya Lagna Jupiter is in 1/4/7/10, Jupiter is Kendradhipati Dosha for kanya lagna, as well as it is Badaka planet?
If we expand this case into Jupiter is in 6/8/12 nakarashta and also it is 22nd/64th planet?
So what do you think overall outcomes?
Pls, enlighten this situation...
If I may, perhaps, there are certain COMMON but different lines that should be drawn between Kendradhipati dosha and Badhaka sthan doshas! The former is akin to a good company run by a CEO that is good-hearted but ineffectual in progressing most good companies if trying to goad the bottom-lines elsewhere, whereas, in badhaka sthana dosha, the CEO is not bad or ineffective, but the COMPANY/SECTOR is..., for other investors!
Love and Light,
Rohiniranjan
Very nice explanation, Dada.
I wonder what it would be like during the dasa of a kendradhipathi + badhakadhipati??
Oh! I guess the native is doomed during the dasa....!
Rishi
THAT is where our beloved *astrologic* helps, MA willing...!
Love and light,
Rohiniranjan
I hope ma is willing
Rishi
Regards,
Rohiniranjan
Yes, I know that. But I was thinking you would share some more on this.
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What would be the point, Rishi? I just read that with the help of software, one can become a proficient jyotishi in about an hour and can completely read four charts within one hour! All the slow and linear one rule at a time methods of learning which you and I and many others followed were a big waste of time!RishiRahul wrote:Dada,Rohiniranjan wrote:If *rules* and considerations in isolation were enough, astrological analyses would have become the forte of computer software, by now Astrologers realize that very early in their journey!RishiRahul wrote:Rohiniranjan wrote:No Rishi, it still depends on what we invested (speculated?)-in or when or where...?RishiRahul wrote:Rohiniranjan wrote:Brahma Mihira wrote:Thanks sandhu.jp!
How about this situation, in Kanya Lagna Jupiter is in 1/4/7/10, Jupiter is Kendradhipati Dosha for kanya lagna, as well as it is Badaka planet?
If we expand this case into Jupiter is in 6/8/12 nakarashta and also it is 22nd/64th planet?
So what do you think overall outcomes?
Pls, enlighten this situation...
If I may, perhaps, there are certain COMMON but different lines that should be drawn between Kendradhipati dosha and Badhaka sthan doshas! The former is akin to a good company run by a CEO that is good-hearted but ineffectual in progressing most good companies if trying to goad the bottom-lines elsewhere, whereas, in badhaka sthana dosha, the CEO is not bad or ineffective, but the COMPANY/SECTOR is..., for other investors!
Love and Light,
Rohiniranjan
Very nice explanation, Dada.
I wonder what it would be like during the dasa of a kendradhipathi + badhakadhipati??
Oh! I guess the native is doomed during the dasa....!
Rishi
THAT is where our beloved *astrologic* helps, MA willing...!
Love and light,
Rohiniranjan
I hope ma is willing
Rishi
Regards,
Rohiniranjan
Yes, I know that. But I was thinking you would share some more on this.
Rishi
Hail KALI YUGA! The world as we know it is no more! Probably this is what MAYAn prophecy was all about. Probably travelling on foot, hence delayed by seven months! :smt020
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Rishi,
Don't get me wrong. I often express my reservations about rule-by-rule analysis of charts when formulating a reading for divination etc., but that does not mean that I am advocating to anyone to throw the rules out by the window. That would be problematical for most of us worldly-type astros since we are not intuitive enough to be able to reliably or reproducibly use that factor-X as some call it and a few glibly claim to be in possession of
When we are learning pretty much anything, the only approach available is to absorb the rules, one by one, without short-cuts. Once we do manage to do so, we are at a similar stage as a predictive software which generates report using that very rule by rule approach and dare I say that the software probably has a more extensive repertoire of rules available in its static memory, and in this look-up table and regurgitate approach is probably way faster than most human beings. If the software then were able to add weighting factors such as strengths at the very minimum and also include ashtakavarga considerations and modifiers such as rashmis, ishta-kashta and guna-tattwa-sambandha and argala considerations etc, then the software would definitely become more complete and considerably more intelligent than is the case currently. If it can also integrate the timing (dasas, transits etc) factor and relevance analysis (are the yogas etc mere promissory notes or cash in the wallet?) -- and mathematically or from programming point of view readily possible (with some effort and computing prowess being under the belt). But notice that in doing so, the process has moved far away from considerations of the singlet-factors. And if it is capable of learning and modifying its analytical-synthetical process (like an 'expert' system design as cyber scientists call such) it could probably arrive close to or even beyond what many astrologers manage to do, perhaps in a less or erratic manner and in a shorter time than a computer! ADB software (based on access dbms) had some features that could accomplish few of these (notably weighting!) but with a different objective behind its programming. Searching, researching and statistical analysis as opposed to generating a reading, but the process-flow is roughly similar or at least syndirectional.
Seemingly paradoxical *rules* such as VRY, kendradhipati dosh and the three boogey-men: Mangal dosh, KSY and sade sati pique the curiosity and fear in many and likewise combustion! It is almost futile to spend too much cathexis on these. Like a drop of water falling on a heated frying pan, the message gets lost even before it can be received! Hence I said, "What would be the point?" When thirst arises, we shall seek and find the well, generally within!
Love and Light,
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Don't get me wrong. I often express my reservations about rule-by-rule analysis of charts when formulating a reading for divination etc., but that does not mean that I am advocating to anyone to throw the rules out by the window. That would be problematical for most of us worldly-type astros since we are not intuitive enough to be able to reliably or reproducibly use that factor-X as some call it and a few glibly claim to be in possession of
When we are learning pretty much anything, the only approach available is to absorb the rules, one by one, without short-cuts. Once we do manage to do so, we are at a similar stage as a predictive software which generates report using that very rule by rule approach and dare I say that the software probably has a more extensive repertoire of rules available in its static memory, and in this look-up table and regurgitate approach is probably way faster than most human beings. If the software then were able to add weighting factors such as strengths at the very minimum and also include ashtakavarga considerations and modifiers such as rashmis, ishta-kashta and guna-tattwa-sambandha and argala considerations etc, then the software would definitely become more complete and considerably more intelligent than is the case currently. If it can also integrate the timing (dasas, transits etc) factor and relevance analysis (are the yogas etc mere promissory notes or cash in the wallet?) -- and mathematically or from programming point of view readily possible (with some effort and computing prowess being under the belt). But notice that in doing so, the process has moved far away from considerations of the singlet-factors. And if it is capable of learning and modifying its analytical-synthetical process (like an 'expert' system design as cyber scientists call such) it could probably arrive close to or even beyond what many astrologers manage to do, perhaps in a less or erratic manner and in a shorter time than a computer! ADB software (based on access dbms) had some features that could accomplish few of these (notably weighting!) but with a different objective behind its programming. Searching, researching and statistical analysis as opposed to generating a reading, but the process-flow is roughly similar or at least syndirectional.
Seemingly paradoxical *rules* such as VRY, kendradhipati dosh and the three boogey-men: Mangal dosh, KSY and sade sati pique the curiosity and fear in many and likewise combustion! It is almost futile to spend too much cathexis on these. Like a drop of water falling on a heated frying pan, the message gets lost even before it can be received! Hence I said, "What would be the point?" When thirst arises, we shall seek and find the well, generally within!
Love and Light,
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Dada,Rohiniranjan wrote:
What would be the point, Rishi? I just read that with the help of software, one can become a proficient jyotishi in about an hour and can completely read four charts within one hour! All the slow and linear one rule at a time methods of learning which you and I and many others followed were a big waste of time!
Hail KALI YUGA! The world as we know it is no more! Probably this is what MAYAn prophecy was all about. Probably travelling on foot, hence delayed by seven months! :smt020
Love and Light!
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"Sofwares and learn astrology/palmistry in 1 day/10 days" is a gimmick & good marketing.
As the serious followers of such divinations are aware that true learning/application is way beyond all these.
No doubt softwares are necessary for casting the 'mathematical' part quickly & accurately. And also can make it easier to follow rules by rule
Then again most softwares are not accurate....
No, I haven't got you wrong at all. In fact I also do not follow rule by rule analysis as a rule.
You are very much correct in whatever you wrote in the below quote
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Rohiniranjan wrote:Rishi,
Don't get me wrong. I often express my reservations about rule-by-rule analysis of charts when formulating a reading for divination etc., but that does not mean that I am advocating to anyone to throw the rules out by the window. That would be problematical for most of us worldly-type astros since we are not intuitive enough to be able to reliably or reproducibly use that factor-X as some call it and a few glibly claim to be in possession of
When we are learning pretty much anything, the only approach available is to absorb the rules, one by one, without short-cuts. Once we do manage to do so, we are at a similar stage as a predictive software which generates report using that very rule by rule approach and dare I say that the software probably has a more extensive repertoire of rules available in its static memory, and in this look-up table and regurgitate approach is probably way faster than most human beings. If the software then were able to add weighting factors such as strengths at the very minimum and also include ashtakavarga considerations and modifiers such as rashmis, ishta-kashta and guna-tattwa-sambandha and argala considerations etc, then the software would definitely become more complete and considerably more intelligent than is the case currently. If it can also integrate the timing (dasas, transits etc) factor and relevance analysis (are the yogas etc mere promissory notes or cash in the wallet?) -- and mathematically or from programming point of view readily possible (with some effort and computing prowess being under the belt). But notice that in doing so, the process has moved far away from considerations of the singlet-factors. And if it is capable of learning and modifying its analytical-synthetical process (like an 'expert' system design as cyber scientists call such) it could probably arrive close to or even beyond what many astrologers manage to do, perhaps in a less or erratic manner and in a shorter time than a computer! ADB software (based on access dbms) had some features that could accomplish few of these (notably weighting!) but with a different objective behind its programming. Searching, researching and statistical analysis as opposed to generating a reading, but the process-flow is roughly similar or at least syndirectional.
Seemingly paradoxical *rules* such as VRY, kendradhipati dosh and the three boogey-men: Mangal dosh, KSY and sade sati pique the curiosity and fear in many and likewise combustion! It is almost futile to spend too much cathexis on these. Like a drop of water falling on a heated frying pan, the message gets lost even before it can be received! Hence I said, "What would be the point?" When thirst arises, we shall seek and find the well, generally within!
Love and Light,
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Let us take the case of a birthtime quite well known to me:
15 June 1969 at 5.13 a.m. in calcutta.
The native ran Jupiter vimshottari dasa from 1990 to 2006.
Jupiter is having kendradhipati dosha & is badhakadhipati also.
He migrated away from his home country towards the end of Rahu dasa.
His best (most comfortable) period in life has been at this time.
Of course, he is having more challenges.. very difficult personal challenges.. during sani dasa (but that is the flavour of sani dasa conjunct venus).
Yes, the native was very carefree at that time.
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15 June 1969 at 5.13 a.m. in calcutta.
The native ran Jupiter vimshottari dasa from 1990 to 2006.
Jupiter is having kendradhipati dosha & is badhakadhipati also.
He migrated away from his home country towards the end of Rahu dasa.
His best (most comfortable) period in life has been at this time.
Of course, he is having more challenges.. very difficult personal challenges.. during sani dasa (but that is the flavour of sani dasa conjunct venus).
Yes, the native was very carefree at that time.
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Did he get married in the 30th year? 34th/35th year significant in relation to career??RishiRahul wrote:Let us take the case of a birthtime quite well known to me:
15 June 1969 at 5.13 a.m. in calcutta.
The native ran Jupiter vimshottari dasa from 1990 to 2006.
Jupiter is having kendradhipati dosha & is badhakadhipati also.
He migrated away from his home country towards the end of Rahu dasa.
His best (most comfortable) period in life has been at this time.
Of course, he is having more challenges.. very difficult personal challenges.. during sani dasa (but that is the flavour of sani dasa conjunct venus).
Yes, the native was very carefree at that time.
Rishi
Mars in 6th (sco) usually positive in terms of victory over enemies, adversities but retrogression could have led to ill-health, blood loss, surgery etc.
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May I ask if this native is now back to his homeland. My interpretation says that he is and also is NOT doing well financially right now or may have debts/ legal cases r disease or terrible job.RishiRahul wrote:Let us take the case of a birthtime quite well known to me:
15 June 1969 at 5.13 a.m. in calcutta.
The native ran Jupiter vimshottari dasa from 1990 to 2006.
Jupiter is having kendradhipati dosha & is badhakadhipati also.
He migrated away from his home country towards the end of Rahu dasa.
His best (most comfortable) period in life has been at this time.
Of course, he is having more challenges.. very difficult personal challenges.. during sani dasa (but that is the flavour of sani dasa conjunct venus).
Yes, the native was very carefree at that time.
Rishi
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