HOW TO REDUCE WEIGHT NATURALLY

Jayashree Ravi · Post by **Jayashree Ravi** » Thu Sep 17, 2015 10:01 pm

Hi all,

I am currently consuming 2 tsp of Horse Gram (Hindi: Kulthi) mixed in plain water each day. I read all over the place about the effectiveness of Horse Gram in weight loss. Perhaps this can be kept in mind for those in the process...

Post by **eye_of_tiger** » Thu Sep 17, 2015 11:40 pm

Jayashree,

This low-profile, humble legume took its English name from its use as a staple food for horses and cattle.

How long have you been regularly eating horse gram, and have you noticed any significant weight loss since then which you believe is directly related to you including it in your diet?

"Horse Gram: 12 Health Benefits and Recipes"

http://www.ishafoundation.org/blog/life ... orse-gram/

Jayashree Ravi · Post by **Jayashree Ravi** » Fri Sep 18, 2015 1:44 pm

EOT ji,

Actually I just now (past 3 days) started taking this horse gram powder... but I referred to many sites that claim on the effectiveness of using this food product for weight loss..

I used to take 'Phentermine' a controlled substance prescribed by a doctor for weight loss, combined with diet and exercise, Phentermine helped me lose weight fast - I lost 35 lbs last year! I'm hoping this Horse Gram mix to give similar results (by speeding up the metabolism) but I know not the results yet..

Besides, in one site I referred, some people claimed they noticed elevated body temperature and hair loss with using Horse Gram every single day. So I am just starting with 2 tsp for now... which may or may not be adequate to stimulate metabolism. I'm hoping for the best.

Hope it works for me, if it does I can save on a revisit to the doctors for Phentermine treatment as well as have a buddy for the lifetime to consume every day!

It so happens this Horse Gram is also rich in proteins by the way...

Rohiniranjan · Post by **Rohiniranjan** » Fri Sep 18, 2015 5:01 pm

Significant weight loss that can e sustained is way more complex, individualized and best carried about with the advice of specialists (baryatrics) rather than Dr. Google and well-intentioned cyber-consultants. Weight loss often requires not just physical but mental and spiritual components as well since it is about restoring balance!

Post by **eye_of_tiger** » Fri Sep 18, 2015 11:54 pm

I have found both with drugs prescribed by my doctor as well as with natural alternatives such as this one, that any benefits of taking it often quickly fade to nothing after approximately three days of using it as instructed.

This can get extremely frustrating and also expensive. When using natural therapies it is not at all unusual for the symptoms of the condition to unexpectedly get worse in the early stages, which can make the person give up too early and stop taking it, thinking that it is a sign that it does not work for them (when it actually is working).

I always try to ensure that the people to whom I give advice on matters of their health consult a qualified professional in addition to Dr Google and llistening to cyber consultants. Dr Google has come to my rescue on more than one occasion, at times when I needed to make a quick decision on my own or my wife's health, but professional medical advice in person was not readily available.

I have often been in the position of telling my doctor about recent advances in the treatment of my chronic illness from medical articles on the web, which he has not heard about himself. We use the material I have printed from the internet as part of our discussions in working cooperatively together to get better control over my symptoms.

So while I am also very concerned about people who use the web as a substitute for seeing their doctor, it can be extremely helpful and informative when used responsibly in combination with conventional medical treatment by a qualified medical practitioner.

We should not throw the internet baby out with the bathwater?

EoT  :smt005

Jayashree Ravi · Post by **Jayashree Ravi** » Sat Sep 19, 2015 12:00 pm

Rohiniranjan wrote:Significant weight loss that can e sustained is way more complex, individualized and best carried about with the advice of specialists (baryatrics) rather than Dr. Google and well-intentioned cyber-consultants. Weight loss often requires not just physical but mental and spiritual components as well since it is about restoring balance!

I don't know... when it comes to weight loss, there is really a wealth of info on the internet these days... with experience losing weight, many of the recommendations ring true...

Rohiniranjan · Post by **Rohiniranjan** » Sat Sep 19, 2015 4:34 pm

Jayashree Ravi wrote:
Rohiniranjan wrote:Significant weight loss that can e sustained is way more complex, individualized and best carried about with the advice of specialists (baryatrics) rather than Dr. Google and well-intentioned cyber-consultants. Weight loss often requires not just physical but mental and spiritual components as well since it is about restoring balance!
I don't know... when it comes to weight loss, there is really a wealth of info on the internet these days... with experience losing weight, many of the recommendations ring true...

There is a wealth of *information* on pretty much everything on internet, Jayashree! Not just weight loss or mysticism etc.!

Jayashree Ravi · Post by **Jayashree Ravi** » Sat Sep 19, 2015 8:10 pm

Rohiniranjan wrote:
Jayashree Ravi wrote:
Rohiniranjan wrote:Significant weight loss that can e sustained is way more complex, individualized and best carried about with the advice of specialists (baryatrics) rather than Dr. Google and well-intentioned cyber-consultants. Weight loss often requires not just physical but mental and spiritual components as well since it is about restoring balance!
I don't know... when it comes to weight loss, there is really a wealth of info on the internet these days... with experience losing weight, many of the recommendations ring true...
There is a wealth of *information* on pretty much everything on internet, Jayashree! Not just weight loss or mysticism etc.!

RRji,

What I am trying to say is that, obesity is a condition for which one can (and will) always try home remedies, unless he/she is fairly well to do to try a bariatric surgery. While one can find info on anything on the internet, one will not run to them alone (without need for a doctor) for more serious conditions such as many diseases. Whereas for weight loss, it can be advisable to try, and research around on the info available from the net because anyways, one is going to try just the home remedies - such as joining the gym, working out and watching the diet. Hence my emphasis on internet information for weight loss.

Jayashree Ravi · Post by **Jayashree Ravi** » Sat Sep 19, 2015 8:12 pm

Also candidates such as me, who are obese just by 40lbs do not qualify for bariatric surgery!

Rohiniranjan · Post by **Rohiniranjan** » Sat Sep 19, 2015 9:31 pm

Jayashree Ravi wrote:Also candidates such as me, who are obese just by 40lbs do not qualify for bariatric surgery!

I was merely expressing a personal opinion so please do not take it personally or as a personal advice to you!

Incidentally, bariatrics does not exclusively mean surgery, but starts with life style (diet etc) changes, but involves a sincere and serious commitment towards improving self-worth, body-image etc - things that can get in the way of keeping the weight off for longer periods of time, hopefully lifelong.

Ultimately it is about achieving a balance and not becoming a victim of imbalance...?

Rohiniranjan · Post by **Rohiniranjan** » Sun Sep 20, 2015 3:05 am

eye_of_tiger wrote:I have found both with drugs prescribed by my doctor as well as with natural alternatives such as this one, that any benefits of taking it often quickly fade to nothing after approximately three days of using it as instructed.

...

Yes, it is the well-known placebo effect.

*Marketers* love it, consumers (should) dread it!

Post by **eye_of_tiger** » Mon Sep 21, 2015 12:18 am

Bariactric surgery involves reducing the size of the stomach with a gastric band, or removal of a portion of the stomach. Or resecting and re-routing the small intestine into a small surgically constructed stomach like pouch (gastric bypass surgery).

Jayashree,

As a matter of interest have you actually been told that you are not eligible for having this surgical procedure at this point in time (but that you may later become eligible)?

I ask you this as according to my research eligibility for this usually only done as a last resort when all other methods have failed extreme form of surgery is not only worked out according to how much more weight you are carrying when compared to the average woman of your age. The presence of other medical conditions which have been linked to obesity are included in the assessment process.

Currently, bariatric surgery is only an option for adults with severe or morbid (life threatening) obesity. Body mass index (BMI), a measure of height in relation to weight, is used to define the levels of obesity. Clinically severe obesity is a BMI greater than 40 or a BMI greater than 35 with a serious health problem linked to obesity. Such health problems could be type 2 diabetes, heart disease, or severe sleep apnea (when breathing stops for short periods during sleep).

http://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-informa ... esity.aspx

If I had some minor problems with controlling my weight and had not been previously diagnosed with these linked illnesses, I would always try natural remedies and Dr Google first. For more serious and more persistent problems with controlling my weight, I would use a combination of conventional medical treatment and advice from a qualified doctor or dietician AND natural remedies. It is always important to let your medical practitioner know what natural remedies you are taking and how much, as these can sometimes interfere with the purpose of the specific pharmaceutical drugs which have been prescribed by your doctor. But when you are severely and life threateningly obese as well as having one or more of the silent killing medical conditions listed above, then bariactric surgery may be the only thing which has the potential to save your life.

BTW I agree wholeheartedly with Rohiniranjan that the placebo effect is often but not always the reason for a drug's beneficial effects quickly fading. In my case it is also important to recognise that many other known and unknown simple or complex factors could equally be contributing to this fading effect (multiple allergies, chemical sensitivities, chronic yeast infections, increased tolerance to that family of drugs, therefore requiring a higher dosage to get the same effect, the method of drug delivery being used, the time of the day it is taken......................etc)

EoT :smt102

Talia · Post by **Talia** » Mon Sep 21, 2015 10:20 am

Rohiniranjan wrote:
eye_of_tiger wrote:I have found both with drugs prescribed by my doctor as well as with natural alternatives such as this one, that any benefits of taking it often quickly fade to nothing after approximately three days of using it as instructed.

...
Yes, it is the well-known placebo effect.

*Marketers* love it, consumers (should) dread it!

Yes that is the placebo efffect we hope and expect the medicine to work at first. Not me if that happens I go back and get a different medicine that does work, you are

Talia · Post by **Talia** » Mon Sep 21, 2015 10:20 am

Jaya,

Are you vegetarian? Or have any other diet restrictions milk or anything?

Rohiniranjan · Post by **Rohiniranjan** » Mon Sep 21, 2015 3:43 pm

Talia wrote:
Rohiniranjan wrote:
eye_of_tiger wrote:I have found both with drugs prescribed by my doctor as well as with natural alternatives such as this one, that any benefits of taking it often quickly fade to nothing after approximately three days of using it as instructed.

...
Yes, it is the well-known placebo effect.

*Marketers* love it, consumers (should) dread it!
Yes that is the placebo efffect we hope and expect the medicine to work at first. Not me if that happens I go back and get a different medicine that does work, you are

Modern medicines (pharmaceuticals) are regulated by govts. and must go through clinical trials. Weeding out placebo effects is a big part and parcel of these as well as efficacy determination (risk-benefit ratio).

In comparison, nutraceuticals and other similar lotions and potions rely on impressions, anecdotes, etc and at times plain untruths. Unfortunately this buries the potentially effective ones amongst the haystack of info.

ON Internet ;-P

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