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Re: युगादि! (Starting of Yuga)

Post by RishiRahul » Fri Jun 08, 2018 1:45 pm

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Rishi,

Since a few decades predictive prowess has become the ideal and sole purpose for astrology, and claims and counter-claims and much of the rife and rattle seen globally on the stage of divination? I shall not name any names, but you know who they have been...?

For predictions to come true, flawlessly, one has to view the experiential reality as driven solely by karma (past lifetimes) which creates destiny? Incontrovertible perhaps??

Yet, while the rare few who had been or claimed to be so perfect predictors had been emphasising on their yogic and spiritual practices? These latter associations naturally bring in the confounding factor of intuition, greater and Quantal-KNOWING, which can be almost medium-istical...?

We, who had been here, since the past incarnations of Mystic-Board, going back more than a decade have seen all that and some of THOSE? Have we not??

Like me, you have seen more than one lifetime of this board? Each lifetime of a board on internet or services prior to Internet, represent lifetimes - in experiential sense! Of course, one has to come to terms with the biological definition of a LIFE-TIME? Is it simply the span between a biological birth, maturation, ceremonial death? Or simply experiential births and deaths that happen many times, in each/some/many/most/ALL life-forms -- certainly true for many human beings?

Experiential, of course, for I never had the time, nor resources to turn the quest into that OTHER channel, in so far as astrology (Indian) was concerned...

Dada,

If we take the lifetime as one birth, the Vimshottari dasa of the AK affecting the self as I mentioned about is sinister.
Even if a lifetime is taken as many births, it can be said that the sinister effect is still imminent in this birth.

Is it not?

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Re: युगादि! (Starting of Yuga)

Post by Rohiniranjan » Sat Jun 09, 2018 12:27 am

RishiRahul wrote:
Fri Jun 08, 2018 1:45 pm
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Dada,

If we take the lifetime as one birth, the Vimshottari dasa of the AK affecting the self as I mentioned about is sinister.
Even if a lifetime is taken as many births, it can be said that the sinister effect is still imminent in this birth.

Is it not?

Rishi
I was thinking of internet forums/for a and of what Indian scriptures describe as dwijas or twice-born. The western counterpart of that would be the intriguing phenomenon of "walk-ins" as described in literature, especially the Lobsang Rampa series which may or may not be documentary but docu-fantasy as some critics insist.

Now leaving aside the electronic cyber-entities of forums etc, in the human instances, should one continue to use the birth epoch as determining the atmakaraka for life or would the atmakaraka and rest of the horoscope change during the second-birth within the lifetime...? :smt017
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Re: युगादि! (Starting of Yuga)

Post by RishiRahul » Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:57 pm

Rohiniranjan wrote:
Sat Jun 09, 2018 12:27 am
RishiRahul wrote:
Fri Jun 08, 2018 1:45 pm
...

Dada,

If we take the lifetime as one birth, the Vimshottari dasa of the AK affecting the self as I mentioned about is sinister.
Even if a lifetime is taken as many births, it can be said that the sinister effect is still imminent in this birth.

Is it not?

Rishi
I was thinking of internet forums/for a and of what Indian scriptures describe as dwijas or twice-born. The western counterpart of that would be the intriguing phenomenon of "walk-ins" as described in literature, especially the Lobsang Rampa series which may or may not be documentary but docu-fantasy as some critics insist.

Now leaving aside the electronic cyber-entities of forums etc, in the human instances, should one continue to use the birth epoch as determining the atmakaraka for life or would the atmakaraka and rest of the horoscope change during the second-birth within the lifetime...? :smt017

Dada,

May be use Sun as the constant/natural attmakarak for all lengths of life.
And the highest degree method, prevalent, for atmakarak for present life.

But trying to compare between the 2 would be theoretical & formidable task as we have so many lives having so many atmakaraks; but yes, some answer for this life could be gauged.

And yes, this is interesting!!

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Re: युगादि! (Starting of Yuga)

Post by Rohiniranjan » Mon Jun 11, 2018 4:14 pm

RishiRahul wrote:
Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:57 pm
...
May be use Sun as the constant/natural attmakarak for all lengths of life.
And the highest degree method, prevalent, for atmakarak for present life.

But trying to compare between the 2 would be theoretical & formidable task as we have so many lives having so many atmakaraks; but yes, some answer for this life could be gauged.

And yes, this is interesting!!

Rishi
Rishi,
As soon as we begin talking/thinking about lifetimes, we are automatically in theoretical, speculative, anecdotal domain <LOL>
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Re: युगादि! (Starting of Yuga)

Post by RishiRahul » Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:09 pm

Rohiniranjan wrote:
Mon Jun 11, 2018 4:14 pm
RishiRahul wrote:
Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:57 pm
...
May be use Sun as the constant/natural attmakarak for all lengths of life.
And the highest degree method, prevalent, for atmakarak for present life.

But trying to compare between the 2 would be theoretical & formidable task as we have so many lives having so many atmakaraks; but yes, some answer for this life could be gauged.

And yes, this is interesting!!

Rishi
Rishi,
As soon as we begin talking/thinking about lifetimes, we are automatically in theoretical, speculative, anecdotal domain <LOL>
Dada,

I guess you are correct on that.

But do the answers help us or just a quest for existence of lifetime.
If its the quest for lifetime, how would that help us.

Let us practise that on a supposed chart and see.

Interesting,

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Re: युगादि! (Starting of Yuga)

Post by Rohiniranjan » Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:27 am

RishiRahul wrote:
Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:09 pm
Rohiniranjan wrote:
Mon Jun 11, 2018 4:14 pm
RishiRahul wrote:
Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:57 pm
...
May be use Sun as the constant/natural attmakarak for all lengths of life.
And the highest degree method, prevalent, for atmakarak for present life.

But trying to compare between the 2 would be theoretical & formidable task as we have so many lives having so many atmakaraks; but yes, some answer for this life could be gauged.

And yes, this is interesting!!

Rishi
Rishi,
As soon as we begin talking/thinking about lifetimes, we are automatically in theoretical, speculative, anecdotal domain <LOL>
Dada,

I guess you are correct on that.

But do the answers help us or just a quest for existence of lifetime.
If its the quest for lifetime, how would that help us.

Let us practise that on a supposed chart and see.

Interesting,

RishiRahul
The hope is that it might provide some sense into the non-sense of randomness ...
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Re: युगादि! (Starting of Yuga)

Post by RishiRahul » Tue Jun 19, 2018 4:49 pm

spirit seeker,

I have split your post to the vedic astrology reading forum, and we can respond there.....

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Re: युगादि! (Starting of Yuga)

Post by RishiRahul » Tue Jun 19, 2018 4:50 pm

Rohiniranjan wrote:
Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:27 am
RishiRahul wrote:
Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:09 pm
Rohiniranjan wrote:
Mon Jun 11, 2018 4:14 pm


Rishi,
As soon as we begin talking/thinking about lifetimes, we are automatically in theoretical, speculative, anecdotal domain <LOL>
Dada,

I guess you are correct on that.

But do the answers help us or just a quest for existence of lifetime.
If its the quest for lifetime, how would that help us.

Let us practise that on a supposed chart and see.

Interesting,

RishiRahul
The hope is that it might provide some sense into the non-sense of randomness ...
Dear Dada,

Yes Got it. I was wondering to do an analysis on some chart, to start with.
Which one?

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Re: युगादि! (Starting of Yuga)

Post by Spirit Seeker » Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:16 pm

RishiRahul wrote:
Tue Jun 19, 2018 4:49 pm
spirit seeker,

I have split your post to the vedic astrology reading forum, and we can respond there.....

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