Part Two - The Minor Arcana - three's - 3

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Post by Erinys » Sat Sep 29, 2007 8:23 pm

3 Pentacles - recognition for jobs well done, others taking notice of efforts.
3 Swords - Heartbreak, grief, loss
3 Cups - Celebrating your bounty, happiness, friendships/partnerships
3 Wands - Waiting for your ship to come in.  The rewards of your work will soon be seen.

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Post by arianna » Fri Oct 26, 2007 5:46 pm

The three of pentacles shows a craftsman standing nestled in the mountains overlooking a lake. He is working on a beautiful piece - I think this is someone being recognised for the outstanding crafmanship - work of any kind

The three of swords - secrets - lies - a true broken heart

The three of cups is a celebration card - I think of a reunion, wedding, party

The three of Rods - Is a plan in motion - waiting for results or news of a venture or project
I wish that your dreams stay big and worries stay small

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Post by BLouise » Tue Nov 06, 2007 7:16 pm

The 3's to me represent a level of return on your efforts.

3 of cups represents a relationship has moved to the next level.
3 of Wands represents the initial accomplishments in a creative project.
3 of pentacles represents seeing success through efforts toward material gains such as starting a business, investments, efforts toward advancements in career, etc.
3 of swords represents a separation in a relationship, hard feeling and quarreling could be the result of the efforts in his situation.
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Re: Part Two - The Minor Arcana - three's - 3

Post by Sabra » Wed Nov 21, 2007 11:49 am

Gem wrote:Image Image Image Image

Three of Pentacles, one of the teamwork cards, working as a team?

Three of Swords, heartbreak, grief, torment of the heart, such a sad card I think, a very emotional one too. this is one card that always gets a reaction doing readings, the picture is really unmistakeable?

Three of cups friendship, exhuberance, partying :)

Three of Wands looking to the future? Leading others?

Very emotional cards, which one do you like the best?
Three of Pentacles - I view it as team work and working jointly toward a common goal.

Three of Cups - Platonic love, support, and friendship is what I see here.  My favorite of the 3's.

Three of Wands - Someone has had a revelation and with clarity of mind is leading others toward some goal.

Three of Swords - Heartache and betrayal.  Either hurting another or being hurt, probably through violation of trust.
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My RW Threes say...

Post by pirbid » Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:09 pm

3 of Cups: "A toast to friendship"
This card makes me feel there is a good social atmosphere. When doing a reading with the Celtic Cross, I love getting it in the eighth position.

3 of Swords: "My heart is broken"
This is one of the cards that need less explanation as it depicts deep hurt and grieving so well. Since it is a swords card, it makes me think of how it is usually our own minds where we get most of the pain from. No matter how bad things are, our mind seems to derive some sort of pleasure from making things seem even worse than they really are. And no matter how long we have grieved, the mind seems never to have enough of it, it never lets up, not for a minute. Only time allows us some respite from the continued pain after a big loss. So, the mind as a dangerous enemy, methinks :)

3 of pentacles: "I live for my projects"
I like this one best because they seem so absorbed in what they are building. Time has no meaning when we are letting our creativity flow, specially when we know it will have a practical use in the end for us and others. To me, it represents vocational work, that which is so hard to get nowadays (actually, even nonvocational is pretty hard to get  :smt011 ).

3 of Wands: "Should I or should I not?"
I know the 3 of wands is supposed to be more evolved than the two, but I always found this card more unsettling than the 2. He seems to be deciding wether to jump off the cliff to join the adventure on the ships below. Also, his present achievements do not seem to give him as much pleasure as in the 2 (in fact, no achievements are really depicted here). So, more ready for action because of having less to lose?


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Here the 3 of cups is even more joyful and carefree than in the RW: clearly having fun in a friendly atmosphere. Compare it with this other 3 of cups from the Ancestral Path. It shows the arthurian love triangle between King Arthur, Sir Lancelot and Lady Geneva. No one wants to hurt the others and there is love involved on all sides, but... someone is bound to end up with a big three of swords for an only companion. I wanted to include this possible meaning for the 3 of Cups because it has come up in one or two readings and this was the only obvious explanation for it in that situation (a love triangle in which the querent was involved): the image seemed to really pop up at us as the centerpiece in the layout. Anybody encounter this meaning at any time?
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Post by cedars » Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:30 am

Hi Chris
I find your cards very difficult to interpret. There are people who know nothing about the tarot and when you give them a spread of cards, they start reading the cards immediately (due to their great talent of course) but I find it hard that one would be able to do this with your deck. Unless one knew what Cups stood for, your three of Cups does not indicate nor show to me any social/emotional integration or celebration. Your three of Swords does in no way indicate heartbreak. I see a crown surrounded with clouds and the swords look like parsnips. I am sorry, I keep on saying 'your' cards, but if I were to give a reading with these cards, I would interpret a given situation rather differently than with any of the other decks that I have seen.

This is just an exchange of ideas, Chris, and please do not take it in any way as criticism. We work with the deck we feel most comfortable with.

Was this your very first deck that you bought? I see what Gem means when she commented above that this is a very difficult deck for beginners to learn from. What made you go to them? Interesting......

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Post by pirbid » Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:34 pm

Nice new tree, Cedars! :)

I don't know if Chris browses these pages anymore. Maybe she already finished last year's course. We are now on the brand new 2008 class and I believe there are four of us so far. I am not sure if there are still any of last year's around.

Anyway, trying to answer your question, someone said that, if you use a very different deck with very different meanings to the standard decks (meanings either you have invented or learned from the deck's booklet), then you will get different cards to get the same meaning across.

For example, if Chris's 3 of Swords doesn't mean heartbreak for her, but the reading needs a card that means heartbreak, then she will get a different card that has that meaning for her at the time. And that card will vary depending on the deck used, but you will still get the same global meaning for a specific reading.

That means that, if several of us do a reading for one single person (let's say Gem, for example), those of us using the RW will probably get some coincidences in our cards. Chris (or any of the others who are using different decks) will get very different cards, but the global interpretation will be similar. Probably different views of the same situation, or different aspects of Gem's life.

Have I been clear as mud?  :smt003 I understand that is because the cards come up depending on the question, the reader, the sitter, the deck and the specific positions used in a spread. That is why Gem tells us to first get the question, then choose the right spread for it and the right deck, if we are choosing from several. And trust that the cards know what we are about and come up so that our unconscious mind can make the right connections.

Well, at least that is what I understood last time this came up. Some one will step in for correction if I got it wrong.

Cheers!  :smt002
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Post by cedars » Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:48 pm

You make sense Pirbid. Thank you for your answer :)
Cheers.

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Post by Gem » Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:05 pm

I haven't heard from Chris for ages!  Will have to check they are ok.


Pirbid, brilliant answer! I couldnt have put it better myself :)


Cedars, the Celestial deck has very different pictures and includes astrological and mythical characters and meanings so can get very complicated for a beginner trying to compare to the RW. It does have 4 suits lol but thats about where the similarities end lol.

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Post by cedars » Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:26 pm

Thanks Gem. I gathered Chris's deck to be a rather complicated one.
I will know not to approach that one as my second deck.
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Post by Gem » Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:54 am

cedars I am very proud :)

and you all should be too :)

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Post by glenellen » Sat Jan 19, 2008 12:01 pm

3 of pentacles....a strange card for me not sure what to make of it, it somehow seems religious and encouraging someone to have a greater understanding of god

3 of cups.....family gathering, socialising, reminiscing enjoying every one's company

3 of wands...this is a man choosing his path wisely he is looking ahead and checking there are no obstacles in his path

3 of swords...this card hurts me, i feel sorrow and pain, heartache and cannot see any reconciliation here or maybe there is,  the swords have puncured the heart not broken it maybe it can be repaired

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Post by Shortyfrm » Sat Jan 19, 2008 7:30 pm

I definitely agree that the three of pentacles is a card of teamwork and undertakings.  Find that alot of times within my readings that usually are associated with someone being successful at whatever brought them to the cards if they are willing to change their mindset and work with someone in order to attain the success that they seek.  

The three of swords is a card of pure heartache and emotion.  Being consumed by matters of the heart that have been unsuccessful.  Almost an unhealthy consumption, but that is mainly because I yet to allow myself to feel this kind of pain, so I have trouble relating to this card, but can effectively convey a message to a client regarding its meaning and placement in his/her spread.

The three of cups is a time of joyous celebrating, the healing of self, of nuturing the soul.  

Now, I feel kind of odd posting in here, because I don't know where the mindset is....but my intrepretation on the cards when I read, comes from my intuitive abilities and the feelings that I get during the reading....sometimes definitions of these cards change for me considering supporting cards.

I hope I don't sound uneducated.  I have been wanting to post in the Tarot homework section for a while now, but just got the nerve to step out and do so.  Any cristism or suggestions of my intrepretation would be greatly appreciated.

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Post by Gem » Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:33 pm

Hi and welcome,

However I am afraid to post in this part of the forum you have to be signed up to the Learn Tarot Course and follow the lessons in order. If we allow people to jump in and out it just confuses the other students and makes the lessons disjointed as they build on one another. I hope you understand.

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Post by Shortyfrm » Sun Jan 20, 2008 6:37 pm

OHHHHH...I am so sorry for the confusion....thanks for pointing me in the right direction.  Sorry for disturbing class, reallly I am.

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