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Death of wife some astrological combinations.

Post by sandhu.jp » Wed Nov 27, 2013 4:03 am

Death suicide or murder of wife ( some combinations from sarvarath chintamani).

Lf the lord of the 5th house is located in the 7th, and the lord of the 7th house is with a malefic and Venus is weak. the wife of the native dies as a result of (loss etc of) pregnancy. (1 I)

If the 7th house is occupied by Venus in its sign of debily it or if Moon is in its sign of debilitation in the 7th house the wife dies by drowning. If the lord of the 7th house is located in the decante going by the name Paasha &  Bhujung  (Rope & serpent) the wife dies by hanging. ( 12)


If the lord of the the 7thh house is with Rahu and Mandi and is in decante going by the  of Bhujanga i.e. serpent the wife dies by taking poison.
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Post by Rohiniranjan » Thu Nov 28, 2013 1:34 am

sandhu.jp wrote:Death suicide or murder of wife ( some combinations from sarvarath chintamani).

Lf the lord of the 5th house is located in the 7th, and the lord of the 7th house is with a malefic and Venus is weak. the wife of the native dies as a result of (loss etc of) pregnancy. (1 I)

If the 7th house is occupied by Venus in its sign of debily it or if Moon is in its sign of debilitation in the 7th house the wife dies by drowning. If the lord of the 7th house is located in the decante going by the name Paasha &  Bhujung  (Rope & serpent) the wife dies by hanging. ( 12)


If the lord of the the 7thh house is with Rahu and Mandi and is in decante going by the  of Bhujanga i.e. serpent the wife dies by taking poison.

Thanks Sandhu ji! What an amazing parallel coincidence! A student of Suresh Babu ji (Kerala) posted recently that if there is an exchange between lord of fifth and seventh, although trikona and kendra is involved (good yoga as per jyotish cannonicals (scriptures), it is pretty bad for marriage and children matters, etc! I wonder if darakaraka (Parashara writes about that and also Jaimini who a vedic scholar recently wrote was the disciple of Veda Vyasa who was son of Rishi Parashara (Matsyagandha allegory!), also gets involved, that must be a sure recipe for dis-ASTER!

You share such thought-provoking posts! Thank you for your research and sharings!!

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Post by Brahma Mihira » Thu Nov 28, 2013 11:10 am

I also found out in many charts exchanged house lords, most of the time don't give positive results as preached, one reason is lord linking with 6/8/12 or 3/11.  Should not consider as parivarthana yoga always gives positive.
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Post by Rohiniranjan » Thu Nov 28, 2013 7:18 pm

Brahma Mihira wrote:I also found out in many charts exchanged house lords, most of the time don't give positive results as preached, one reason is lord linking with 6/8/12 or 3/11.  Should not consider as parivarthana yoga always gives positive.

The combination/posting I mentioned from an astrologer is from the Kerala System/approach of astrology. They have unique methodology in comparison to the mainstream (Parashari-Jaimini systems). If interested, please browse through Deva Keralam, aka Chandra Kala Nadi. It is not the complete system (much of which is not publicly available) and Santhanam's 3 volume translation, notes on Deva Keralam is quite an interesting read and educational, gives a lot of hints about the use of finer vargas etc.

As to parivartana or for that matter any specific rider or tenet in my experience, there is no *always*. For the simple reason that astrology works in a multi-factorial manner. Each parivartan or any other yoga, even mahapurusha yoga needs to be sifted and weighed and then interpreted.

I hope this addresses Rishi Rahul's cryptic *?* too ;-)

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Post by RishiRahul » Thu Nov 28, 2013 7:37 pm

Rohiniranjan wrote:
Brahma Mihira wrote:I also found out in many charts exchanged house lords, most of the time don't give positive results as preached, one reason is lord linking with 6/8/12 or 3/11.  Should not consider as parivarthana yoga always gives positive.

The combination/posting I mentioned from an astrologer is from the Kerala System/approach of astrology. They have unique methodology in comparison to the mainstream (Parashari-Jaimini systems). If interested, please browse through Deva Keralam, aka Chandra Kala Nadi. It is not the complete system (much of which is not publicly available) and Santhanam's 3 volume translation, notes on Deva Keralam is quite an interesting read and educational, gives a lot of hints about the use of finer vargas etc.

As to parivartana or for that matter any specific rider or tenet in my experience, there is no *always*. For the simple reason that astrology works in a multi-factorial manner. Each parivartan or any other yoga, even mahapurusha yoga needs to be sifted and weighed and then interpreted.

I hope this addresses Rishi Rahul's cryptic *?* too ;-)

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Dear Dada,

Thanks for the explanation.  :)
Anyways, its great to see Brahma Mihira taking part in discussions :smt020


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Post by Rohiniranjan » Fri Nov 29, 2013 4:06 am

RishiRahul wrote:
Rohiniranjan wrote:
Brahma Mihira wrote:I also found out in many charts exchanged house lords, most of the time don't give positive results as preached, one reason is lord linking with 6/8/12 or 3/11.  Should not consider as parivarthana yoga always gives positive.

The combination/posting I mentioned from an astrologer is from the Kerala System/approach of astrology. They have unique methodology in comparison to the mainstream (Parashari-Jaimini systems). If interested, please browse through Deva Keralam, aka Chandra Kala Nadi. It is not the complete system (much of which is not publicly available) and Santhanam's 3 volume translation, notes on Deva Keralam is quite an interesting read and educational, gives a lot of hints about the use of finer vargas etc.

As to parivartana or for that matter any specific rider or tenet in my experience, there is no *always*. For the simple reason that astrology works in a multi-factorial manner. Each parivartan or any other yoga, even mahapurusha yoga needs to be sifted and weighed and then interpreted.

I hope this addresses Rishi Rahul's cryptic *?* too ;-)

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Dear Dada,

Thanks for the explanation.  :)
Anyways, its great to see Brahma Mihira taking part in discussions :smt020


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Post by Brahma Mihira » Fri Nov 29, 2013 5:39 am

As this topic, I had seen with my experiments, too much power gathered in 5th house, gives negative effects on marriage, love and children. But education side becomes successful such as receiving foreign scholarships.
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Post by RishiRahul » Fri Nov 29, 2013 5:43 am

Brahma Mihira wrote:As this topic, I had seen with my experiments, too much power gathered in 5th house, gives negative effects on marriage, love and children. But education side becomes successful such as receiving foreign scholarships.
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Post by Brahma Mihira » Fri Nov 29, 2013 5:45 am

Rohiniranjan wrote:
Brahma Mihira wrote:I also found out in many charts exchanged house lords, most of the time don't give positive results as preached, one reason is lord linking with 6/8/12 or 3/11.  Should not consider as parivarthana yoga always gives positive.


As to parivartana or for that matter any specific rider or tenet in my experience, there is no *always*. For the simple reason that astrology works in a multi-factorial manner. Each parivartan or any other yoga, even mahapurusha yoga needs to be sifted and weighed and then interpreted.

I hope this addresses Rishi Rahul's cryptic *?* too ;-)

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Yes, I'm also meaning words sifted and weighed on chart analyzing...
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Post by Rohiniranjan » Fri Nov 29, 2013 1:34 pm

Brahma Mihira wrote:
Rohiniranjan wrote:
Brahma Mihira wrote:I also found out in many charts exchanged house lords, most of the time don't give positive results as preached, one reason is lord linking with 6/8/12 or 3/11.  Should not consider as parivarthana yoga always gives positive.


As to parivartana or for that matter any specific rider or tenet in my experience, there is no *always*. For the simple reason that astrology works in a multi-factorial manner. Each parivartan or any other yoga, even mahapurusha yoga needs to be sifted and weighed and then interpreted.

I hope this addresses Rishi Rahul's cryptic *?* too ;-)

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Yes, I'm also meaning words sifted and weighed on chart analyzing...
This time, I did not get what you actually meant...:-(
Maybe it is Rishi's turn to elaborate and illuminate me, what you were trying to say! You probably sent your response in a hurry :smt010

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Post by Brahma Mihira » Sun Dec 01, 2013 4:06 am

Rohiniranjan wrote:
Brahma Mihira wrote:
Rohiniranjan wrote:
Brahma Mihira wrote:I also found out in many charts exchanged house lords, most of the time don't give positive results as preached, one reason is lord linking with 6/8/12 or 3/11.  Should not consider as parivarthana yoga always gives positive.


As to parivartana or for that matter any specific rider or tenet in my experience, there is no *always*. For the simple reason that astrology works in a multi-factorial manner. Each parivartan or any other yoga, even mahapurusha yoga needs to be sifted and weighed and then interpreted.

I hope this addresses Rishi Rahul's cryptic *?* too ;-)

Love and Light,

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Yes, I'm also meaning words sifted and weighed on chart analyzing...
This time, I did not get what you actually meant...:-(
Maybe it is Rishi's turn to elaborate and illuminate me, what you were trying to say! You probably sent your response in a hurry :smt010

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Not in hurry, I'm meaning when 5th house has powerful planets then as we hoped positive effects, it don't get good results. Such as : 5th house become Meena rashi and then Jupiter and Moon in there on female chart, she don't get babies or she may occur problem with love life. Sometime Jupiter can link with 6th house via nakarashta or it was 22nd planet.

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Post by RishiRahul » Sun Dec 01, 2013 5:38 am

Brahma Mihira wrote:
Rohiniranjan wrote:
Brahma Mihira wrote:
Rohiniranjan wrote:
Brahma Mihira wrote:I also found out in many charts exchanged house lords, most of the time don't give positive results as preached, one reason is lord linking with 6/8/12 or 3/11.  Should not consider as parivarthana yoga always gives positive.


As to parivartana or for that matter any specific rider or tenet in my experience, there is no *always*. For the simple reason that astrology works in a multi-factorial manner. Each parivartan or any other yoga, even mahapurusha yoga needs to be sifted and weighed and then interpreted.

I hope this addresses Rishi Rahul's cryptic *?* too ;-)

Love and Light,

Rohiniranjan


Yes, I'm also meaning words sifted and weighed on chart analyzing...
This time, I did not get what you actually meant...:-(
Maybe it is Rishi's turn to elaborate and illuminate me, what you were trying to say! You probably sent your response in a hurry :smt010

RR


Not in hurry, I'm meaning when 5th house has powerful planets then as we hoped positive effects, it don't get good results. Such as : 5th house become Meena rashi and then Jupiter and Moon in there on female chart, she don't get babies or she may occur problem with love life. Sometime Jupiter can link with 6th house via nakarashta or it was 22nd planet.

:smt017
If the 5th. becomes Meena rasi, then lagna should be vrishchika. Right.

So we have the natural putrakarak Jupiter in the 5th. house= karakabhavanasya.
With moon. Is moon the badhak lord? Even if the badhak lord is not important, the karakabhava nasya remains to act.

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Post by Rohiniranjan » Sun Dec 01, 2013 1:59 pm

RishiRahul wrote:
Brahma Mihira wrote:
Rohiniranjan wrote:
Brahma Mihira wrote:
Rohiniranjan wrote:
Brahma Mihira wrote:I also found out in many charts exchanged house lords, most of the time don't give positive results as preached, one reason is lord linking with 6/8/12 or 3/11.  Should not consider as parivarthana yoga always gives positive.


As to parivartana or for that matter any specific rider or tenet in my experience, there is no *always*. For the simple reason that astrology works in a multi-factorial manner. Each parivartan or any other yoga, even mahapurusha yoga needs to be sifted and weighed and then interpreted.

I hope this addresses Rishi Rahul's cryptic *?* too ;-)

Love and Light,

Rohiniranjan


Yes, I'm also meaning words sifted and weighed on chart analyzing...
This time, I did not get what you actually meant...:-(
Maybe it is Rishi's turn to elaborate and illuminate me, what you were trying to say! You probably sent your response in a hurry :smt010

RR


Not in hurry, I'm meaning when 5th house has powerful planets then as we hoped positive effects, it don't get good results. Such as : 5th house become Meena rashi and then Jupiter and Moon in there on female chart, she don't get babies or she may occur problem with love life. Sometime Jupiter can link with 6th house via nakarashta or it was 22nd planet.

:smt017
If the 5th. becomes Meena rasi, then lagna should be vrishchika. Right.

So we have the natural putrakarak Jupiter in the 5th. house= karakabhavanasya.
With moon. Is moon the badhak lord? Even if the badhak lord is not important, the karakabhava nasya remains to act.

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Post by Rohiniranjan » Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:27 pm

Rohiniranjan wrote:
RishiRahul wrote:
Brahma Mihira wrote:
Rohiniranjan wrote:
Brahma Mihira wrote:
Rohiniranjan wrote:
Brahma Mihira wrote:I also found out in many charts exchanged house lords, most of the time don't give positive results as preached, one reason is lord linking with 6/8/12 or 3/11.  Should not consider as parivarthana yoga always gives positive.


As to parivartana or for that matter any specific rider or tenet in my experience, there is no *always*. For the simple reason that astrology works in a multi-factorial manner. Each parivartan or any other yoga, even mahapurusha yoga needs to be sifted and weighed and then interpreted.

I hope this addresses Rishi Rahul's cryptic *?* too ;-)

Love and Light,

Rohiniranjan


Yes, I'm also meaning words sifted and weighed on chart analyzing...
This time, I did not get what you actually meant...:-(
Maybe it is Rishi's turn to elaborate and illuminate me, what you were trying to say! You probably sent your response in a hurry :smt010

RR


Not in hurry, I'm meaning when 5th house has powerful planets then as we hoped positive effects, it don't get good results. Such as : 5th house become Meena rashi and then Jupiter and Moon in there on female chart, she don't get babies or she may occur problem with love life. Sometime Jupiter can link with 6th house via nakarashta or it was 22nd planet.

:smt017
If the 5th. becomes Meena rasi, then lagna should be vrishchika. Right.

So we have the natural putrakarak Jupiter in the 5th. house= karakabhavanasya.
With moon. Is moon the badhak lord? Even if the badhak lord is not important, the karakabhava nasya remains to act.

RishiRahul
Pretty soon I will begin to be known as 'broken-record' guy :-)
One robin does not announce the spring!
Any discussion done with piece-meal data (bits and pieces of a chart) with one-liner comments are great appetizers, but can those make a complete meal? Only the chinese have mastered that! In their restaurants, it is called  "dim-sum"! The entire meal composes of essentially appetizers but YUMMM...!  :smt020   Biltu might be able to teach me how to get the emoticon for saying <SLURRRP>!

Taking this a bit further:

Out of over 25000 A or AA quality charts
940 had children related problem areas (no children, identified infertility, late parenthood , or kids with addictions, diseases or other problems.
Of these 6 had moon in meena in fifth (0.024%)
235 had jupiter in 6, 8 or 12 houses (25%)
ONLY 1 had Jup in 6, 8, 12 AND moon in meena and fifth (0.106%)


Looked another way,
Out of same 25k+ dataset
6374 charts had jupiter in 6, 8 or 12 (25.2%)
247 had moon in meena in fifth (0.98%)
57 had Moon in meena AND Jupiter in 6,8 or 12 (0.22%)

The dataset therefore was not poor in either moon in meena in 5th samples or jupiter in 6, 8, 12 samples etc

The *afflicted* fifth house matters subset and larger SAMPLE POPULATION had same percentage of jupiter in 6, 8 or 12

SAMPLE POPULATION had higher percentages of these factors than the subgroup with identified fifth house issues (problems).

Sorry gang! Winter is still here, Spring is months away! <SIGH>

Sorry for being a party pooper! :-(


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