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Re: Dimensions...!

Post by Votive » Thu May 28, 2015 12:38 pm

Rohiniranjan wrote:
Votive wrote:...

Philosophically Kant and later Bergson spoke of the Space, Time and the experential individual, as against the  christian theologists. Extending the thought further, we may consider that the warmth of the Sun and the (astro) logic that the zodiac should follow Leo , the Fifth should gain considerable significance.

Remember the old dialogue spoken by Amitabh Bachchan, "line wahin se shuru hoti hai jahn hum khade hai"
Sorry, I missed seeing this one earlier. Nothing personal.

Amitabh's dialogue is in keeping with the sun, just as is his name! :-)

{{Maybe not in absolute sense but relatively-speaking as per second dimension  :smt002
 


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Post by Votive » Thu May 28, 2015 12:43 pm

Rohiniranjan wrote:
Votive wrote:Movement, the flow, the Maya of all activity. Indeed!
Thankyou for the churning.
Fifth receiving the energy from the 9th and 3rd, being the BB of both is the esoteric karmic ledger bottom-line, here past good deeds (fructified in 9th as bhagya-fortune) when balanced with good efforts (III) bringing movement (progress in a karmic sense) of the Self (Atm) with that important house that is an angle (kona) and trine (trikon) simultaneously.

The formation comprising {II => III => V => IX => V} is of great interest.

Another formation {XII => XI => IX => V => IX} is intriguing as well.

And the smaller circuits. The plot thickens...!  :smt004
The symmetry is impressive. The flow from the brighter half to the darker half of the Zodiac has reciprocity.

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Post by Rohiniranjan » Thu May 28, 2015 3:51 pm

Votive wrote:
Rohiniranjan wrote:
Votive wrote:Movement, the flow, the Maya of all activity. Indeed!
Thankyou for the churning.
Fifth receiving the energy from the 9th and 3rd, being the BB of both is the esoteric karmic ledger bottom-line, here past good deeds (fructified in 9th as bhagya-fortune) when balanced with good efforts (III) bringing movement (progress in a karmic sense) of the Self (Atm) with that important house that is an angle (kona) and trine (trikon) simultaneously.

The formation comprising {II => III => V => IX => V} is of great interest.

Another formation {XII => XI => IX => V => IX} is intriguing as well.

And the smaller circuits. The plot thickens...!  :smt004
The symmetry is impressive. The flow from the brighter half to the darker half of the Zodiac has reciprocity.
Also  :smt017 is he fact that the BB house is always Odd#/Masculine/Yang. Yang/Yang in the case of a Yang sign rising; Yin/Yang when the ascendant is Yin...!  :smt004
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Post by Votive » Fri May 29, 2015 11:23 am

Rohiniranjan wrote:
Votive wrote:
Rohiniranjan wrote:
Votive wrote:Movement, the flow, the Maya of all activity. Indeed!
Thankyou for the churning.
Fifth receiving the energy from the 9th and 3rd, being the BB of both is the esoteric karmic ledger bottom-line, here past good deeds (fructified in 9th as bhagya-fortune) when balanced with good efforts (III) bringing movement (progress in a karmic sense) of the Self (Atm) with that important house that is an angle (kona) and trine (trikon) simultaneously.

The formation comprising {II => III => V => IX => V} is of great interest.

Another formation {XII => XI => IX => V => IX} is intriguing as well.

And the smaller circuits. The plot thickens...!  :smt004
The symmetry is impressive. The flow from the brighter half to the darker half of the Zodiac has reciprocity.
Also  :smt017 is he fact that the BB house is always Odd#/Masculine/Yang. Yang/Yang in the case of a Yang sign rising; Yin/Yang when the ascendant is Yin...!  :smt004
How is it Yin/Yang?? The bhava does not change and the rashis do become yin when the ascendant is yin?

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Post by Rohiniranjan » Fri May 29, 2015 1:22 pm

Votive wrote:
Rohiniranjan wrote:
Votive wrote:
Rohiniranjan wrote:
Votive wrote:Movement, the flow, the Maya of all activity. Indeed!
Thankyou for the churning.
Fifth receiving the energy from the 9th and 3rd, being the BB of both is the esoteric karmic ledger bottom-line, here past good deeds (fructified in 9th as bhagya-fortune) when balanced with good efforts (III) bringing movement (progress in a karmic sense) of the Self (Atm) with that important house that is an angle (kona) and trine (trikon) simultaneously.

The formation comprising {II => III => V => IX => V} is of great interest.

Another formation {XII => XI => IX => V => IX} is intriguing as well.

And the smaller circuits. The plot thickens...!  :smt004
The symmetry is impressive. The flow from the brighter half to the darker half of the Zodiac has reciprocity.
Also  :smt017 is he fact that the BB house is always Odd#/Masculine/Yang. Yang/Yang in the case of a Yang sign rising; Yin/Yang when the ascendant is Yin...!  :smt004
How is it Yin/Yang?? The bhava does not change and the rashis do become yin when the ascendant is yin?
BB house of any house is in a Yang bhava (1,3,5,7,9,11), though the sign in it could be yang or yin which is governed by ascendant.
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Post by Votive » Fri May 29, 2015 5:36 pm

Rohiniranjan wrote:
BB house of any house is in a Yang bhava (1,3,5,7,9,11), though the sign in it could be yang or yin which is governed by ascendant.
Indeed, the bhava remains Yang.
Though this churning only reinforces the strength of the Trine while trying to comprehend the charts.
Now to jump into the ocean...

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Post by Rohiniranjan » Fri May 29, 2015 8:08 pm

Votive wrote:
Rohiniranjan wrote:
BB house of any house is in a Yang bhava (1,3,5,7,9,11), though the sign in it could be yang or yin which is governed by ascendant.
Indeed, the bhava remains Yang.
Though this churning only reinforces the strength of the Trine while trying to comprehend the charts.
Now to jump into the ocean...
OK I see what was bothering/confusing you! I should have written Yang/Yin in keeping with the BB/sign order  :smt004

Sorry about 'lazy-writing'  :smt002

Votive is lit already through the beneficience of noon-sun (good karma) and cannot enter the ocean until "sunset" <LOL>

Take it from one who is yawning enthusiastically moments before sunrise!

Of course commercial-sceptical refrains might be wondering how these churnings might beneficially influence the sales?
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Post by Votive » Fri May 29, 2015 9:10 pm

Rohiniranjan wrote:
Votive wrote:
Rohiniranjan wrote:
BB house of any house is in a Yang bhava (1,3,5,7,9,11), though the sign in it could be yang or yin which is governed by ascendant.
Indeed, the bhava remains Yang.
Though this churning only reinforces the strength of the Trine while trying to comprehend the charts.
Now to jump into the ocean...
OK I see what was bothering/confusing you! I should have written Yang/Yin in keeping with the BB/sign order  :smt004

Sorry about 'lazy-writing'  :smt002

Votive is lit already through the beneficience of noon-sun (good karma) and cannot enter the ocean until "sunset" <LOL>

Take it from one who is yawning enthusiastically moments before sunrise!

Of course commercial-sceptical refrains might be wondering how these churnings might beneficially influence the sales?
Well my sunrise is similar to yours these days, just an hour off!

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Post by Rohiniranjan » Fri May 29, 2015 9:14 pm

I meant the soular journey, not the solar journey!

But trinal bhavat-bhavam is a joyous learning experience too. I am enjoying the same blessings as well ...
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Post by Votive » Fri May 29, 2015 10:38 pm

She directs the soular journey !

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Post by Rohiniranjan » Sat May 30, 2015 1:42 am

She (The mystical entity that human belief systems have named God) has bestowed upon us all that is necessary for solving the zig-saw puzzle of salvation and presumably endless TIME, possible approaches etc. Helpers and Guides and Help-Notes (Soul-Wiki?) too exist galore, a mere proverbial *click* away. Unfortunately, most folks keep running away from those under the excuse of finding a better guide, better angel, better approach and waste time and effort in that process. I am sure you must have seen a lot of that up-close too over the decades of your dealing with human beings: individuals as well as groups of those...?

As many bridges outside, as exist within, but bridges take no one anywhere; walking does! :-)
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Post by Votive » Fri Jun 05, 2015 2:11 pm

Rohiniranjan wrote:She (The mystical entity that human belief systems have named God) has bestowed upon us all that is necessary for solving the zig-saw puzzle of salvation and presumably endless TIME, possible approaches etc. Helpers and Guides and Help-Notes (Soul-Wiki?) too exist galore, a mere proverbial *click* away. Unfortunately, most folks keep running away from those under the excuse of finding a better guide, better angel, better approach and waste time and effort in that process. I am sure you must have seen a lot of that up-close too over the decades of your dealing with human beings: individuals as well as groups of those...?

As many bridges outside, as exist within, but bridges take no one anywhere; walking does! :-)
Probably, Ranjanda, most of us do not have the clarity to comprehend the beacons on the path and hope that there is someone who will hold our hand and walk with us. I suppose that is why we like to call Her Mother, for it is Ma who teaches us how to walk and it is She again who enjoys us walking alone and soaring warily keeping and eye to protect if needed.

But yes, despite the comfort of hoping that She will hold our hand, one has to walk alone for that is how nature is....

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Post by Rohiniranjan » Fri Jun 05, 2015 3:01 pm

Votive wrote:
Rohiniranjan wrote:She (The mystical entity that human belief systems have named God) has bestowed upon us all that is necessary for solving the zig-saw puzzle of salvation and presumably endless TIME, possible approaches etc. Helpers and Guides and Help-Notes (Soul-Wiki?) too exist galore, a mere proverbial *click* away. Unfortunately, most folks keep running away from those under the excuse of finding a better guide, better angel, better approach and waste time and effort in that process. I am sure you must have seen a lot of that up-close too over the decades of your dealing with human beings: individuals as well as groups of those...?

As many bridges outside, as exist within, but bridges take no one anywhere; walking does! :-)
Probably, Ranjanda, most of us do not have the clarity to comprehend the beacons on the path and hope that there is someone who will hold our hand and walk with us. I suppose that is why we like to call Her Mother, for it is Ma who teaches us how to walk and it is She again who enjoys us walking alone and soaring warily keeping and eye to protect if needed.

But yes, despite the comfort of hoping that She will hold our hand, one has to walk alone for that is how nature is....

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Although in the jyotish framework and context, it is the slow (manda), lame, Saturn (Shanaishchar) and not the fastly moving moon (Ma) that we (infants) should hold the finger of, for he is often within our reach and generally around and available! Even when it is new-moon (= no moon!). &nbsp;:smt004
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Post by Votive » Sat Jun 06, 2015 12:48 pm

Rohiniranjan wrote: Although in the jyotish framework and context, it is the slow (manda), lame, Saturn (Shanaishchar) and not the fastly moving moon (Ma) that we (infants) should hold the finger of, for he is often within our reach and generally around and available! Even when it is new-moon (= no moon!).  :smt004

Saturn is Niyama; Saturn is order; Saturn is routine and discipline; Saturn is symbolically ( not scientifically) the 'gravity' if we consider it in the realms of Physics and Cosmology.

No wonder, Saturn can be the finger to hold to when a toddler or the lathi/stick to hold when one is older and the knees (Makara) and the calves (Kumbha) are no longer ready to support.

And in the earlier context , Saturn is the natural Eleventh Lord, a choice, if any , to create our own chances and consequences!

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Post by Rohiniranjan » Sat Jun 06, 2015 1:33 pm

Votive wrote:
Rohiniranjan wrote: Although in the jyotish framework and context, it is the slow (manda), lame, Saturn (Shanaishchar) and not the fastly moving moon (Ma) that we (infants) should hold the finger of, for he is often within our reach and generally around and available! Even when it is new-moon (= no moon!).  :smt004

Saturn is Niyama; Saturn is order; Saturn is routine and discipline; Saturn is symbolically ( not scientifically) the 'gravity' if we consider it in the realms of Physics and Cosmology.

No wonder, Saturn can be the finger to hold to when a toddler or the lathi/stick to hold when one is older and the knees (Makara) and the calves (Kumbha) are no longer ready to support.

And in the earlier context , Saturn is the natural Eleventh Lord, a choice, if any , to create our own chances and consequences!

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The eight astro-markers line up in each chart as life-forms performing a role in the Maya of Life(time). The drama changes rom one bead to another. As the mala (rosary) slips through the fingers of Kaal (time), the markers rearrange to perform their roles. This is not a static theme but one that changes from one maya to another.

As *wi$e* ones (?!) 'pointificate' ;-) chela forgets and like a kitten his attention flits from one dimension to another. With time, the kitten grows up and learns to not be driven by curiosity! Rather than pouncing on the object of curiosity, the *teenager* pounces on curiosity itself and then simply knows what meditation is really all about!

The state and not the object is paramount...!?!!
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