WHY?

[Rohiniranjan]

CRS ji asked:
**I feel "Lagna" is where Earth is "calibrated" to be. If you feel it is not, can you please throw some light on what else could be or why is it missing?**

You are braver than me, CRS ji! Calibrated might be too strong and definitive-sounding a term to use! Given that the machine (astrology) has a bee-line (makkhi as called in hindi), or simply 'sight' or 'cross-hairs' (of cameras, telescopes, guns and other aiming equipments) that is at best wobbly! Consequentially, of questionable accuracy overall?

What little I have managed to gather on the subject, the planets (including earth!) have been red-herrings of sorts! Whether the terms geocentric or heliocentric get used, or as H.N. Tripathi dada used, "rahu-centric" for his fairly uncanny earthquake predictions (a brilliant chemist and a gourmand of incredible prowess!). For such descriptions give a (false) sense that the exploration is about these planets etc and that they are of primary importance! When the truth probably is that NONE of these really are about astronomy! We often get *entrapped* by that line of thinking and imagine astronomy and astronomical being the main driver!

So, the popular earth-centric (surface or core) charts are not about the planets or earth but simply using them as a new alphabet to describe the earthly sojourn of the fragment of soul trapped in the reality of incarnation!

That said, as answers poured forth and some usual mental gymnastics as well, earth (my question was about where earth in the chart and not nativity etc!), strictly speaking in the chart we use is possibly neither lagna, nor the first house Earth is like an invisible NULL point in the chart! For simple reckoning, it can be placed in the house that is opposite to where the astrological sun gets placed! The unstated, invisible placement (of earth) is, after all, where we view the sun against the zodiac and place it! It is actually rather simple if we think about it, because THAT is what makes the astrological sun go around the zodiac in 12 months

Love, Light, Simplicity!

Rohiniranjan

[Vinay Jha]

Modern scientific definition of a planet is based on regular revolution around the Sun and having a mass more than a certain level. This critical mass excluded Asteroids, but now even Pluto is under attack due to two reasons : it has comparatively low mass and it sometimes trespasses over the orbit of its neighbouring planet.

In astrology, a Graha is not defined on such premises. Graha is that heavenly entity which  APPARENTLY moves round the Earth and influences the fortunes of living creatures directly as well as indirectly by regulating the environs in such a way as to impart the results of past karmas ; therefore, Grahas are Deities which preside over the Fate of a living creature as Judges.

In Astrology, Earth is the cradle and Mother of Life, and therefore She is the Centre of Cosmos, round which entire Cosmos revolves and for which the entire Cosmos exists. In astrology, it does not matter what appears in a Heliocentric model.

VJ

[RishiRahul]

Modern scientific definition of a planet is based on regular revolution around the Sun and having a mass more than a certain level. This critical mass excluded Asteroids, but now even Pluto is under attack due to two reasons : it has comparatively low mass and it sometimes trespasses over the orbit of its neighbouring planet.

In astrology, a Graha is not defined on such premises. Graha is that heavenly entity which  APPARENTLY moves round the Earth and influences the fortunes of living creatures directly as well as indirectly by regulating the environs in such a way as to impart the results of past karmas ; therefore, Grahas are Deities which preside over the Fate of a living creature as Judges.

In Astrology, Earth is the cradle and Mother of Life, and therefore She is the Centre of Cosmos, round which entire Cosmos revolves and for which the entire Cosmos exists. In astrology, it does not matter what appears in a Heliocentric model.

VJ

Dear Vinay ji,

So very well explained!

Rishi

[Rohiniranjan]

WHY is planet earth missing from astrology?

OR IS IT...?

Love and Light,

Rohiniranjan

It is remarkable how a modern thread evolves (or meanders? Or made to...??) and captures the fragility of lines of thinking and incomprehension!

Remarkable, yet disturbing! If the same kind (or worse) of disarray plagues all important arrays of communication! <LOL>

Many simply dismiss with a pat on the head the increasingly labelled autistics, but concrete labels (arcane) and a dictatorial ban on thinking (because it is outside the syllabus!) represents the modern plague on some schools that teach the language that addresses (or was meant to?) UNCERTAINTY! &nbsp;:smt010

Rohiniranjan

[biltu]

I think ascendant is the earth in Astrology.

[Rohiniranjan]

I think ascendant is the earth in Astrology.

Thanks for your input but the survey/poll, if that is all that it seemed, closed a couple of messages ago, Biltu. &nbsp;:smt004

[Rohiniranjan]

A brilliant young jyotish aficionado friend remarked a few years ago that the average Netizen (citizen or immigrant/occasional dipper in Cyber-Nation) has an attention span of about 20 sec sound bytes! So, around a minute or less in traditional "clock-time", at the most!

Even while searching for an emoticon to express my dismayed disbelief, I was thinking about what was said and in view of the fast changing visage of net-experience, I had to grudgingly agree that he had a valid point!

Discussions aside, this becomes more important for the 'zens whose soul (not sole!) interest in astro-forums is to get a quickie reading, remedials and painless removal of the wart on their existence, known as KARMA! In keeping with the fast-delivery culture prevailing these days, the terms McJyotish, McReadings, McRemedies (in keeping with the pioneer McDonald of gustatory fame) pop into ones mind! That comment aside, we are reminded of the basic tenet of Horary (Prashn) astrology: Clarity begins with the question posed! This is important since we all are average folks and are prey to the 20-sec byte rule, nominally proposed!