pranavg wrote:Hi,RishiRahul wrote:I have already given my view regarding remedial (refer my mention of Lakshmisthanas in this thread).pranavg wrote:All I am saying is I don't know how major a factor they are.RishiRahul wrote:pranavg wrote:RishiRahul wrote:pranavg wrote:RishiRahul wrote:pranavg wrote:A nice read indeed...
But I was expecting some discussions about gemstones to come up during the course which was not to be.
Also, speaking of Karma, even I believe the Law of Karma to be an irrefutable and an ultimate law as there are many questions about life that remain unanswered otherwise.
Hello,
Gemstones have got a lot of recognition as remedials! Even in daily life.
For gemini sun sign it is mercury. But since lagna is so and so it is X.
Since born on the 6th. it is Y. Since life path is 7 then it is A.
Since vimshottari dasa is so, then A.
At best choose the common=Y maybe.
I can only state a belief on this, just as Karma is.
But which method of choosing gemstone or even karma is best?
Do share your (1)thoughts and (2)Experience
RishiRahul
Hi RishiRahul ji,
Although lagna lord / rashi lord may play a role in deciding gemstones, I understand that an astrologer suggests a gem to a native based on the native's horoscope. I believe importance is also given to the functional nature of the planet. For a Sagitarrius ascendant (D-1), may be Manik be recommended as Sun is a functional benefic.
About recommending it based on Vimshottari dasha, I believe, it would be for a temporary period and that too after carefully considering both the positives and negatives indicated by the dasha lord. Although I do not have much experience about it, this is what makes sense to me.
Stating gemstone remedy just as a belief may be like undermining the science behind it. If an astrologer suggests something, it will be based on his / her knowledge and experience; not just a belief. It would rather be in the interest of the native that the astrologer does not suggest anything as I have learnt that the gemstones can have negative influence if wrongly chosen and no one would want to spend a fortune to attract negativity
So, recommendation based on belief surely would not be ethical, right?
That is why we novice learners reach to to you to gain some insight.
My question is, if functional benefic is the key factor (if there is something else please enlighten) and different varga charts have different functional benefics, how do we recommend a gemstone?
For marriage, if we are considering functional benefics in D-9 (correct me if I am wrong), they may or may not be appropriate in the context of other varga charts including D-1. Then, on what basis should the gemstone be recommended, if at all?
pranavg,
Do we also not see many wearing the same astrological gemstones for ornamental purposes? Particularly by the rich or very rich?....And their lives are not more disturbed than others.. or disturbed as others similarly?
Which possibly means or goes to establish that gemstone redials are not such a major factor as thought by many!
Gemstones for Lakshmithanas are best; and there are also other facors as mentioned.
K.P. way is different entirely.
Best to strike a balance with them adding experience & maturity to the choice.
RishiRahul
Hi,
I agree that gemstone remedials may possibly not be that major factor (but don't agree that they are not a factor), but speaking about those using it as an ornament, there is little that we can pinpoint at which clearly says their life is disturbed or otherwise. Basically, "being disturbed" is a relative thing.
A millionaire may possibly ignore (or may not even notice) if he loses his wallet containing a 1000 bucks but a pauper may be grossly "disturbed" even if he loses 100 bucks. So, getting disturbed is a relative term and the rich may also be getting the pinch of using a wrong gem as an ornament but don't realize it or may I say don't care... of course unless the damage is massive... may be health related or even life.
Again, as per my belief (and little that I have learnt yet), a wrongly chosen gemstone is disastrous irrespective of one's status in society. How disastrous it is, is the question... which decides how quickly the native realizes it...
Even if not a major factor, I hope, we (astrology readers) believe that it is a factor. For my question about varga charts, even if we temporarily speak of Lakshmistanas, every varga chart will have different ascendant (more or less), then how does one choose / recommend?
I have just begun gaining knowledge and lack both experience as well as maturity to understand the different angles and hence would like to know more from you all.
Thanks and regards,
Pranav
Please see the sentence in bold above; which is, that You don't agree that they are not a major factor.
Why?
Is your belief on this based on 'experience', or 'heresay', or 'others example or explanation', or something else?
RishiRahul
I believe they are a factor as I just mentioned even in my previous post.
It is a belief for me and I have chosen to set its default value as 1 until proven otherwise.
It is purely based on the scientific explanations that I have read which I could not deny outright.
I am positively trying to make sense out of it by application of our science of Astrology.
Thanks and regards,
Pranav
You chose not to mention if your belief on this based on 'experience', or 'heresay', or 'others example or explanation', or something else?
Okay how can the remedial belief be established/proved? or disproved?
I mean how would you like me to help?
RishiRahul
I referred your post mentioning Lakshmistanas, actually I had the related question right there in my preceding and succeeding post...
Different varga charts are likely to have different ascendants and consequently different functional benefics, how do we recommend a gemstone then?
For marriage, if we are considering functional benefics in D-9 (correct me if I am wrong), they may or may not be appropriate in the context of other varga charts including D-1. Then, on what basis should the gemstone be recommended, if at all?
You may also pitch in with other considerations (apart from Laksmisthanas) that you believe are significant so that I can explore them further.
And I did mention earlier that my belief is purely based on the explanations that I have read in books by renowned authors which I could not deny outright. I am too novice to have enough experience on this and the hearsay does not fit into my scheme of things.
Thanks and regards,
Pranav
I am mentioning my take below:
Gemstones for Lakshmithanas are best; and there are also other factors as mentioned. For D charts, similar method
K.P. way is different entirely.
Best to strike a balance with them adding experience & maturity to the choice.
RishiRahul